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It appears that two different pages about two different organisations with similar names have been merged. Socialist Resistance of Kazakhstan was an affiliate of ISA and is what the article is about but the name and the website are from a separate organisation. User talk:CentreLeftRight Vahvistus (talk) 22:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Social Resistance and Socialist Movement are the same organisation

The Russian Wikipedia has better information on this organisation. I have found no primary sources or secondary sources where they claim to be Trotskyist or Marxist-Leninist, but they were affiliated with a Trotskyist international until 2016, and then the predominantly Marxist-Leninist IMCWP after 2016. CentreLeftRight ✉ 22:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also upholding Lenin does not equal upholding Marxism-Leninism as Trotsky himself claimed to uphold Lenin. CentreLeftRight ✉ 22:16, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All sources seem to be self-referential

Like most of the sources are also the organization writing about itself, which looks like extremely dubious behavior. Ion Rokavebić (talk) 02:31, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Something has gone wrong ==
+It appears that two different pages about two different organisations with similar names have been merged.  Socialist Resistance of Kazakhstan was an affiliate of ISA and is what the article is about but the name and the website are from a separate organisation. [[User talk:CentreLeftRight]] [[User:Vahvistus|Vahvistus]] ([[User talk:Vahvistus|talk]]) 22:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC).
+== Social Resistance and Socialist Movement are the same organisation ==
+The Russian Wikipedia has better information on this organisation. I have found no primary sources or secondary sources where they claim to be Trotskyist or Marxist-Leninist, but they were affiliated with a Trotskyist international until 2016, and then the predominantly Marxist-Leninist IMCWP after 2016. [[User:CentreLeftRight|<span style="font-family:ar julian; color:#E06666">Centre</span><span style="font-family:ar julian; color:#F4A460">Left</span><span style="font-family:ar julian; color:#6495ED">Right</span>]] [[User talk:CentreLeftRight|✉]] 22:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
+:Also upholding Lenin does not equal upholding Marxism-Leninism as Trotsky himself claimed to uphold Lenin. [[User:CentreLeftRight|<span style="font-family:ar julian; color:#E06666">Centre</span><span style="font-family:ar julian; color:#F4A460">Left</span><span style="font-family:ar julian; color:#6495ED">Right</span>]] [[User talk:CentreLeftRight|✉]] 22:16, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
+== All sources seem to be self-referential ==
+Like most of the sources are also the organization writing about itself, which looks like extremely dubious behavior. [[User:Ion Rokavebić|Ion Rokavebić]] ([[User talk:Ion Rokavebić|talk]]) 02:31, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
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+You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —[[User:Community Tech bot|Community Tech bot]] ([[User talk:Community Tech bot|talk]]) 22:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)