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==Death==
I'm hearing only on FB that he has died. Until it is published by someone via an obituary, this is purely speculation and does not belong on Wikipedia. --[[User:St.Jimmy666|Mutlee]] ([[User talk:St.Jimmy666|talk]]) 19:56, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


. Confirmed on Twitter by Marilyn Manson News https://twitter.com/MansonNews/status/922203684049686528 - also posted on Facebook by Genitorturers who were very close to the early Marilyn Manson band [[User:Donnachadelong|Donnacha]] ([[User talk:Donnachadelong|talk]]) 23:20, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


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==This Article Needs Help==
==This Article Needs Help==

Much of it is very POV, almost all of it is completely unsourced, and the language is painfully unencyclopedic. I'd be willing to work on revising the language/POV issues if someone (original editor?) can provide citations for the information. --[[Special:Contributions/68.222.26.206|68.222.26.206]] ([[User talk:68.222.26.206|talk]]) 05:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Much of it is very POV, almost all of it is completely unsourced, and the language is painfully unencyclopedic. I'd be willing to work on revising the language/POV issues if someone (original editor?) can provide citations for the information. --[[Special:Contributions/68.222.26.206|68.222.26.206]] ([[User talk:68.222.26.206|talk]]) 05:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


== Requested move 28 September 2015 ==
== Requested move 28 September 2015 ==
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The result of the move request was: '''Not Moved''' - Point of policy, re: {{tq|Although he hasn't been known by that name for some time, it appears that Daisy Berkowitz is the name he used during his primary period of notability, ..}} This argument confuses the traditional definition of notability (fame) and the WP concept of notability (once notable, always notable). They are not one in the same and thus an irrelevant argument. No evidence that requested name is the COMMONNAME. Whether the content re "more famously ..." is verifiable or not is a content issue. [[User:Mike Cline|Mike Cline]] ([[User talk:Mike Cline|talk]]) 20:28, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
{{requested move/dated|Daisy Berkowitz}}


[[:Scott Putesky]] → {{no redirect|Daisy Berkowitz}} – Per [[WP:COMMONNAME]] – as the article says, "more famously known as '''Daisy Berkowitz'''". —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 15:29, 28 September 2015 (UTC) <small>--'''Relisted.''' [[User:Natg 19|Natg 19]] ([[User talk:Natg 19|talk]]) 05:26, 6 October 2015 (UTC)</small>
[[:Scott Putesky]] → {{no redirect|Daisy Berkowitz}} – Per [[WP:COMMONNAME]] – as the article says, "more famously known as '''Daisy Berkowitz'''". —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 15:29, 28 September 2015 (UTC) <small>--'''Relisted.''' [[User:Natg 19|Natg 19]] ([[User talk:Natg 19|talk]]) 05:26, 6 October 2015 (UTC)</small>
*'''Oppose''' The claim from the article is unsourced (IE that he is "more famously known as...") and as far as I can tell, he hasn't been known under that name for the best part of a decade. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Dick Laurent is dead]]</sup> 12:36, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' The claim from the article is unsourced (IE that he is "more famously known as...") and as far as I can tell, he hasn't been known under that name for the best part of a decade. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Dick Laurent is dead]]</sup> 12:36, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
:Although he hasn't been known by that name for some time, it appears that Daisy Berkowitz is the name he used during his primary period of notability, so the situation seems a bit like [[Cat Stevens]] (although Berkowitz/Putesky is less well known in general and Stevens/Islam has done some very notable things since his name change). The various things that happened since the "Daisy Berkowitz" period don't seem nearly as notable as that period itself. The "Post-Marilyn Manson work" section of the article seems to basically consist of descriptions of short-lived small projects that "lasted for only a handful of gigs" or were a "demo tape" of "rough tracks" or had a "plan for a national tour" that "was ruined" or were just "kicked around" or "broke up" a few months later or involved some brief "lending", or they are stories of lawsuits over his prior work in Marlyn Manson as Daisy Berkowitz. I don't find anything in a quick off-Wikipedia web search that indicates that what the article says is wrong when saying he is "more famously known as Daisy Berkowitz". —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 22:23, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

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== I told you he was Jewish! ==

I told you he was Jewish and you did not believe me! You guys suck and are hypocrites! comment added by [[user:60.224.198.189]] [[User:Scope creep|scope_creep]] ([[User talk:Scope creep|talk]]) 07:58, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

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I'm hearing only on FB that he has died. Until it is published by someone via an obituary, this is purely speculation and does not belong on Wikipedia. --Mutlee (talk) 19:56, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

. Confirmed on Twitter by Marilyn Manson News https://twitter.com/MansonNews/status/922203684049686528 - also posted on Facebook by Genitorturers who were very close to the early Marilyn Manson band Donnacha (talk) 23:20, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I altered the following sentence: "Copies of the disc can occasionally be found on e-bay being sold in excess of $100.00." I just sold my copy for $1.75. I think someone is just trying to artificially inflate prices (or is behind the times... this CD used to be worth more.) 63.249.109.88 21:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This Article Needs Help

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Much of it is very POV, almost all of it is completely unsourced, and the language is painfully unencyclopedic. I'd be willing to work on revising the language/POV issues if someone (original editor?) can provide citations for the information. --68.222.26.206 (talk) 05:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 September 2015

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved - Point of policy, re: Although he hasn't been known by that name for some time, it appears that Daisy Berkowitz is the name he used during his primary period of notability, .. This argument confuses the traditional definition of notability (fame) and the WP concept of notability (once notable, always notable). They are not one in the same and thus an irrelevant argument. No evidence that requested name is the COMMONNAME. Whether the content re "more famously ..." is verifiable or not is a content issue. Mike Cline (talk) 20:28, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Scott PuteskyDaisy Berkowitz – Per WP:COMMONNAME – as the article says, "more famously known as Daisy Berkowitz". —BarrelProof (talk) 15:29, 28 September 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 05:26, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Although he hasn't been known by that name for some time, it appears that Daisy Berkowitz is the name he used during his primary period of notability, so the situation seems a bit like Cat Stevens (although Berkowitz/Putesky is less well known in general and Stevens/Islam has done some very notable things since his name change). The various things that happened since the "Daisy Berkowitz" period don't seem nearly as notable as that period itself. The "Post-Marilyn Manson work" section of the article seems to basically consist of descriptions of short-lived small projects that "lasted for only a handful of gigs" or were a "demo tape" of "rough tracks" or had a "plan for a national tour" that "was ruined" or were just "kicked around" or "broke up" a few months later or involved some brief "lending", or they are stories of lawsuits over his prior work in Marlyn Manson as Daisy Berkowitz. I don't find anything in a quick off-Wikipedia web search that indicates that what the article says is wrong when saying he is "more famously known as Daisy Berkowitz". —BarrelProof (talk) 22:23, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

I told you he was Jewish!

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I told you he was Jewish and you did not believe me! You guys suck and are hypocrites! comment added by user:60.224.198.189 scope_creep (talk) 07:58, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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