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I know it may be entirely incidental and not really important, but the handgun looks incredibly similar in its design to PYa Grach (MP443), and uses freely rotating barrel locking, like PYa's competitor GSh-18. And it was developed simultaneously with these pistols (trial started 1993, QSZ "began development" in 1994).

I may be wrong, but knowing Chinese inclination to not invent something that's already there, it looks like a case of industrial espionage (especially considering the ease that gov. secrets could be obtained in Russia in early 90s). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.195.41.202 (talk) 15:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The second source in the article http://pewpewpew.work/china/handgun/qsz92/qsz92.htm (note: in Chinese), actually has a very detailed record on the development process of the pistol. Type 92 started development in 1987 and in 1994 it has five different prototypes with four different types of firing mechanism. Ignoring your prejudice and bias, the external and internal design of MP443 and QSZ-92 is apparently different if you look at the actual locking mechanism. You can check QSZ-92's mechanism at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzvcyXmlZxQ. ----Loned (talk) 22:43, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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+I know it may be entirely incidental and not really important, but the handgun looks incredibly similar in its design to PYa Grach (MP443), and uses freely rotating barrel locking, like PYa's competitor GSh-18. And it was developed simultaneously with these pistols (trial started 1993, QSZ "began development" in 1994).
+I may be wrong, but knowing Chinese inclination to not invent something that's already there, it looks like a case of industrial espionage (especially considering the ease that gov. secrets could be obtained in Russia in early 90s).  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/176.195.41.202|176.195.41.202]] ([[User talk:176.195.41.202|talk]]) 15:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+: The second source in the article http://pewpewpew.work/china/handgun/qsz92/qsz92.htm (note: in Chinese), actually has a very detailed record on the development process of the pistol. Type 92 started development in 1987 and in 1994 it has five different prototypes with four different types of firing mechanism. Ignoring your prejudice and bias, the external and internal design of MP443 and QSZ-92 is apparently different if you look at the actual locking mechanism. You can check QSZ-92's mechanism at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzvcyXmlZxQ. ----[[User:Loned|Loned]] ([[User talk:Loned|talk]]) 22:43, 3 April 2021 (UTC)