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Can anyone provide an IPA pronounciation? [[User:70.104.205.63|70.104.205.63]] 17:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC) |
Can anyone provide an IPA pronounciation? [[User:70.104.205.63|70.104.205.63]] 17:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC) |
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Yes, but Rachel even says "isn't that a kind of sushi?", and Phoebe replies: "yeah, it's a freshwater eel." --[[Special:Contributions/109.60.119.200|109.60.119.200]] ([[User talk:109.60.119.200|talk]]) 21:43, 25 April 2012 (UTC) |
Yes, but Rachel even says "isn't that a kind of sushi?", and Phoebe replies: "yeah, it's a freshwater eel." --[[Special:Contributions/109.60.119.200|109.60.119.200]] ([[User talk:109.60.119.200|talk]]) 21:43, 25 April 2012 (UTC) |
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Then go and edit the rest of Wikipedia then! Right now, to be consistent, this reference should be on here! |
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[[User:FlowerFaerie087|FlowerFaerie087]] ([[User talk:FlowerFaerie087|talk]]) 03:39, 22 February 2015 (UTC) |
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:for what it's worth, i'm on the fence about this. It would obviously fit in a "popular culture" subsection, but I think there needs to be enough materieal to warrant it. Good discussion nonetheless. [[User:Electricmaster|Electricmaster]] ([[User talk:Electricmaster|talk]]) 16:19, 21 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::What would people learn about freshwater eels in Japanese cuisine from such a section? Remember, this is an article about unagi, not about the word 'unagi'. [[User:Sneftel|Sneftel]] ([[User talk:Sneftel|talk]]) 09:50, 30 August 2023 (UTC) |
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== Sustainability == |
== Sustainability == |
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:You make it sound as if the article advocates not eating eel. This isn't really the case. It simply points out that studies have been done by a particular showing this conclusion. If you are aware of some counter point, please include it. However, I'm sure you won't find one, because there is universal agreement that unagi production is unsustainable. <span style="color:#008000;font-family:times, sans serif;">[[User:Djlayton4|DJLayton4]] ([[User talk:Djlayton4|talk]])</span> 00:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC) |
:You make it sound as if the article advocates not eating eel. This isn't really the case. It simply points out that studies have been done by a particular showing this conclusion. If you are aware of some counter point, please include it. However, I'm sure you won't find one, because there is universal agreement that unagi production is unsustainable. <span style="color:#008000;font-family:times, sans serif;">[[User:Djlayton4|DJLayton4]] ([[User talk:Djlayton4|talk]])</span> 00:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Can anyone provide an IPA pronounciation? 70.104.205.63 17:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Unaju not Unadon
[edit]Yes, it is sometimes called unadon when served over rice but it is more often called unaju. The difference is that unadon is served in a circular bowl while an unaju is served usually in laquered box. It is most often served in the laquered boxes since the rectangular pieces of the unagi fit better in the rectangular boxes.
Miyashita 9 Dec 2007
Unaju AND Unadon: Both of these words are used in the Japanese vocabulary, though used in different situations. When served in a circular bowl, a la "donburi" (can be translated as 'rice bowl') it is called, "unadon," a contraction of "unagi" and "donburi." Quite a lot of donburi dishes exist that have been contracted to just "x-don." For example, oyako-don (parent/child [chicken and egg] rice bowl), ten-don (tenpura rice bowl), gyu-don (beef rice bowl), etc. "Unadon" is simply one more "donburi" style rice bowl with unagi on it.
Unaju (うな重) is specifically reserved for unagi served from a square laquer dish. It is usually a lot more unagi than that which is served on donburi, and it is usually much more high-quality, which is why unaju is a lot more expensive. To some Japanese, calling a cheap unagi rice-bowl you buy at a cafeteria (食堂, shokudo) "unaju" is a bit of an overstatement.KogeJoe (talk) 05:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Unakyu
[edit]"Unakyu, is the more common expression used for sushi containing eel."
No, "unakyu" is a contraction of "unagi" and "kyuuri" (窮理, cucumber), which refers specifically to a sushi roll with grilled eel and cucumber in it. Please correct this blatant error.KogeJoe (talk) 05:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
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Friends
[edit]No Friends reference? Ross? Anything like that? "In Popular Culture"? Revan ltrl (talk) 22:12, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Though it may not be a strict encyclopeadic one,I think there should be a refference to Friends. The internet today IS a network of words linked together, and Unagi and Friends do have a link. Anuandraj (talk) 10:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
This page isn't about the word, it's about the thing. Someone looking for information about unagi (that is to say, the eel thing) isn't looking for information about people who've said the word 'unagi' in a television show, they're looking for information about the eel thing. See here for some guidelines about good/bad in-popular-culture references. --Sneftel (talk) 15:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but Rachel even says "isn't that a kind of sushi?", and Phoebe replies: "yeah, it's a freshwater eel." --109.60.119.200 (talk) 21:43, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Then go and edit the rest of Wikipedia then! Right now, to be consistent, this reference should be on here! FlowerFaerie087 (talk) 03:39, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- for what it's worth, i'm on the fence about this. It would obviously fit in a "popular culture" subsection, but I think there needs to be enough materieal to warrant it. Good discussion nonetheless. Electricmaster (talk) 16:19, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- What would people learn about freshwater eels in Japanese cuisine from such a section? Remember, this is an article about unagi, not about the word 'unagi'. Sneftel (talk) 09:50, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Sustainability
[edit]sustainability should go in the aqua culture article. there is no paragraph in the beef article about climate change. it is not encyclopedic in this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.45.200 (talk) 23:23, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- True, eel are aquacultured, but aquaculture itself is not unsustainable. In fact, the fact that eels cannot be raised through their full life cycle makes them increasingly threatened. It is the harvesting of young eels from the wild, specifically for food, which is unsustainable. Therefore, it seems to make much more sense to treat the sustainability issue here rather than at aquaculture, which is a far broader topic. As for the beef article and climate change, that doesn't really have any direct bearing on this article. I think adding a bit on climate change to the beef article would be a beneficial contribution. I don't believe any policy would prevent it, but rather it probably just hasn't been suggested or contributed at this point. If you believe there is a specific Wikipedia policy that would preclude the inclusion of a discussion of sustainability here, please cite it.DJLayton4 (talk) 01:17, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
->This is an article about a specific class of eel dishes served in a certain country. The general concept of eating eels is in the eels/use by humans article, and indeed there is a note there about not eating eels. It is like the difference between the "steak" article and the "eating beef by humans" article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.45.200 (talk) 05:50, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- "Unagi" is simply Japanese for "freshwater eel". As such, the article encompass all freshwater eel dishes in Japan and those that have made it to the west. Japanses eel dishes happen to be the only form in which the majority of Westerners consume eel. The term "unagi" can refer to multiple species. However, all of them are considered over-fished. In fact, they are over-fished specifically because of the sushi industry, where they are always sold as 'unagi'. It actually makes more sense to discuss sustainability here than anywhere else because the sushi dish 'unagi' is what is really unsustainable The term "steak" refers to a particular cut of meat from any number of different animals, so doesn't really compare to unagi, which refers to a set of very closely related species as used in cuisine.
- Please do a google search for the terms "unagi" and then "unagi sustainability". You will notice that the first search yields 600,000 result, while the second yields 100,000. This means that about one sixth of all webpages mentioning 'unagi' also mention 'sustainability'. I'm sorry, but your argument that they don't belong together doesn't really make sense.
- You make it sound as if the article advocates not eating eel. This isn't really the case. It simply points out that studies have been done by a particular showing this conclusion. If you are aware of some counter point, please include it. However, I'm sure you won't find one, because there is universal agreement that unagi production is unsustainable. DJLayton4 (talk) 00:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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