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See [http://www.visitpittsburgh.com/essentials/architecture/theaters/ here] for source. —[[User:Notyourbroom|Bill Price]] ([[User talk:Notyourbroom|nyb]]) 02:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC) |
See [http://www.visitpittsburgh.com/essentials/architecture/theaters/ here] for source. —[[User:Notyourbroom|Bill Price]] ([[User talk:Notyourbroom|nyb]]) 02:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:Actually, hold on- it looks like they plagiarized from Wikipedia, as [http://web.archive.org/web/20080602133144/http://www.visitpittsburgh.com/essentials/architecture/theaters/ the archive.org version of June 2008] seems to correspond with [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Byham_Theater&oldid=182354663 the contemporary Wikipedia article]. —[[User:Notyourbroom|Bill Price]] ([[User talk:Notyourbroom|nyb]]) 02:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC) |
:Actually, hold on- it looks like they plagiarized from Wikipedia, as [http://web.archive.org/web/20080602133144/http://www.visitpittsburgh.com/essentials/architecture/theaters/ the archive.org version of June 2008] seems to correspond with [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Byham_Theater&oldid=182354663 the contemporary Wikipedia article]. —[[User:Notyourbroom|Bill Price]] ([[User talk:Notyourbroom|nyb]]) 02:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC) |
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::I keep changing my mind- I'm not sure who copied from whom, to be honest. This article is quite well sourced (albeit in-line) whereas there's nothing on the VisitPittsburgh website to indicate authorship or research of any kind. —[[User:Notyourbroom|Bill Price]] ([[User talk:Notyourbroom|nyb]]) 02:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC) |
::I keep changing my mind- I'm not sure who copied from whom, to be honest. This article is quite well sourced (albeit not in-line) whereas there's nothing on the VisitPittsburgh website to indicate authorship or research of any kind. —[[User:Notyourbroom|Bill Price]] ([[User talk:Notyourbroom|nyb]]) 02:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Thank you for noting your concerns! It can be very difficult to determine point of origin when a website has the same content as a Wikipedia page. I've done some evaluation, and with the information we have, we can't really disprove copying of part of the contents of the page. The truly problematic paragraph was added [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Byham_Theater&diff=next&oldid=179819858 here]. It was added all in one piece and without any sourcing whatsoever. The archived version of the external source does not extend far back enough to verify copying on our part, but it doesn't fall so short as to verify copying on theirs, either. Since there have been no changes to that text to show natural evolution, I next looked at our articles corresponding to other listings on their page. No content is duplicated. If they copied from Wikipedia, they would have copied only that one paragraph, which seems unlikely. Under the circumstances, I've removed the problematic paragraph from our article. The rest of the content is, I believe, independently developed. --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 14:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC) |
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[edit]See here for source. —Bill Price (nyb) 02:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, hold on- it looks like they plagiarized from Wikipedia, as the archive.org version of June 2008 seems to correspond with the contemporary Wikipedia article. —Bill Price (nyb) 02:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- I keep changing my mind- I'm not sure who copied from whom, to be honest. This article is quite well sourced (albeit not in-line) whereas there's nothing on the VisitPittsburgh website to indicate authorship or research of any kind. —Bill Price (nyb) 02:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for noting your concerns! It can be very difficult to determine point of origin when a website has the same content as a Wikipedia page. I've done some evaluation, and with the information we have, we can't really disprove copying of part of the contents of the page. The truly problematic paragraph was added here. It was added all in one piece and without any sourcing whatsoever. The archived version of the external source does not extend far back enough to verify copying on our part, but it doesn't fall so short as to verify copying on theirs, either. Since there have been no changes to that text to show natural evolution, I next looked at our articles corresponding to other listings on their page. No content is duplicated. If they copied from Wikipedia, they would have copied only that one paragraph, which seems unlikely. Under the circumstances, I've removed the problematic paragraph from our article. The rest of the content is, I believe, independently developed. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- I keep changing my mind- I'm not sure who copied from whom, to be honest. This article is quite well sourced (albeit not in-line) whereas there's nothing on the VisitPittsburgh website to indicate authorship or research of any kind. —Bill Price (nyb) 02:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)