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A fact from Heteromeles appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 November 2004. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that collecting Toyon branches for Christmas became so popular in Los Angeles, California in the 1920s, that the state passed a law forbidding collecting?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2004/November.

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all have Heteromeles pages unlinked --Dignitee (talk) 04:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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-**Breadth:Beyond stub, but needs more on range and ecological significance to approach GA
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-**Based upon the fact that this is a prominent native shrub fairly broadly distributed and associated with many other ecological interactions. [[User:Anlace|Anlace]] 04:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
-Several book excerpts online mention this plant as California holly.  Furthermore, it supposedly is the catalyst for the seasonal mass intoxication of robins.  Anyone have any credible information to offer about this?  [[User:129.120.8.198|129.120.8.198]] 00:46, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
-:While it is certainly correct that the botany books always mention "California holly" as an alternate name, in modern usage it is only "toyon", at least that I've heard. The berries are small, bright red, prominent in December, and the leaves are slightly holly-like, so the name is obvious, even if increasingly obscure. It is also noted in books (and verified by original research) that a small flock of birds can strip the ripe berries from a bush very quickly. Perhaps the robins are more overloaded than drunk, but I haven't seen any studies on this. However I do recall that the local tribes are supposed to have brewed an cider from the cooked berries, so it may have be a natural progression. It may not take much to get a robin tipsy. -[[User:Willmcw|Willmcw]] 10:00, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
-::Agreed with Toyon as the best name to use; "California holly" implies it is a species of holly (''Ilex''), which it isn't - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 23:02, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
-== Christmasberry ==
-An external reference (Collin's, I think) identifies the Christmasberry as ''Photinia arbutifolia'', reinforcing the identification in this article as "Christmas berry" (two words). However, both [[Schinus]] and [[Boxthorn]] claim identity with "Christmas berry". What's the deal here - is this something regional maybe? I am not a botanist; I just tripped over this one in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles]]. [[User:DavidBrooks|David Brooks]] 00:31, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
-==Oh, what a flower==
-Can anybody say what the origin of the word toyon is?  [[User:Trekphiler|<font color="#1034A6"><small>TREKphiler</small></font>]] [[User talk:Trekphiler|<font color="#1034A6"><sup><small>hit me ♠</small> </sup>]]</font> 10:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
-:"Etymology: AmSp, also tollon, prob. < Nahuatl name"[http://www.yourdictionary.com/toyon]--[[User:Curtis Clark|Curtis Clark]] ([[User talk:Curtis Clark|talk]]) 02:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
-::('''very belated''' *whew*) Thanx.  [[User:Trekphiler|<font color="#1034A6"><small>TREKphiler</small></font>]] [[User talk:Trekphiler|<font color="#1034A6"><sup><small>any time you're ready, Uhura</small> </sup>]]</font> 02:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
+== Link it to other wiki languages, i don't know what's wrong ==
-==Toyon berries?==
-The berries in the photo look suspiciously like rowan berries. Is everyone sure this is really toyon? If you search for "toyon" on the Internet, the images that come up look slightly different. I am not a botanist, but even the leaves of the plant in the main picture look different from the leaves in the "Toyon berries" picture. Just wondering.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/199.89.103.13|199.89.103.13]] ([[User talk:199.89.103.13|talk]]) 01:24, 15 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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-:Good catch! Yes, that does look like ''Sorbus''. I wonder if it was the rootstock of a grafted tree whose top had died. i've removed the image, since I don't see a good substitute. [[User:Nadiatalent|Nadiatalent]] ([[User talk:Nadiatalent|talk]]) 13:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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+all have Heteromeles pages unlinked --[[User:Dignitee|Dignitee]] ([[User talk:Dignitee|talk]]) 04:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
-::[[:File:Starr 021126-0031 Heteromeles arbutifolia.jpg]]: This file does not look like Heteromeles arbutifolia to me. The leaves are not serrated for one thing, and the berries are all wrong. If anyone thinks differently let me know, otherwise I'll post a note on the file's discussion page. &nbsp; <b>[[User:Will Beback|<font color="#595454">Will Beback</font>]]&nbsp; [[User talk:Will Beback|<font color="#C0C0C0">talk</font>]]&nbsp; </b> 20:21, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
-:::The above image is definitely not ''H. arbuitfolia''!  Good catch.  --[[User:NoahElhardt|NoahElhardt]] ([[User talk:NoahElhardt|talk]]) 04:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
-::::Strangely, it's identified on the source as ''Photinia davidiana'' Photinia.[http://www.hear.org/starr/images/image/?q=021126-0031&o=plants]  Either the identification was fixed, or there was a mistake in the uploading process. &nbsp; <b>[[User:Will Beback|<font color="#595454">Will Beback</font>]]&nbsp; [[User talk:Will Beback|<font color="#C0C0C0">talk</font>]]&nbsp; </b> 06:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)