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Graphical Family Tree

FYI I uploaded a family tree created using Visio at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Big_love_familytree.jpg . I'm new to Wikipedia, rather than trying to edit the page thought I'd just alert the primary author of the page.

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The WikiProject Television list this article as being a Start-Class article of Low Importance. This may have been true when the article was first started, but I suggest this should be updated. The article seems to be relatively well written with a lot of information about the show and several citations. The show itself is controversial ( http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102119413 ) ( http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705289746,00.html ), noteworthy ( http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99136553 ) ( http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5254017 ), and entertaining ( http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b82445_big_love_season_four_go.html ). AJseagull1 (talk) 04:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Grant deceased?

Roman Grant is a very tricky man, and we've thought him a goner at least twice before. Can we really call him deceased just because he was strangled at the end of the season finale? I think in the least, there should be a footnote noting that it's possible he's alive. --Crushti (talk) 15:08, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since there's no discussion, I'm removing that he is deceased. If you feel strongly enough that he should be counted as deceased, please discuss it. Also, I suspect that next week we will know whether he is deceased or not. --Crushti (talk) 04:43, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Roman is now conclusively established as deceased, of course. End of that discussion! -Etoile (talk) 04:17, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Season 4

I removed the following text because it refers only to events in the Season 3 finale:

Big Love's new season will find Bill declaring the formation of his own church, Joey suffocating Roman to avenge his wife Kathy's death, Barb being excommunicated from the Mormon Church, and Nicki reuniting with daughter Cara Lynn.

- Tortorelli —Preceding undated comment added 20:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC).[reply]

I think it would be notable to mention in season 4 section is the change in the opening credits. What is the new song? --24.119.32.80 (talk) 23:50, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind. Didn't see it was in the overview. Maybe we could mention though something in the season 4 section about the opening credit change.--24.119.32.80 (talk) 23:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can the expression "goes into a rant" please be translated into English.

Update Family Tree

Family tree needs to have the following added: Ted Price, Barb's brother-in-law (married to Cindy); Ned Johanssen, Barb's step-father (married to Nancy). I would do it, but don't know how to add people to this type of tree, so someone with knowledge of how this type of tree works here will have to give it a go. Thanks! --SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 19:28, 6 February 2010 (UTC) Additionally, Adaleen was "sealed" to "JJ" causing a need to amend the Tree. "JJ"'s parents, The Walkers, were introduced but I am not sure if there First Names were mentioned. If they were mentioned, they should be added[reply]

Agreed, and it would be nice to have an explanation of the colors as well! -Etoile (talk) 04:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nikki and Margene's children by Bill retain their mother's last name. This is the case when the children are not from the father and the civil, legal wife. This is also why Bill is a Henrickson as opposed to a Harlow, since Lois is not the legal wife when Bill is born (she is the legal wife now). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.127.168.166 (talk) 12:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually that is not true. In the episode were Wayne is going to the Catholic school he is referred to as Wayne Hendrickson and Nicky is called Mrs. Henrickson. Just because they were not a legal wife does not mean that the children will go by their mothers last names. Lois probably gave Bill and Joey the last name Hendrickson because of the connection to her father the prophet instead of a man her family felt was not worthy of her. In real life that is not the case either. One good example of this is Warren Jeffs. His mother was not the first wife of his father-he would have been called Warren Steed if that were the case — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.127.106 (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the family tree: made it more vertically oriented. The maximum width is fifty parameters, and we were hitting that. I also added a key. Hopefully those categories make sense. There's not a good way to have separate line types for "former plural marriage" and "former traditional marriage," so I figured just "former marriage" was enough. Also, I made the variable names for the relatives all 5 characters, because this makes it much easier to line up the chart parameters correctly. Does anyone know why the Joey/Wanda family boxes are colored green, or have thoughts about whether to keep them green? 76.24.22.233 (talk) 02:26, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I opened the family tree per wp:HIDDEN, which says not to hide sections of articles, only cells within tables and within sidebar infoboxes (or else, of course, bottom-of-page navigation-aid banners).--Hodgson-Burnett's Secret Garden (talk) 21:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Number of episode

Why was the change to the number of episodes undone?

There are 43 episodes in total now (see the episode list), 12 each in seasons 1 & 2, 10 in season 3 and 9 in season 4, 12+12+10+9=43. The page is showing as only 40 episodes total which is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.14.139 (talk) 12:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Part of the problem is that you are editing as an IP address and not a registered user. The other part of the problem is that you changed the number of episodes without a notation as to why in the edit summary. Another thing is that you provided no reference with the change. All of the above looks to me (and probably others) like possible vandalism of the article. It's a good idea - if you plan to stay a while editing in Wikipedia - to register yourself on WP with a username. When you do so, other editors will take you more seriously. Another good idea is for you to put something in the edit summary that briefly explains why you made the change/edit you did (or a brief synopsis of what the edit was). If you have a reference to include that states there were 43, not 40, episodes - it would be good to include that, too. Then, the info you change/provide is verifiable and will likely not be changed again or challenged. Thanks. --SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 04:15, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is meant to be edited by anyone. The tone of your response, from my perspective, to this user is rude and "very Lucy van Pelt", and I encourage you from this point on to come across as a coach and suggest, with method and example, how to amend the statement to a "particular standard" instead of taking about the negative approach. My advice is based on my opinion of reading both statements and coming to a conclusion. And that's all it is. As far as the information presented was changed . . . the change was correct and all a Wikipedian or guest user needed to do was the simple math equation presented and come to the same conclusion. I encourage nobody to go to an extreme as you have suggested. Such a method doesn't work and will chase away people from editing articles in general at Wikipedia. Again, my advice based from my own opinion is to be a coach and lead by method and example and to not be "Lucy van Pelt" about it. Sierraoffline444 (talk) 06:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Motion seconded. Apple8800 (talk) 23:47, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tilted Overview

The Overview needs an overhaul. Currently, 4 of the 6 sentences in the Overview are about the fricking music in the show.

From Talk:Big Love/Comments

The following was originally posted to From Talk:Big Love/Comments, but should have been added here instead, so moved. Could not put in approximate chronological order, as that time-period for this talk page has already been archived. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 16:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC) [reply]

The section on Mormon Reception is not neutral. It should be amended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.85.247.241 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 17 March 2009

It would have been nice for the commenter to be a little more specific. POV in what manner? Favorably in regard to the LDS Church or unfavorably? The section is specifically about the negative response from the LDS Church and directly quotes their position. I really don't see how it can get more NPOV since it's the LDS Church that's being quoted. Lhb1239 (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Needed additions to ancestry chart

Hi. I noticed that there are a couple of needed additions to the ancestry chart for the Henrickson children. In the finale, Sarah and Scott have a child, named after Sarah's father, William Orville. William Orville Quittman should be added there. Also seen in the finale is Heather Tuttle who is now married to Ben Henrickson. I am unable to figure out how to add these to the chart as it appears complicated and out of my abilities. Hopefully someone who watches and edits this page can make the change. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alaska4Me2 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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-The WikiProject Television list this article as being a Start-Class article of Low Importance. This may have been true when the article was first started, but I suggest this should be updated. The article seems to be relatively well written with a lot of information about the show and several citations. The show itself is controversial <ref>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102119413</ref> <ref>http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705289746,00.html</ref>, noteworthy<ref>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99136553</ref> <ref> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5254017 </ref>, and entertaining<ref>http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b82445_big_love_season_four_go.html</ref>. [[User:AJseagull1|AJseagull1]] ([[User talk:AJseagull1|talk]]) 04:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
+The WikiProject Television list this article as being a Start-Class article of Low Importance. This may have been true when the article was first started, but I suggest this should be updated. The article seems to be relatively well written with a lot of information about the show and several citations. The show itself is controversial ( http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102119413 ) ( http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705289746,00.html ), noteworthy ( http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99136553 ) ( http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5254017 ), and entertaining ( http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b82445_big_love_season_four_go.html ). [[User:AJseagull1|AJseagull1]] ([[User talk:AJseagull1|talk]]) 04:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
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 :: Nevermind. Didn't see it was in the overview. Maybe we could mention though something in the season 4 section about the opening credit change.--[[Special:Contributions/24.119.32.80|24.119.32.80]] ([[User talk:24.119.32.80|talk]]) 23:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
+:::Can the expression "goes into a rant" please be translated into English.
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 Nikki and Margene's children by Bill retain their mother's last name. This is the case when the children are not from the father and the civil, legal wife. This is also why Bill is a Henrickson as opposed to a Harlow, since Lois is not the legal wife when Bill is born (she is the legal wife now).  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/77.127.168.166|77.127.168.166]] ([[User talk:77.127.168.166|talk]]) 12:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+Actually that is not true. In the episode were Wayne is going to the Catholic school he is referred to as Wayne Hendrickson and Nicky is called Mrs. Henrickson. Just because they were not a legal wife does not mean that the children will go by their mothers last names. Lois probably gave Bill and Joey the last name Hendrickson because of the connection to her father the prophet instead of a man her family felt was not worthy of her. In real life that is not the case either. One good example of this is Warren Jeffs. His mother was not the first wife of his father-he would have been called Warren Steed if that were the case  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.77.127.106|74.77.127.106]] ([[User talk:74.77.127.106|talk]]) 15:41, 3 April 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 I updated the family tree: made it more vertically oriented. The maximum width is fifty parameters, and we were hitting that. I also added a key. Hopefully those categories make sense. There's not a good way to have separate line types for "former plural marriage" and "former traditional marriage," so I figured just "former marriage" was enough. Also, I made the variable names for the relatives all 5 characters, because this makes it much easier to line up the chart parameters correctly. Does anyone know why the Joey/Wanda family boxes are colored green, or have thoughts about whether to keep them green? [[Special:Contributions/76.24.22.233|76.24.22.233]] ([[User talk:76.24.22.233|talk]]) 02:26, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
+* '''Comment''' - I opened the family tree per [[wp:HIDDEN]], which says not to hide sections of articles, only cells within tables and within sidebar infoboxes (or else, of course, bottom-of-page navigation-aid banners).--[[User:Hodgson-Burnett&#39;s Secret Garden|Hodgson-Burnett&#39;s Secret Garden]] ([[User talk:Hodgson-Burnett&#39;s Secret Garden|talk]]) 21:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
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 The Overview needs an overhaul.  Currently, 4 of the 6 sentences in the Overview are about the fricking music in the show.
+== From Talk:Big Love/Comments ==
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+The section on Mormon Reception is not neutral. It should be amended. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:24.85.247.241|24.85.247.241]] ([[User talk:24.85.247.241|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.85.247.241|contribs]]) 19:25, 17 March 2009</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
+::It would have been nice for the commenter to be a little more specific.  POV in what manner?  Favorably in regard to the LDS Church or unfavorably?  The section is specifically about the negative response from the LDS Church and directly quotes their position.  I really don't see how it can get more NPOV since it's the LDS Church that's being quoted. [[User:Lhb1239|Lhb1239]] ([[User talk:Lhb1239|talk]]) 17:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
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+== Needed additions to ancestry chart ==
+Hi.  I noticed that there are a couple of needed additions to the ancestry chart for the Henrickson children.  In the finale, Sarah and Scott have a child, named after Sarah's father, William Orville.  William Orville Quittman should be added there.  Also seen in the finale is Heather Tuttle who is now married to Ben Henrickson.  I am unable to figure out how to add these to the chart as it appears complicated and out of my abilities.  Hopefully someone who watches and edits this page can make the change.  Thank you.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Alaska4Me2|Alaska4Me2]] ([[User talk:Alaska4Me2#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alaska4Me2|contribs]]) 19:24, 3 August 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->