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== Extra Space ==
== Sources ==


*https://web.archive.org/web/20141207111224/https://news.microsoft.com/1999/11/12/microsoft-age-of-empires-ii-the-age-of-kings-crowned-best-selling-pc-game/
Is there any way to delete that extra space right after [[template:age of empires series]]? If it's a bug, report it to bugzilla.[[Special:Contributions/24.65.69.8|24.65.69.8]] ([[User talk:24.65.69.8|talk]]) 02:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
*https://web.archive.org/web/20030422012926/http://www.vud.de:80/presse/februar2000.php3


== 'Burning Oil' my left foot! ===
== Suggestions for edit ==
This is in the article: "Towers are equipped with the ability to fire arrows and drop burning oil on unfriendly units, and are often used in conjunction with the wall in defense mechanisms."


Hello,
there is no burning oil in the game. I'm going to edit it out. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.214.201.225|90.214.201.225]] ([[User talk:90.214.201.225|talk]]) 17:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Please do look at section [[Age of Empires II#Buildings]], where it says that
The Town Center can fire arrows at enemy units within range if villagers or archers are garrisoned while under attack.
It is not true that there is necessarily any "attack", whereas it simply fires when any unit enters the line of sight.
This only seems accurate to me. Please share your thought about it :)
[[User:Hands of the vision|Hands of the vision]] ([[User talk:Hands of the vision|talk]]) 14:31, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


Also, please review my edit int the [[Age of Empires II#Units and civilizations]], where I have changed "Seige Weaponry" to "Seige Weapons"
== Compatability problems and 'burning oil' ==
because that's the form it is referred to in the game.
The 'toxic grass' and the graphic issues with grass, trees and water is very common on most PCs, regardless of operating system. It sometimes occurs if you play on an older system or if the graphic drivers are not installed or outdated ones are installed. It can also occur if you are overclocking your CPU and the overclock is unstable. To fix this, all you need to do is press ALT-TAB on windows computers to switch back and forth then this problem will be solved.


[[User:Hands of the vision|Hands of the vision]] ([[User talk:Hands of the vision|talk]]) 15:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
That is incorrect information as this trick does not work consistently under Vista and not at all under Windows 7. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.209.186.241|76.209.186.241]] ([[User talk:76.209.186.241|talk]]) 21:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Merger proposal ==
Seems like someone is unable to use google but is very happy to deface wikipedia articles.
I propose to merge [[Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition]] into this article. Per the consesnsus [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 144#Efforts to split out ports/remakes/sequels from the main article|here]] and [[Talk:The Last of Us Remastered|here]], remasters generally shouldn't have its own article unless the changes are very significant (which is not the case here). [[User:OceanHok|OceanHok]] ([[User talk:OceanHok|talk]]) 12:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Let me google that for you: http://www.google.com/search?q=age+of+empires+toxic+grass <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.209.186.241|76.209.186.241]] ([[User talk:76.209.186.241|talk]]) 18:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Based on what's in the article and the cursory search for more info, it doesn't seem like there's a ton of separate information and distinct development/reception details that couldn't be summarized, so I'd be fine with a merge. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color: #cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color: #cc6600;">talk</span>]]</small></sup> 18:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' the changes from original are signficant enough to warrant its own article (I mean this game was released 2 decades after the original so this is not a [[Talk:The Last of Us Remastered]] situation either). The coverage garnered by this game also satifies [[WP:GNG]] as laid out in its [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition|AFD]] which was a resounding keep and that was even before the game was released. Regards [[User:Spy-cicle|<span style='color: 4019FF;'><b>&nbsp;Spy-cicle💥&nbsp;</b></span>]] [[User talk:Spy-cicle#top|<sup><span style='color: #1e1e1e;'><b>'''''Talk'''''?</b></span></sup>]] 17:08, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
*'''Neutral comment''' I posted this at the other remake article. I think the determinative factor would be whether there is significant coverage of the development of this remake, to show that it has a distinct story from the original. That or an expansion of the reception. Otherwise you could very easily just add the re-release and reception to the main article, as they're currently very short. [[User:Shooterwalker|Shooterwalker]] ([[User talk:Shooterwalker|talk]]) 05:29, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' as per Spy-Cicle. [[User:Mark49s|Mark49s]] ([[User talk:Mark49s|talk]]) 16:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
::*A development section doesn't exist right now. I am not seeing a very strong justification to have it as a standalone article when the parent article can accommodate all these information in a more coherant manner. [[User:OceanHok|OceanHok]] ([[User talk:OceanHok|talk]]) 18:59, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


:'''Oppose''' - unlike with the HD Edition, which was basically just porting the game over to Steam and updating the game to work on Windows 8/10, the Definitive Edition is actually a new game in itself. The changes made in the Definitive Edition (graphics, sounds, UI, main menu, new campaigns) are significant enough that the Definitive Edition should have its own article. [[Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition]] has its own separate article for the same reason [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen]] has its own separate article. It's an enhanced remake (with enough new features to distinguish itself from the original game) and not just a remaster.—[[User:Mythdon|<span style="color:green">Mythdon</span>]] ([[User talk:Mythdon|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mythdon|<span style="color:teal">contribs</span>]]) 19:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
As for the 'burning oil' from the towers, some towers if the units get too close to the tower for it to attack, you can research a technology (I think at the university building) that will allow the towers to attack units even if they are at the base of the tower by dumping hot black tar or oil over the units causing damage to them. [[Special:Contributions/169.241.64.5|169.241.64.5]] ([[User talk:169.241.64.5|talk]]) 14:37, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
*I have withdrawn the merge request for ''Definitive Edition''. While I still feel that the parent article can handle the information much better, it seems that there is a consensus to keep it. [[User:OceanHok|OceanHok]] ([[User talk:OceanHok|talk]]) 11:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Your right about the upgrade, called 'murder holes' and allows towers to shot arrows towards their bases. ([[User:Gloryify|Gloryify]] ([[User talk:Gloryify|talk]]) 09:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC))

== Idle Unit Button? ==

There is an Idle Unit button, but it is specifically for locating villagers. [[User:Twichybunny|Twichybunny]] ([[User talk:Twichybunny|talk]]) 22:00, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

No It can locate idle trade carts and trade cogs too! [[User:Gloryify|Gloryify]] ([[User talk:Gloryify|talk]]) 09:06, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

There is also an idle military unit command (comma key). [[Special:Contributions/85.165.59.105|85.165.59.105]] ([[User talk:85.165.59.105|talk]]) 23:42, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Release date ==

Can you add the release date, it's September 30 1999? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/78.134.136.190|78.134.136.190]] ([[User talk:78.134.136.190|talk]]) 10:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Done.[[Special:Contributions/12.199.45.138|12.199.45.138]] ([[User talk:12.199.45.138|talk]]) 15:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== AOE 2 Civilisations. ==

If I have one problem, there's no civilisations. There's no table showing the four types of civilisations at all so it's hard to know the kinds that are available when someone decides to play this game. I'll be happy if someone resolves my concern because there's a puzzle that seriously needs to be solved. Its not hard but at least it's not to dull or boring to read this article. [[User:Johnnyauau2000|Johnnyauau2000]] ([[User talk:Johnnyauau2000|talk]]) 14:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

:Civilisation lists/tables are not needed in wikipedia articles, see the [[WP:VGSCOPE]] guidelines. They are already adequately summed up in prose in the gameplay section. [[User:QueenCake|QueenCake]] ([[User talk:QueenCake|talk]]) 14:55, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

:In that case, will anyone do the same with AOE 2 Expansion Pack? The other page still has it. Sometimes, the rules will go as far as make the article as generic as possible. [[User:Johnnyauau2000|Johnnyauau2000]] ([[User talk:Johnnyauau2000|talk]]) 03:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::Feel free to do it yourself, the article pretty much needs a complete re-write to bring it up to scratch. [[User:QueenCake|QueenCake]] ([[User talk:QueenCake|talk]]) 21:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Should we at least make mention to the fact that there are four different types of civs? [[User:Gloryify|Gloryify]] ([[User talk:Gloryify|talk]]) 09:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

:I disagree. The Conquerors expansion lists the civilizations and links to them without further elucidation, and I think it is OK to list the names of the civs here. I do agree that they should not be expanded upon, other than links to the wikipedia articles of those civilizations themselves. This article mentions "the civilizations" several times within the article, but the User never gets a list of which civs they are? I will add them. // [[User:Mark Renier|Mark Renier]] ([[User talk:Mark Renier|talk]]) 06:26, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

== Campagin Summary ==

Should there be a summary of the storylines of the campagins. [[User:Gloryify|Gloryify]] ([[User talk:Gloryify|talk]]) 09:48, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Characters ==

Should there be a mention to the major campaign hero's and characters in a gaming and historical sense. e.g. Joan of Arc, William Wallace. [[User:Gloryify|Gloryify]] ([[User talk:Gloryify|talk]]) 09:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Compatibility Problems section, keep or not? Give opinions please. ==

http://www.google.com/search?q=age+of+empires+%22toxic+grass%22&hl=en&start=80&sa=N Google has 51 results when I check for Age of Empire and "toxic grass". The game was released before Vista existed(before XP was even out even), and [[Windows 7]] isn't even out yet! Is listing its problems for those two operating systems necessary? Don't most old games have trouble running on Vista, unless you select the option to run them in Windows XP mode? And why mention there is no patch from Microsoft yet? A game that was released 10 years ago, isn't going to get a patch, no one expecting that. Everyone please give your opinion. Should the section called Compatibility Problems be kept? [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>]]''' 19:10, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

:Defiantly not needed, as was noted the game is a decade old hence the problems are to be expected. The google results seem to be mainly forum posts from users asking about the problem, no results from any reliable source, my feeling is this is just a minor issue by the few users who still play the game. Delete [[User:QueenCake|QueenCake]] ([[User talk:QueenCake|talk]]) 20:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::Definitely needed - it's an issue with this game for these two operating systems.Otherwise please provide a link to a patch or a fix for the issue. Just because you cannot use google obviously (by using different search terms you easily get 1mm hits for the problem), this problem doesn't go away! SO STOP DEFACING THE ARTICLE OR PROVIDE A FIX FOR THIS ISSUE!!!!!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.209.186.241|76.209.186.241]] ([[User talk:76.209.186.241|talk]]) 20:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP -->

:::Just because its an issue doesn't mean it is [[WP:N|notable]] enough to be included on Wikipedia. Provide some [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with the section (not just a link to a google source containing mainly forum posts in your summary), if it is to be kept. [[User:QueenCake|QueenCake]] ([[User talk:QueenCake|talk]]) 20:24, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the OP that this should be included. Asking for "reliable sources" or "official sources" is ridiculous. Looking through online forums, it is clear that this is a widespread issue that seems to affect everyone running the game on Vista and Windows 7. I doubt that MS is going to post on the website for the game that it does not run properly under these operating systems.
Even if the OP is posting this issue because he is experiencing the issue (highly likely IMO), it appears to me that the others don't even have the game or run it under Vista/Windows 7. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.169.36.11|76.169.36.11]] ([[User talk:76.169.36.11|talk]]) 01:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

*Non-notable issue. As pointed out above, it's an old game and it's expected that it has problems to run in newest operative systems. Also, no sources. --[[User:Enric Naval|Enric Naval]] ([[User talk:Enric Naval|talk]]) 20:39, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

*The OP is not saying that the section should be included. He is asking for opinions, read his comment again. --[[User:Enric Naval|Enric Naval]] ([[User talk:Enric Naval|talk]]) 07:48, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

*The only two that seem to want it, are similar IP addresses, both with almost no edits among them other than trying to put back in the same material into this article. One of them has been blocked for three months do to their constant adding of information everyone else keeps reverting. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>]]''' 11:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:The other IP address has now been blocked as well, for obviously being the same person. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>]]''' 18:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

== Aztec and Mayan architectural set. ==

New World is official name of new architectural style, NOT Central American, South American, or Mesoamerican...

Do not believe? See: http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/gs/feature_previews/age2_aztecs/age2_aztecs_790screen002.jpg
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/ageofempires2thece/images/0/54/?tag=thumbs_below;thumb;54

STOP CHANGING THIS! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.77.92.173|89.77.92.173]] ([[User talk:89.77.92.173|talk]]) 07:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Former featured articleAge of Empires II is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
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Hello, Please do look at section Age of Empires II#Buildings, where it says that

The Town Center can fire arrows at enemy units within range if villagers or archers are garrisoned while under attack.

It is not true that there is necessarily any "attack", whereas it simply fires when any unit enters the line of sight. This only seems accurate to me. Please share your thought about it :) Hands of the vision (talk) 14:31, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please review my edit int the Age of Empires II#Units and civilizations, where I have changed "Seige Weaponry" to "Seige Weapons" because that's the form it is referred to in the game.

Hands of the vision (talk) 15:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

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I propose to merge Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition into this article. Per the consesnsus here and here, remasters generally shouldn't have its own article unless the changes are very significant (which is not the case here). OceanHok (talk) 12:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Based on what's in the article and the cursory search for more info, it doesn't seem like there's a ton of separate information and distinct development/reception details that couldn't be summarized, so I'd be fine with a merge. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 18:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the changes from original are signficant enough to warrant its own article (I mean this game was released 2 decades after the original so this is not a Talk:The Last of Us Remastered situation either). The coverage garnered by this game also satifies WP:GNG as laid out in its AFD which was a resounding keep and that was even before the game was released. Regards  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 17:08, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral comment I posted this at the other remake article. I think the determinative factor would be whether there is significant coverage of the development of this remake, to show that it has a distinct story from the original. That or an expansion of the reception. Otherwise you could very easily just add the re-release and reception to the main article, as they're currently very short. Shooterwalker (talk) 05:29, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as per Spy-Cicle. Mark49s (talk) 16:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • A development section doesn't exist right now. I am not seeing a very strong justification to have it as a standalone article when the parent article can accommodate all these information in a more coherant manner. OceanHok (talk) 18:59, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - unlike with the HD Edition, which was basically just porting the game over to Steam and updating the game to work on Windows 8/10, the Definitive Edition is actually a new game in itself. The changes made in the Definitive Edition (graphics, sounds, UI, main menu, new campaigns) are significant enough that the Definitive Edition should have its own article. Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition has its own separate article for the same reason Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen has its own separate article. It's an enhanced remake (with enough new features to distinguish itself from the original game) and not just a remaster.—Mythdon (talkcontribs) 19:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have withdrawn the merge request for Definitive Edition. While I still feel that the parent article can handle the information much better, it seems that there is a consensus to keep it. OceanHok (talk) 11:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]