Talk:Alchi Monastery

GA Review

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Reviewer: Xtzou (Talk) 22:52, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I am reviewing this article and will be adding comments as I go. I am also doing some copy editing which you are free to revert if I err.

• "Dukhang or Assembly Hall, the Main Temple (gTsug-lag-khang), which is a three-storied temple called the Sumtseg (gSum-brtsegs), which is considered a Kashmiri style structure that is seen in many monasteries; the third temple is called the Manjushri Temple('Jam-dpal lHa-khang); in addition, there are the Great Chörten and the Small Chörten." - I can't tell what goes with what temple. There are three: a, b and c. What are they?
• There is a reason not to use quotations in the lead. Since, per WP:LEAD, the lead is a summary of the article, you would have to repeat the quote in the body of the text.
  • Done as suggested. Please see if it is in order

Thanks.

Xtzou (Talk) 22:52, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

This is really nice. Such a fast review. Thank you, Xtzou. I am acting on your second observation first. I have made the changes in the lead and repeated the last para with the quotes in the main section under the Structures section in the second para. I hope it is OK. Please let me know if more chnages or corrections are required. '

As regards the first comment, there is littel conflusion. The chortens are just outside the limits of temples but within the complex. There is grammatical error in the first sentrence. It should read "Dukhang or Assembly Hall and the Main Temple (gTsug-lag-khang), which is a three-storied temple called the Sumtseg (gSum-brtsegs) are built in Kashmiri style as seen in many monasteries; the third temple is called the Manjushri Temple ('Jam-dpal lHa-khang). In addition, there are the Great Chörten and the Small Chörten." I hope this explanation is clear. --Nvvchar (talk) 00:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

• More comments
• "Traditionally, the creation of the Alchi complex is attributed to the famous scholar-translator Rinchen Zangpo (958–1055) in the tenth century, along with Lamayuru, Wanla, Mang-gyu and Sumda." I don't understand this sentence. It is the second sentence in History section and should orient the reader. I can't tell if "Lamayuru, Wanla, Mang-gyu and Sumda" are other architectural accomplishments or other names that the complex has been attributed to. I figured it out!

• I suggest moving and putting in its place, as the latter features one of the four small shrines and is the only interior shot pertaining to the quote in that section, as far as I can determine.

• Also, it might be good to move up near Dukhang where the door frames are mentioned.
  • Thanks. Moved both images.--Nvvchar (talk) 16:04, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

• I realize that you have received some inconsistent information about the punctuation of captions. The rule is to add a period only if it is a complete sentence, or there is more than one sentence fragment. See Mos - Formatting of captions. Xtzou (Talk) 16:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for moving the images. It is a very interesting article. Xtzou (Talk) 16:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

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• Good work! Xtzou (Talk) 16:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Two pictures are not Alchi monastery and should be changed

I'm sorry, I don't know how to upload pictures on Wikipedia. Currently, the first picture on the page, Alchi.jpg by Steve Hicks, is not Alchi monastery; it is some other building near the entrance of the village of Alchi. Unfortunately this shabby modern structure with a foreground full of debris is the thumbnail that shows up when the Alchi page is linked to. Further down the page, the photo Alchi03.jpg is of a private house inside the monastery grounds, and is not a part of the monastery. BeckyLadakh (talk) 19:26, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

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Tara or Avalokiteshvara?

The caption of the first photo in the section "Structures", showed on the left — "An image of Tara in Manjushri" — contradicts what is written in the description of the Sumtseg. As far as I can remember, when I wrote the Portuguese Wikipedia article on the monastery, I have checked the sources and I don't remember any of them mentioning a statue of Tara and all mention Avalokiteśvara (ex: [1]). Considering that the feminine representation of Avalokiteśvara may be Tara, perhaps saying that the statue is of Tara isn't wrong, but that isn't apparent to the readers, at least to the vast majority of them who don't know a lot about Tibetan art.

The "in Manjushri" is also confusing, because Manjushri is represented in another statue that stands on the other side of the Sumtseg.

I wonder if Encyclopædius and Djampa and have any thing to say about this. --pt:Stegop ^talk 20:29, 21 January 2022 (UTC)