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So, @Zac Perrera changed it (also did a bunch of really stupids edits in the process, but those are an easy fix). Does bring up the question: list or table? I think it looks better in a table. [[Special:Contributions/131.227.105.31|131.227.105.31]] ([[User talk:131.227.105.31|talk]]) 22:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC) |
So, @Zac Perrera changed it (also did a bunch of really stupids edits in the process, but those are an easy fix). Does bring up the question: list or table? I think it looks better in a table. [[Special:Contributions/131.227.105.31|131.227.105.31]] ([[User talk:131.227.105.31|talk]]) 22:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{replyto|131.227.105.31}} I agree, I'll change it back to a table. <span style="border: 1px #e5e5e7 solid;background:#32323e;padding:1px">[[User:TheKaphox|< |
:{{replyto|131.227.105.31}} I agree, I'll change it back to a table. <span style="border: 1px #e5e5e7 solid;background:#32323e;padding:1px">[[User:TheKaphox|<span style="color:#e5e5e7;">TheKaphox</span>]] [[User talk:TheKaphox|<span style="color:#e5c100;">T</span>]]</span> 15:56, 5 June 2017 (UTC) |
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{{ping|Mn1548}} Other benefit concert setlists (e.g. [[Live Aid]]) use table formats. Not sure whether the usual concert setlist format is better though. [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) <small><span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use {{[[Template:Reply to|re]]|Jc86035}}<br />to reply to me</span></small> 12:22, 22 June 2017 (UTC) |
{{ping|Mn1548}} Other benefit concert setlists (e.g. [[Live Aid]]) use table formats. Not sure whether the usual concert setlist format is better though. [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) <small><span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use {{[[Template:Reply to|re]]|Jc86035}}<br />to reply to me</span></small> 12:22, 22 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|El cid, el campeador}} I feel that the list of countries should be mentioned even if their country flags weren't used. Many of them broadcast it live and since it was a one off event, I feel it should be mentioned. For example, ''[[Hope for Haiti Now: A Global Benefit for Earthquake Relief]]'' lists all the countries that broadcast that event. ([[Special:Contributions/58.164.100.14|58.164.100.14]] ([[User talk:58.164.100.14|talk]]) 03:18, 6 June 2017 (UTC)) |
:::{{ping|El cid, el campeador}} I feel that the list of countries should be mentioned even if their country flags weren't used. Many of them broadcast it live and since it was a one off event, I feel it should be mentioned. For example, ''[[Hope for Haiti Now: A Global Benefit for Earthquake Relief]]'' lists all the countries that broadcast that event. ([[Special:Contributions/58.164.100.14|58.164.100.14]] ([[User talk:58.164.100.14|talk]]) 03:18, 6 June 2017 (UTC)) |
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:Just about to comment on this. No reason to list every single radio station, as it's complete [[WP:CRUFT|cruft]]. Ditto for all the international broadcasters. Just a simple line about x radio stations and y countries is all that is needed. '''[[User:Lugnuts|< |
:Just about to comment on this. No reason to list every single radio station, as it's complete [[WP:CRUFT|cruft]]. Ditto for all the international broadcasters. Just a simple line about x radio stations and y countries is all that is needed. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Fire Walk with Me]]</sup> 08:47, 6 June 2017 (UTC) |
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::If someone wants to add back the country names feel free to do so, but I just took it out. [[User:El cid, el campeador|El cid, el campeador]] ([[User talk:El cid, el campeador|talk]]) 18:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC) |
::If someone wants to add back the country names feel free to do so, but I just took it out. [[User:El cid, el campeador|El cid, el campeador]] ([[User talk:El cid, el campeador|talk]]) 18:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Added back the list of international broadcasters, it is mostly sourced unlike the radio stations. There is no source i could find that lists all the countries that broadcast the contest. Many pages have such lists, especially for sporting events, so why not this article? Thanks, [[User:Fort esc|Fort esc]] ([[User talk:Fort esc|talk]]) 18:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC) |
:::Added back the list of international broadcasters, it is mostly sourced unlike the radio stations. There is no source i could find that lists all the countries that broadcast the contest. Many pages have such lists, especially for sporting events, so why not this article? Thanks, [[User:Fort esc|Fort esc]] ([[User talk:Fort esc|talk]]) 18:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC) |
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Proposal to include or exclude the event is discussed at [[Talk:2017#One Love Manchester benefit concert]], where I invite you to comment. Cheers. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 01:07, 5 July 2017 (UTC) |
Proposal to include or exclude the event is discussed at [[Talk:2017#One Love Manchester benefit concert]], where I invite you to comment. Cheers. --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 01:07, 5 July 2017 (UTC) |
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Do we need to show both the logo and promotional poster? They are pretty similar. ---[[User:Another Believer|<span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Another Believer|<span style="color:#C60">Talk</span>]])</sub> 00:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:*Aaaand reverted although I've asked at the Help Desk - If the bunny ears do make it above the TOO threshold then I'll copy it over. –[[User:Davey2010|<span style="color: blue;">'''Davey'''</span><span style="color: orange;">'''2010'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Davey2010|<span style="color: navy;">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 00:01, 9 December 2018 (UTC) |
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Merge with Dangerous Woman Tour
[edit]- Why create an article for a single concert? It would be better as a section in either the Dangerous Woman Tour article, or the bombing article. Splintering it into its own article just forces people to click around more without adding anything helpful and encyclopedic. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:20, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:GNG. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:13, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]- http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7809747/ariana-grande-one-love-manchester-charity-concert-bieber-cyrus-katy-perry
- http://www.postandcourier.com/news/ariana-grande-announces-one-love-manchester-benefit-with-katy-perry/article_25fe9608-455a-11e7-9a2d-afaa5c1b1dc1.html
- https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/05/30/ariana-grande-announces-one-love-manchester-concert-justin-bieber-katy-perry/102310754/
- http://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/ariana-grande-to-play-one-love-manchester-charity-concert-on-sunday-1.3435578
- http://www.eonline.com/news/857866/ariana-grande-s-manchester-benefit-concert-recruits-justin-bieber-miley-cyrus-and-more
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q960TR7zAQ8
- http://variety.com/2017/music/news/ariana-grande-justin-bieber-coldplay-katy-perry-one-love-manchester-benefit-sunday-1202447578/
- http://abc13.com/news/ariana-grande-hosting-one-love-manchester-concert/2054866/
- http://fox6now.com/2017/05/30/one-love-manchester-ariana-grande-to-play-benefit-show-june-4th-and-shes-bringing-friends/
- http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/30/ariana-grande-announces-one-love-manchester-benefit-concert-for-terror-attack-victims-6672906/
- http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/811072/Ariana-Grande-concert-Manchester-date-line-up-confirmed-Coldplay-Katy-Perry
- http://news.iheart.com/onair/sisanie-5507/ariana-grande-announces-one-love-manchester-15870532/
- http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ariana-grande-one-love-manchester-charity-concert-20170530-story.html
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/miley-cyrus-justin-bieber-join-ariana-grandes-manchester-concert_us_592d8a6fe4b0df57cbfd7f2e
- http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/ariana-grande-manchester-tickets-buy-10529962
- http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/05/31/one-love-manchester-stars-join-grande-manchester-benefit-gig
- http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/ariana-grande-concert-presale-tickets-13107061
- http://www.lccc.co.uk/cricket/news/2017-news/ariana-grande-one-love-manchester-concert-emirates-old-trafford/
- https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/2017/05/30/ariana-grande-to-play-manchester-charity-concert-on-sunday.html
- http://www.ibtimes.com/how-get-tickets-ariana-grandes-one-love-manchester-benefit-concert-2545353
- http://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a9949935/ariana-grande-manchester-benefit-concert/
- https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/30/ariana-grande-may-return-manchester-this-weekend-say-police-benefit-concert
- http://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/ariana-grande-manchester-benefit-concert-1.4137671
---Another Believer (Talk) 04:32, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Excellent Initiative
[edit]Don't see why this needs be merged with anything else. Is the Wikipedia running out of server space? Didn't think so. Please drop me a note when you publish, I'll be happy to have a look. XavierItzm (talk) 18:34, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
- @XavierItzm: The article is now in the main space if you wish to help expand. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:39, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
History merge?
[edit]@Anthony Appleyard: I submitted a hist merge request since this draft was created prior to the existing live article (One Love Manchester). I have transferred most of the content over to the main space already, but would appreciate a proper recording of the page's history and talk page. Are you able to help with this? ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:10, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: Regrettably, sorry no. The texts of Draft:One Love Manchester and One Love Manchester are very different at the join point; there was no single complete cut-and-paste event, only gradual partial copyings; and there is some WP:Parallel histories. Best put a history note at the top of Talk:One Love Manchester. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 03:45, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- That's disappointing, but thanks for checking. Well then, for the record, here's the original edit and the page's history. I went ahead and redirected Draft:One Love Manchester to this article and moved Draft talk:One Love Manchester to Talk:One Love Manchester (this page). ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:02, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Which date format?
[edit]Which date format should we use? I'm inclined to think UK because the event is being held in the UK, but Grande is American, so I'm not sure. We should decide to clear up any possible later confusion. Any thoughts? This is Paul (talk) 19:12, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- I think UK formatting seems more appropriate. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:30, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Line-up for "One Love Manchester"
[edit]Here is the line-up to the concert by chronological order with some extras added to the concert. Just if anyone wants to add it to the infobox for performances. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/line-up-ariana-grandes-one-love-manchester-concert-tonight/ --82.41.158.132 (talk) 19:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Does anyone want to add this template? I'm not familiar enough with British spelling customs to determine if the template applies to the article or not. — Gestrid (talk) 21:37, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Setlist in list or table?
[edit]So, @Zac Perrera changed it (also did a bunch of really stupids edits in the process, but those are an easy fix). Does bring up the question: list or table? I think it looks better in a table. 131.227.105.31 (talk) 22:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- @131.227.105.31: I agree, I'll change it back to a table. TheKaphox T 15:56, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
@Mn1548: Other benefit concert setlists (e.g. Live Aid) use table formats. Not sure whether the usual concert setlist format is better though. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 12:22, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
- {{re|Jc86035}} Personally I find the list more aesthetically pleasing and also that is how I've seen all other (or the vast majority of) setlists being displayed on Wikipedia so changing it will help with consistency ascross the site. However with that said, it's only aesthetics, therefore not a massive problem with the page. Mn1548 —Preceding undated comment added 13:26, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Need for every radio station and tv station and online streaming source?
[edit]I see absolutely no reason to list all the stations that it appeared on. Is there one? It's like half the article El cid, el campeador (talk) 18:57, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- I think it needs to be there for the purpose that it was a one off event and the international reach it had, it was broadcast in 36 countries. (58.164.100.14 (talk) 01:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC))
- Can't we say "it was broadcast in 36 countries" instead? There is absolutely no reason anyone would look on this page to see a list of the specific list of channels, which itself says is incomplete. El cid, el campeador (talk) 02:05, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- @El cid, el campeador: I feel that the list of countries should be mentioned even if their country flags weren't used. Many of them broadcast it live and since it was a one off event, I feel it should be mentioned. For example, Hope for Haiti Now: A Global Benefit for Earthquake Relief lists all the countries that broadcast that event. (58.164.100.14 (talk) 03:18, 6 June 2017 (UTC))
- Can't we say "it was broadcast in 36 countries" instead? There is absolutely no reason anyone would look on this page to see a list of the specific list of channels, which itself says is incomplete. El cid, el campeador (talk) 02:05, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Just about to comment on this. No reason to list every single radio station, as it's complete cruft. Ditto for all the international broadcasters. Just a simple line about x radio stations and y countries is all that is needed. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:47, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- If someone wants to add back the country names feel free to do so, but I just took it out. El cid, el campeador (talk) 18:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Added back the list of international broadcasters, it is mostly sourced unlike the radio stations. There is no source i could find that lists all the countries that broadcast the contest. Many pages have such lists, especially for sporting events, so why not this article? Thanks, Fort esc (talk) 18:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- FWIW I would've supported the removal so thanks to who ever sorted it all out. –Davey2010Talk 19:05, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Added back the list of international broadcasters, it is mostly sourced unlike the radio stations. There is no source i could find that lists all the countries that broadcast the contest. Many pages have such lists, especially for sporting events, so why not this article? Thanks, Fort esc (talk) 18:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- If someone wants to add back the country names feel free to do so, but I just took it out. El cid, el campeador (talk) 18:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Liam Gallagher
[edit]The information about Liam Gallagher is wrong. I changed it once but it has since been changed back. Here are the facts:
Rock im Ring and Rock im Park are two festivals happening at the same time at different places in Germany. He was supposed to perform at Rock am Ring on Friday, but the rest of the day was cancelled before his performance due to terror suspicions.
He was scheduled to perform at Rock im Park on Sunday afternoon and that performance took place! See: http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/liam-gallagher-bd6bd72.html
He must have quickly left Germany and flown to Manchester to perform at One Love Manchester.
Can someone else please correct it so the information stays up this time? Thank you. Mkomkomko (talk) 11:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Changed it myself once more with an additional source.Mkomkomko (talk) 14:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Proposal to include or exclude the event is discussed at Talk:2017#One Love Manchester benefit concert, where I invite you to comment. Cheers. --George Ho (talk) 01:07, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Illustrations
[edit]Do we need to show both the logo and promotional poster? They are pretty similar. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Aaaand reverted although I've asked at the Help Desk - If the bunny ears do make it above the TOO threshold then I'll copy it over. –Davey2010Talk 00:01, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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