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{{DYK talk|7 March|2006|entry=...that [[NKVD]] official '''[[Yakov Blumkin]]''' organised and personally took part in an expedition to find the [[Shambhala]], a mystical kingdom hidden in the [[Himalaya]]s?}} |
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The [[Elizabeth Zubilin]] article indictes the two were actually married and had a long term relationship. No mention of her being "sent to seduce" him. Which version is correct? --[[User:KNHaw|KNHaw]] 01:24, 7 March 2006 (UTC) |
The [[Elizabeth Zubilin]] article indictes the two were actually married and had a long term relationship. No mention of her being "sent to seduce" him. Which version is correct? --[[User:KNHaw|KNHaw]] 01:24, 7 March 2006 (UTC) |
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== Миф об участии Я.Блюмкина в Центрально-Азиатской экспедиции Н.К.Рериха == |
== Миф об участии Я.Блюмкина в Центрально-Азиатской экспедиции Н.К.Рериха == |
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В книге Олега Шишкина "Битва за Гималаи" утверждается, что Блюмкин под видом буддийского монаха поехал в [[Тибет]], где сопровождал экспедицию [[Рёрих, Николай Константинович|Н. Рериха]] в княжество Ладакх в [[Тибет]]е под видом паломника и ламы. Лишь в конце экспедиции «лама» вдруг заговорил по-русски. |
В книге Олега Шишкина "Битва за Гималаи" утверждается, что Блюмкин под видом буддийского монаха поехал в [[Тибет]], где сопровождал экспедицию [[Рёрих, Николай Константинович|Н. Рериха]] в княжество Ладакх в [[Тибет]]е под видом паломника и ламы. Лишь в конце экспедиции «лама» вдруг заговорил по-русски. |
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[http://www.roerich-museum.ru/sbt1/sbt1gl5_11.htm - А.В. Стеценко. Клевещите, клевещите, что-нибудь да останется.]<br> |
[http://www.roerich-museum.ru/sbt1/sbt1gl5_11.htm - А.В. Стеценко. Клевещите, клевещите, что-нибудь да останется.]<br> |
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[http://www.roerich-museum.ru/rus/protection/facts_a_fictions/index.php - Факты и домыслы о Рерихах.] Материалы на сайте Международного Центра-Музея имени Н.К.Рериха.<br> |
[http://www.roerich-museum.ru/rus/protection/facts_a_fictions/index.php - Факты и домыслы о Рерихах.] Материалы на сайте Международного Центра-Музея имени Н.К.Рериха.<br> |
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[http://www.yro.narod.ru/zaschitim/ogpu.htm - Николай Рерих не был агентом ОГПУ.] Материалы на сайте Ярославского Рериховского общества<br> |
[http://www.yro.narod.ru/zaschitim/ogpu.htm - Николай Рерих не был агентом ОГПУ.] Материалы на сайте Ярославского Рериховского общества<br> |
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::'''Suggest''' This section should be moved to the Russian discussion page. --[[User:Appleuseryu|Appleuseryu]] ([[User talk:Appleuseryu|talk]]) 16:56, 28 June 2016 (UTC) |
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In book Olega SHishkina "Battle for Himalayas" becomes firmly established that Blyumkin under type буддийского monk has gone to [[Tibet]], where accompanied the expedition N. Reriha in principality Ladakh in Tibete under type of the pilgrim and lamas. Only at the end to expeditions lama has suddenly spoken in russian. |
In book Olega SHishkina "Battle for Himalayas" becomes firmly established that Blyumkin under type буддийского monk has gone to [[Tibet]], where accompanied the expedition N. Reriha in principality Ladakh in Tibete under type of the pilgrim and lamas. Only at the end to expeditions lama has suddenly spoken in russian. |
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The sentence "In 1924, the OGPU made Blumkin an [[illegal resident]] in the Arab peninsula." is at odds with every statement that follows. In addition the link to "illegal immigration" is a red herring and the reference to "Arab peninsula" is poor diction. I removed it rather than trying to patch up these problems.[[User:Zeno Cosini~enwiki|Zeno Cosini~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Zeno Cosini~enwiki|talk]]) 07:47, 8 April 2022 (UTC) |
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Coordinate with Zubilin article
[edit]The Elizabeth Zubilin article indictes the two were actually married and had a long term relationship. No mention of her being "sent to seduce" him. Which version is correct? --KNHaw 01:24, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Orlov (Secret History) says that Yagoda ordered Zubilin to seduce Blumkin in Moscow. Andrew (Mitrokhin Archive) says that Trilisser, Yagoda's deputy, arranged an early version of what was known as the "honey pot," and had her sent to Turkey for the seduction. Both authors agree she was encouraged to "abandon bourgeois predjudices" and seduce Blumkin. Neither speaks of a marriage. The Zubilin article needs a re-write...
But then again, Sudoplatov in his recent memoir, tells a different story. So waddaya gonna do?
Миф об участии Я.Блюмкина в Центрально-Азиатской экспедиции Н.К.Рериха
[edit]В книге Олега Шишкина "Битва за Гималаи" утверждается, что Блюмкин под видом буддийского монаха поехал в Тибет, где сопровождал экспедицию Н. Рериха в княжество Ладакх в Тибете под видом паломника и ламы. Лишь в конце экспедиции «лама» вдруг заговорил по-русски.
Однако, документы из секретных архивов разведки опровергают как факт пребывания Блюмкина в экспедиции Н.К.Рериха, так и утверждение О.Шишкина о связи Н.К.Рериха с ОГПУ. Руководитель пресс-бюро Службы внешней разведки России Ю.Кабаладзе неоднократно в своих выступлениях в СМИ утверждал:
"По сведениям службы внешней разведки и по документам Блюмкин не был в экспедиции Рериха. Автор путает даты и экспедиции."
(Дардыкина Н. Мертвые сраму не имут// Московский Комсомолец. 14 января 1995 г.)
См.информацию на эту тему:
- Александр Шальнев. Николай Рерих не был агентом ОГПУ. Свидетельствуют документы из секретных архивов разведки.
- Людмила Шапошникова. Николай Рерих - мыслитель или шпион?
- А.В. Стеценко. Клевещите, клевещите, что-нибудь да останется.
- Факты и домыслы о Рерихах. Материалы на сайте Международного Центра-Музея имени Н.К.Рериха.
- Николай Рерих не был агентом ОГПУ. Материалы на сайте Ярославского Рериховского общества
- Suggest This section should be moved to the Russian discussion page. --Appleuseryu (talk) 16:56, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Myth about participation YA.BLYUMKINA in Central-Asiatic expedition N.K.RERIH S
[edit]In book Olega SHishkina "Battle for Himalayas" becomes firmly established that Blyumkin under type буддийского monk has gone to Tibet, where accompanied the expedition N. Reriha in principality Ladakh in Tibete under type of the pilgrim and lamas. Only at the end to expeditions lama has suddenly spoken in russian.
However, the documents from secret archive of the exploring refuse both fact of stay Blyumkina in expeditions N.K.RERIHS, and statement O.SHISHKINA about relationship N.K.RERIH with OGPU. The Leader press-agency of the Service of the external exploring to Russia YU.KABALADZE repeatedly in their own appearances in SMI confirmed:
"On information of the service of the external exploring and on the document
Blyumkin was not in expeditions Rerih. The Author muddles the date and expeditions."
(Dardykina N. Dead shame does not имут// Moscow Member of komsomol. the January 14 1995.)
См.информацию на эту тему:
- Александр Шальнев. Николай Рерих не был агентом ОГПУ. Свидетельствуют документы из секретных архивов разведки.
- Людмила Шапошникова. Николай Рерих - мыслитель или шпион?
- А.В. Стеценко. Клевещите, клевещите, что-нибудь да останется.
- Факты и домыслы о Рерихах. Материалы на сайте Международного Центра-Музея имени Н.К.Рериха.
- Николай Рерих не был агентом ОГПУ. Материалы на сайте Ярославского Рериховского общества
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[edit]The sentence "In 1924, the OGPU made Blumkin an illegal resident in the Arab peninsula." is at odds with every statement that follows. In addition the link to "illegal immigration" is a red herring and the reference to "Arab peninsula" is poor diction. I removed it rather than trying to patch up these problems.Zeno Cosini~enwiki (talk) 07:47, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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