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Kahn vs. Khan

I see many references to "Genghis Kahn" instead of "Genghis Khan", including in the title of books in the Further Reading section. Are these all typos, or are there multiple acceptable spellings? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 05:52, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Having received no response, I changed each instance of "Kahn" to "Khan", except for the author of one of the books. GoingBatty (talk) 00:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Monggol word "Khan" has a fricative "kh" sound, like the letter "X" in Russian. The proper transliteration then is "Khan". Unless he's Madeleine Kahn's brother or something. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 16:24, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also note the proper pronunciation of his title is "Ching-ggiz" or "Tsing-ggiz". Thus "Genghis", while an old spelling, has the h after the second g, not the first. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 16:24, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sequel

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416044/faq#.2.1.5

"Originally that was the plan, but it now seem highly unlikely that there will be even one, let alone two sequels. Mongol was initially conceived as the first part of a trilogy which would cover Temudgin's entire life. However, after the difficulties experienced during the making of Mongol, writer/director Sergei Bodrov decided to abandon the trilogy and leave Mongol as a stand alone film. However, whilst doing promotional work for the film, Bodrov began to contemplate the possibility of doing not two sequels, but just one, combining his ideas for parts 2 and 3 into one film. As of April 2010, Bodrov was working on part 2, tentatively titled The Great Khan, which was expected to start filming later in 2010 with a budget of around $45 million. As of 26 December 2010, however, all production on The Great Khan had ceased, and as of July 2012, there are no plans to resurrect the project."

I don't know what the original source of this information is but it seems the sequel section might need updating to show that a second film probably won't be made/released. Maybe?

(wikim3) 14:54, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Kahn vs. Khan ==
+I see many references to "Genghis Kahn" instead of "[[Genghis Khan]]", including in the title of books in the Further Reading section.  Are these all typos, or are there multiple acceptable spellings?  Thanks!  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 05:52, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
-This article was mentioned in the Washington Post: [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/19/AR2008061903905.html "How the East Was Won: The Romance Of Genghis Khan"].
+:Having received no response, I changed each instance of "Kahn" to "Khan", except for the author of one of the books.  [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 00:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
-[[User:Fothergill Volkensniff IV|Fothergill Volkensniff IV]] ([[User talk:Fothergill Volkensniff IV|talk]]) 13:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
+::The Monggol word "Khan" has a fricative "kh" sound, like the letter "X" in Russian. The proper transliteration then is "Khan". Unless he's [[Madeleine Kahn]]'s brother or something. [[User:AllGloryToTheHypnotoad|AllGloryToTheHypnotoad]] ([[User talk:AllGloryToTheHypnotoad|talk]]) 16:24, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
+::Also note the proper pronunciation of his title is "Ching-ggiz" or "Tsing-ggiz". Thus "Genghis", while an old spelling, has the h after the second g, not the first. [[User:AllGloryToTheHypnotoad|AllGloryToTheHypnotoad]] ([[User talk:AllGloryToTheHypnotoad|talk]]) 16:24, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
-== Cost? ==
+== Sequel ==
+http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416044/faq#.2.1.5
-How much did it cost to make?  Text says $20M, box says $10M.  [[User:CsikosLo|CsikosLo]] ([[User talk:CsikosLo|talk]]) 12:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
+"Originally that was the plan, but it now seem highly unlikely that there will be even one, let alone two sequels. Mongol was initially conceived as the first part of a trilogy which would cover Temudgin's entire life. However, after the difficulties experienced during the making of Mongol, writer/director Sergei Bodrov decided to abandon the trilogy and leave Mongol as a stand alone film. However, whilst doing promotional work for the film, Bodrov began to contemplate the possibility of doing not two sequels, but just one, combining his ideas for parts 2 and 3 into one film. As of April 2010, Bodrov was working on part 2, tentatively titled The Great Khan, which was expected to start filming later in 2010 with a budget of around $45 million. As of 26 December 2010, however, all production on The Great Khan had ceased, and as of July 2012, there are no plans to resurrect the project."
-== Language ==
+I don't know what the ''original'' source of this information is but it seems the sequel section might need updating to show that a second film probably won't be made/released. Maybe?
-Two main actors were Japanese and Chinese, rather than Mongolians (the others don't have a page yet). How come they spoke Mongolian? I don't think there was any dubbing going on, or was there? [[User:Junes|Junes]] ([[User talk:Junes|talk]]) 10:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
-== historical accuracy ==
+([[User talk:wikim3|wikim3]]) 14:54, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
-Having just seen this movie and having previously read accounts of the life of Temuchin in scholarly works based on the ''Secret Life of Ghengis Khan'' I can say that this film is rife with historical inaccuracies. Do I need to cite a reference to an academic who also believes this to avoid WP:NOR? [[User:Master z0b|Master z0b]] ([[User talk:Master z0b|talk]]) 08:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
+== External links modified (February 2018) ==
-:The article already cites (although not very formally) a publication in which ''the director'' admits to having taken artistic liberties with historical details. If you want to expand on that, then you'll have to cite ''someone'', which doesn't necessarily have to be academics. That shouldn't be very difficult, as it is well known and published that the primary goal of the makers was to tell a catching story, not to create a historical documentary. --[[User:Latebird|Latebird]] ([[User talk:Latebird|talk]]) 21:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
-::If the director isn't contending that it is historical accurate, citing inaccuracies is a npov problem. Someone complaining that a movie wasn't what it didn't claim to be is hardly relevant.--[[User:Crossmr|Crossmr]] ([[User talk:Crossmr|talk]]) 01:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
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