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== Suggestion ==

This system resulted in both winter-related impacts and severe weather. Would an alternate title not be more appropriate? [[User:Dustin V. S.|<span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman">''Dustin''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Dustin V. S.|(<span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman">talk</span>)]] 20:50, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
: Need more info before doing so. It is possible it could be changed to "December 26–30, 2015 North American storm complex" (or even "December 23–30, 2015 North American storm complex") in a few days, but will need more info (incl. references) on both storms showing their connection.--[[User:Halls4521|Halls4521]] ([[User talk:Halls4521|talk]]) 23:05, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
::I would certainly avoid adding in any future dates (i.e. 29 and 30), but that said, storm complex may do. [[User:Dustin V. S.|<span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman">''Dustin''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Dustin V. S.|(<span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman">talk</span>)]] 05:58, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

== "December 26–28, 2015 North American storm complex" ==

"'''Winter Storm Goliath'''" (a gigantic winter storm, ice storm and blizzard) was affected by this tornado outbreak and visa versa. Therefore, I propose that we proceed with changing the article's title to "December 26–28, 2015 North American storm complex" (as Dustin has suggested above), due to the combined devastating effects of both connected storms and resulting flooding (and combined loss of life). Please discuss, thank you. --[[User:Halls4521|Halls4521]] ([[User talk:Halls4521|talk]]) 21:32, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:'''support''' The impacts of the blizzard were at least as disruptive as the tornadoes, so I think it makes more sense fore there to be an article for the system as a whole rather than just the tornado outbreak. On a side note, I would oppose any reference to this system as "Winter Storm Goliath." [[User:TornadoLGS|TornadoLGS]] ([[User talk:TornadoLGS|talk]]) 22:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
*'''Support''' renaming of article; oppose "Winter Storm Goliath." [[User:United States Man|United States Man]] ([[User talk:United States Man#top|talk]]) 23:21, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
*{{done}} ~ [[User:Cyclonebiskit|Cyclonebiskit]] ([[User talk:Cyclonebiskit|chat]]) 23:31, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

== Section header "Blizzard and ice storm" ==

I've got to question this header because it neglects non-blizzard / non-ice wintry impacts of the storm. Many areas were affected by snow / sleet and were under Winter Storm Warnings but did not experience blizzard conditions. Perhaps a condensed "Winter storm" header title would do? [[User:Dustin V. S.|<span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman">''Dustin''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Dustin V. S.|(<span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman">talk</span>)]] 18:06, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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== Section for Dallas County EF4 ==

With $26.8 million, 10 deaths and 468 injuries as an EF4, IMO, it deserves a section. Even if we can’t find a wind speed estimate. [[Special:Contributions/47.23.6.178|47.23.6.178]] ([[User talk:47.23.6.178|talk]]) 21:35, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

:It's fine the way it is. [[User:ChessEric|ChessEric]] ([[User talk:ChessEric|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/ChessEric|contribs]]) 08:11, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

== Garland Winds ==

Hey I am new to this and thought I'd ask here before making a change. Where exactly was the 180 mph found from the winds of the Garland tornado? On the DAT the max indicator I have found has windspeeds listed at 175 mph. I think the 180 was a mistake, as the first winds listed here were 180. [[User:17threpublic|17threpublic]] ([[User talk:17threpublic|talk]]) 16:00, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

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Suggestion

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This system resulted in both winter-related impacts and severe weather. Would an alternate title not be more appropriate? Dustin (talk) 20:50, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Need more info before doing so. It is possible it could be changed to "December 26–30, 2015 North American storm complex" (or even "December 23–30, 2015 North American storm complex") in a few days, but will need more info (incl. references) on both storms showing their connection.--Halls4521 (talk) 23:05, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I would certainly avoid adding in any future dates (i.e. 29 and 30), but that said, storm complex may do. Dustin (talk) 05:58, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"December 26–28, 2015 North American storm complex"

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"Winter Storm Goliath" (a gigantic winter storm, ice storm and blizzard) was affected by this tornado outbreak and visa versa. Therefore, I propose that we proceed with changing the article's title to "December 26–28, 2015 North American storm complex" (as Dustin has suggested above), due to the combined devastating effects of both connected storms and resulting flooding (and combined loss of life). Please discuss, thank you. --Halls4521 (talk) 21:32, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

support The impacts of the blizzard were at least as disruptive as the tornadoes, so I think it makes more sense fore there to be an article for the system as a whole rather than just the tornado outbreak. On a side note, I would oppose any reference to this system as "Winter Storm Goliath." TornadoLGS (talk) 22:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Section header "Blizzard and ice storm"

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I've got to question this header because it neglects non-blizzard / non-ice wintry impacts of the storm. Many areas were affected by snow / sleet and were under Winter Storm Warnings but did not experience blizzard conditions. Perhaps a condensed "Winter storm" header title would do? Dustin (talk) 18:06, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 18:24, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Section for Dallas County EF4

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With $26.8 million, 10 deaths and 468 injuries as an EF4, IMO, it deserves a section. Even if we can’t find a wind speed estimate. 47.23.6.178 (talk) 21:35, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine the way it is. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 08:11, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Garland Winds

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Hey I am new to this and thought I'd ask here before making a change. Where exactly was the 180 mph found from the winds of the Garland tornado? On the DAT the max indicator I have found has windspeeds listed at 175 mph. I think the 180 was a mistake, as the first winds listed here were 180. 17threpublic (talk) 16:00, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]