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==Requested move==
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==Unbalanced==
While the scandal is likely to be the most interesting aspect of this biography it does seem to be the sole focus. He served for 22 years before being a mayor, had a life before that and certainly did other things as the mayor. We need to build up the other aspects to tell the whole story rather than just the scandal. [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj<span style="color:#FF4400;">e</span></u><u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<span style="color:#AA0022;">oi</span></u>]] 23:03, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


Since the previous unbalanced charges were raised the article has been re-written. It is far more balanced now.
The result of the debate was '''Moved''' by [[User:Cleared as filed|Cleared as filed]]. —[[User:Locke Cole|<font color="blue">Locke Cole</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Locke Cole|<font color="black">(</font><font color="blue">talk</font><font color="black">)</font>]] [[Special:Emailuser/Locke_Cole|<font color="black">(e-mail)</font>]]</sup> 19:20, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


==Media Bias==
For some reason [[James E. West]] redirects to [[James West]] which is a dab page. If someone types in "James E. West" I doubt they want to be sent to a dab page for the more generic "James West". Amongst people with "James E. West" as their name on Wikipedia, I also believe this to be the more notable "James E. West". (The other "James E. West" article is about Boy Scouts guy, and is currently a copyvio at that).


I live in Washington state and I remember a news story about West from the 90's in which he left a threatening phone message on the answering machine of a Democratic state legislator. West did make a number of political enemies in the Democratic party during his political career. After watching the PBS show it became clear to me that the newspaper editor was a political opponent of West for years before West became mayor of Spokane. Still, it is very upsetting to see the viciousness and political bias on the part of the newspaper that prompted the supposedly "objective" editor to go after West with a sting operation. West wasn't very smart or discreet in his sexual behavior, but I also have no doubt that he framed by the news media. Funny, isn't it the liberals who constantly tell us that there is nothing wrong with being gay? I guess they will never apply the same rule to gay Republicans. It sure is interesting to see how differently the media covered the gay sex scandals regarding Portland, Oregon mayor Sam Adams in 2009. Adams is a Democrat. As far as I can tell West never lied about his gay sexual relationships the way Adams did. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.160.96.193|216.160.96.193]] ([[User talk:216.160.96.193|talk]]) 08:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Hello. I have proposed that [[Shannon Sullivan]] be merged into here. Essentially the Sullivan article would be removed and redirected here. Her role is already mentioned in the West article. The long autobio that is currently on her page would be removed completely. Please provide your thoughts. [[User:Lbbzman|Lbbzman]] 14:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

==Page moves==
I've moved it back. I'm not entirely sure if there was an attempt to setup a dab page (which is silly IMO, there's only two articles that dab to "James E. West", and having "James E. West" redirect to "James West" is equally silly; if someone types in "James E. West" they don't want to be sent to a less specific dab page), but "James E. West" was redirecting to the "James E. West (politician)" article anyways before I moved it back. If there's some argument over who's more notable, we can hash that out, but I really don't see the harm in dab'ing to "James E. West (scouting)" at the very top of the article for the time being. —[[User:Locke Cole|Locke Cole]] • [[User talk:Locke Cole|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Locke Cole|c]] 07:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

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==Requested move==
* [[James E. West]] → '''[[James E. West (politician)]]''' &mdash; This no longer serves being the main name, when there are several people for the same name &mdash; [[Talk:James E. West]] &mdash; [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 00:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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*'''Support move''', for reasons stated below. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 01:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. The two men seem equally notable, so a disambiguation page should be at [[James E. West]]. -[[User:Will Beback|Will Beback]] 01:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per Will Beback. [[User:Lbbzman|Lbbzman]] 02:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

===Discussion===
As there are two James E. Wests, and as both are of import to different groups of people, I have requested to the moderators to move this page to "James E. West (politician)". Not worried about who's more notable, more about both being notable enough to have their subject mentioned in the title of their article, as per Wikipedia policy. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 00:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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Unbalanced

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While the scandal is likely to be the most interesting aspect of this biography it does seem to be the sole focus. He served for 22 years before being a mayor, had a life before that and certainly did other things as the mayor. We need to build up the other aspects to tell the whole story rather than just the scandal. -- Banjeboi 23:03, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since the previous unbalanced charges were raised the article has been re-written. It is far more balanced now.

Media Bias

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I live in Washington state and I remember a news story about West from the 90's in which he left a threatening phone message on the answering machine of a Democratic state legislator. West did make a number of political enemies in the Democratic party during his political career. After watching the PBS show it became clear to me that the newspaper editor was a political opponent of West for years before West became mayor of Spokane. Still, it is very upsetting to see the viciousness and political bias on the part of the newspaper that prompted the supposedly "objective" editor to go after West with a sting operation. West wasn't very smart or discreet in his sexual behavior, but I also have no doubt that he framed by the news media. Funny, isn't it the liberals who constantly tell us that there is nothing wrong with being gay? I guess they will never apply the same rule to gay Republicans. It sure is interesting to see how differently the media covered the gay sex scandals regarding Portland, Oregon mayor Sam Adams in 2009. Adams is a Democrat. As far as I can tell West never lied about his gay sexual relationships the way Adams did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.160.96.193 (talk) 08:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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