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why don't you add this website for ruhnama : www.ruhnama.info |
why don't you add this website for ruhnama : www.ruhnama.info |
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it has this book in 4 languages available online! Great resource for Ruhnama |
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Ruhnama -- is that Turkmani for [[Mein Kampf]]? [[User:Cranston lamont|Cranston Lamont]] 21:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC) |
Ruhnama -- is that Turkmani for [[Mein Kampf]]? [[User:Cranston lamont|Cranston Lamont]] 21:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC) |
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== POV Problem == |
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"Ruhnama, (or The Book of the Soul from Arabic: روح rūḥ (soul) and Persian: نامه nāmeh (book)) is Turkmenbashi Saparmurat Niyazov's combination of autobiography, historical fact, and spiritual guidebook". First of all, I am not sure, but is calling him 'Turkembashi' itself a sign of bias, or is this title neutral ? Second, and most importantly, this book is being described as a combination of 2 parts pure fact (autobiography, historical fact) and 1 part, at least presumably, respectable spirituality. This is unacceptable -- that this work contains any significant quantity of historical fact is debatable and if 'historical fact' is not to be removed then at least terms like 'revisionist history', 'historical fiction', etc. should be added in |
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[[User:Mercmisfire|Mercmisfire]] 00:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
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It is not bias to call Saparmurat Niyazov "Turkmenbashi" because he proclaimed himself Turkmenbashi and made sure everyone in Turkmenistan refer to him as Turkmenbashi.Many sources refer to him as Turkmenbashi. It's his title. So it is not POV in regards to wikipedia.[[User:Azn Clayjar|Azn Clayjar]] 15:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC) |
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Turkmenbashi means "head of all Turkmens". That's like Hitler called himself "Führer" (the Leader). <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/147.229.206.67|147.229.206.67]] ([[User talk:147.229.206.67|talk]]) 11:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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No. "The head of all Turkmens" is analogous to Mustafa Kemal called himself "Ataturk" (Father of All Turks). "Fuhrer" simply means chief, and is actually a common title in the Kaiser's army. |
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****Sorry to intrude, but where is the proof that this book has been translated into 41 languages ? |
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I don't think that this statement is reliable. (v.s) |
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Nothing that comes out of those central Asian countries are reliable in terms of data or news from their mouths [[User:Ponyak4|Ponyak4]] ([[User talk:Ponyak4|talk]]) 11:23, 5 April 2019 (UTC) |
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IRIN report on impact of Ruhnama on education, in External links, links at a wrong page. I did not find on the internet the correct one. It's correct to report this issue here? |
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== See also == |
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The "See also" section currently contains references to |
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"Ne Win", |
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"Sinophobia", |
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"Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung", |
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"The Green Book", and |
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"Bibliolatry". |
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The reference to ''Bibliolatry'' is obvious. The ''Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung'' |
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and the ''Green Book'' play a similar role as the ''Ruhnama''. I think that ''Mein Kampf'' |
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would also fit. I don't know whether the Burmese dictator ''Ne Win'' was known |
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for pseudo-literary ambitions; perhaps he was, then his book should be linked to. |
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But why did anybody include the link to ''Sinophobia'' here? That one looks |
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totally out of place. |
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[edit]why don't you add this website for ruhnama : www.ruhnama.info it has this book in 4 languages available online! Great resource for Ruhnama
Yeah, I just followed that link. Good God, Niyazov is a terrible writer. K. Lastochka 16:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- One wonders why dictators don't just focus on enjoying their power. If this story wasn't so incredibly tragic, it would be comic. Valentinian (talk) 00:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- It is comical, in a bitter, sad, Russian-novel sort of way. All the world's a stage, and I think we're all acting in a farce. K. Lastochka 14:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- One wonders why dictators don't just focus on enjoying their power. If this story wasn't so incredibly tragic, it would be comic. Valentinian (talk) 00:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if there have sprung up any followers of the Ruhnama outside of Turkmenistan, stranger belief-systems have occured. 193.216.164.123 17:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Ruhnama -- is that Turkmani for Mein Kampf? Cranston Lamont 21:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
POV Problem
[edit]"Ruhnama, (or The Book of the Soul from Arabic: روح rūḥ (soul) and Persian: نامه nāmeh (book)) is Turkmenbashi Saparmurat Niyazov's combination of autobiography, historical fact, and spiritual guidebook". First of all, I am not sure, but is calling him 'Turkembashi' itself a sign of bias, or is this title neutral ? Second, and most importantly, this book is being described as a combination of 2 parts pure fact (autobiography, historical fact) and 1 part, at least presumably, respectable spirituality. This is unacceptable -- that this work contains any significant quantity of historical fact is debatable and if 'historical fact' is not to be removed then at least terms like 'revisionist history', 'historical fiction', etc. should be added in Mercmisfire 00:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
It is not bias to call Saparmurat Niyazov "Turkmenbashi" because he proclaimed himself Turkmenbashi and made sure everyone in Turkmenistan refer to him as Turkmenbashi.Many sources refer to him as Turkmenbashi. It's his title. So it is not POV in regards to wikipedia.Azn Clayjar 15:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Turkmenbashi means "head of all Turkmens". That's like Hitler called himself "Führer" (the Leader). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.229.206.67 (talk) 11:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
No. "The head of all Turkmens" is analogous to Mustafa Kemal called himself "Ataturk" (Father of All Turks). "Fuhrer" simply means chief, and is actually a common title in the Kaiser's army.
- Sorry to intrude, but where is the proof that this book has been translated into 41 languages ?
I don't think that this statement is reliable. (v.s)
Nothing that comes out of those central Asian countries are reliable in terms of data or news from their mouths Ponyak4 (talk) 11:23, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]IRIN report on impact of Ruhnama on education, in External links, links at a wrong page. I did not find on the internet the correct one. It's correct to report this issue here? Thanks Andrea — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrea Vergnano (talk • contribs) 22:18, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
See also
[edit]The "See also" section currently contains references to "Ne Win", "Sinophobia", "Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung", "The Green Book", and "Bibliolatry". The reference to Bibliolatry is obvious. The Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung and the Green Book play a similar role as the Ruhnama. I think that Mein Kampf would also fit. I don't know whether the Burmese dictator Ne Win was known for pseudo-literary ambitions; perhaps he was, then his book should be linked to. But why did anybody include the link to Sinophobia here? That one looks totally out of place.