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== article in CFR journal ==

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137423/raymond-t-odierno/the-us-army-in-a-time-of-transition

Can someone confirm this quotation, please?

"
Where appropriate we will also dedicate active-duty forces, especially those with niche skills and equipment, to provide civilian officials with a robust set of reliable and rapid response options.
"

The troubling quotation is cited at http://worldobserveronline.com/2012/06/08/cfr-u-s-army-chief-of-staff-use-army-for-domestic-enforcement/

Here is a quote from today's BBC on a bus incident on a highway:

"The Ministry of Defence confirmed military personnel were assisting police, at their request, under routine procedure."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-18719962

Such a report simply would not occur in the USA as a matter of law as no such "routine" is legal.


G. Robert Shiplett 02:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

== Date format ==

This article uses a mix of month–day–year date format (e.g., "born September 8, 1954") and day–month–year format (e.g., "...&nbsp;from 3 November 2004 to 1 May 2006"). There is a discussion at '''{{slink|Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers|RfC: What does DATETIES mean for articles on US military personnel?}}''' seeking to clarify which date format should apply to articles such as this. <small>—'''[[User:sroc|sroc]]'''&nbsp;[[User talk:sroc|&#x1F4AC;]]</small> 09:06, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

== Awards ==

I know the general was awarded at least one award not listed at his retirement ceremony (I watched his retirement ceremony). I can't find a source however that mentions the awards (other than the CSPAN video of his retirement ceremony). <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2001:48F8:3024:92E:313E:7DE0:D739:9ABD|2001:48F8:3024:92E:313E:7DE0:D739:9ABD]] ([[User talk:2001:48F8:3024:92E:313E:7DE0:D739:9ABD|talk]]) 18:22, 20 August 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


==Assessment comment==
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This article has maintenance tags dating as early as 2015 and several sections that have no references at all. The fact that they have remained contested for so long is not a good sign. If not addressed soon, I'm going to do a pass on the article and remove any contested material in accordance with [[WP:BLP]]. '''[[User:Mkdw|<span style="color:black;text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px white, -4px -4px 15px white">Mkdw</span>]]''' [[User talk:Mkdw|<sup>''<span style="color: #0B0080;text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px white, -4px -4px 15px white">talk</span>''</sup>]] 05:21, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
This article has maintenance tags dating as early as 2015 and several sections that have no references at all. The fact that they have remained contested for so long is not a good sign. If not addressed soon, I'm going to do a pass on the article and remove any contested material in accordance with [[WP:BLP]]. '''[[User:Mkdw|<span style="color:black;text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px white, -4px -4px 15px white">Mkdw</span>]]''' [[User talk:Mkdw|<sup>''<span style="color: #0B0080;text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px white, -4px -4px 15px white">talk</span>''</sup>]] 05:21, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

:@[[User:Mkdw|Mkdw]], I made a stab at it, removed anything that appeared to be unsourced. There still looks to be quite a bit of puffery. [[User:Valereee|—valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 19:50, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

== Death of General Ray Odierno (USA, Ret.) ==

There are multiple sources online announcing the death of General Ray Odierno (USA, Ret.); there has not been an official press release from the U.S. Department of Defense or U.S. Army but that should be forthcoming. There should be any users (IP or registered Wikipedia) reverting this event. -[[User:Signaleer|Signaleer]] ([[User talk:Signaleer|talk]]) 20:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

:Update, [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/09/raymond-odierno-general-who-commanded-in-iraq-dies-of-cancer/6073946001/ USA Today released an article], announcing Ray Odierno's death. I suspect there will additional news announcements and press releases in the near future. -[[User:Signaleer|Signaleer]] ([[User talk:Signaleer|talk]]) 21:01, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

:::General Odierno announced to the public that he passed on October 8, 2021. -[[User:Signaleer|Signaleer]] ([[User talk:Signaleer|talk]]) 21:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 12:57, 9 February 2024

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There is something weird about this article. I am not allowed to edit the article to add that Ray Odierno is responsible for 80 strong US troops to raid a Turkish military unit of 11 men, in a most disgraceful way, approaching the Turks pretending to be their allies, then capturing them.

This story and that the Americans had to apologize afterwards is recorded in another Wikipedia article as the "hood event".

Why is this comedy?

78.169.153.91 (talk) 21:54, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 21:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 03:59, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

BLP

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This article has maintenance tags dating as early as 2015 and several sections that have no references at all. The fact that they have remained contested for so long is not a good sign. If not addressed soon, I'm going to do a pass on the article and remove any contested material in accordance with WP:BLP. Mkdw talk 05:21, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Mkdw, I made a stab at it, removed anything that appeared to be unsourced. There still looks to be quite a bit of puffery. —valereee (talk) 19:50, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Death of General Ray Odierno (USA, Ret.)

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There are multiple sources online announcing the death of General Ray Odierno (USA, Ret.); there has not been an official press release from the U.S. Department of Defense or U.S. Army but that should be forthcoming. There should be any users (IP or registered Wikipedia) reverting this event. -Signaleer (talk) 20:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Update, USA Today released an article, announcing Ray Odierno's death. I suspect there will additional news announcements and press releases in the near future. -Signaleer (talk) 21:01, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
General Odierno announced to the public that he passed on October 8, 2021. -Signaleer (talk) 21:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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