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== External links modified ==
==PoV allegation==
It is obvious this article is biased and written by a fan or a group of people affiliated with the man discussed. Therefore the POV tag has been added.

:It is more obvious that this ongoing slagging of the individual is being conducted by the group (www.russianmartialart.com) wishing to defame him. It's obvious they're disputing this literal history in order try and somehow discredit the individual in question, as they have an obvious history of doing so just be doing a google search. {{unsigned|B-ham}}

:Please do not speculate on other editors' motives, see [[WP:AGF]] and [[WP:NPA]]. The article reads like an advertisement, and quotes exactly zero external verifiable sources for any of this. It needs to establish the [[WP:N|notability]] of the subject using [[WP:V|verifiable]] [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. And the adspeak has to go... I tagged it with a couple of cleanup tags to show the article is work in progress; that should give the article a bit of time so we can see if there is any hope it can be improved. [[User:Weregerbil|Weregerbil]] 06:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

:False, I originally wrote the article (but it looks like it was originally deleted and recreated since I last checked) and I'm not affiliated nor a major fan (though I do like some of his ideas). I mean honestly, you don't accuse fans of Shakespeare for writing the Shakespear article. Furthermore, anyone can edit in criticism. [[User:Tyciol|Tyciol]] 20:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Student of Systema? ==

The article says he studied under Alexey Kadochnikov, the founder of Kadochnikov Systema, therefore implying that he studied Kadochnikov Systema, and yet Sonnon '''himself''' says in [http://www.themartialist.com/pecom/softwork.htm this] interview: "''have no idea what any "Systema’ teaches and, frankly, I don't care''" therefore he didn't study systema. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/70.17.135.140|70.17.135.140]] ([[User talk:70.17.135.140|talk]]) 04:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->


Hello fellow Wikipedians,
:When Sonnon says this he is referring to [[Ryabko's Systema]]. He also makes it clear in the article that he in fact trained [[ROSS]]; which as we all know branched out from [[Kadochnikov Systema]]. The point he is trying to make is that his work is unique. However, the fact still remains he has a connection to Systema. --[[User:Mista-X|Mista-X]] 03:02, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


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== Is it propaganda? ==
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20090805094644/http://www.petawilson.info:80/lang-en/news/93-peta-gets-ready-for-roles-with-help-of-scott-sonnon to http://www.petawilson.info/lang-en/news/93-peta-gets-ready-for-roles-with-help-of-scott-sonnon
I do not like the article about mr. Sonnon. IMHO I think wikipedia is paying too much honor and fame to a normal guy. He is not an Olympic athlete, a famous actor, a scientist, a war hero. He is just a martial trainer...
--[[User:jackjack|jackjack]] 20:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
: A normal guy? He's a world champion in two different martial arts, a multiple time USA National Team Coach, multiple time author, producer, Ultimate Fighting Championship conditioning and sport psychology coach, an inventor with multiple patents in strength equipment, a prolific publisher featured in many magazines and covers, an inductee into the martial art hall of fame and the fitness hall of fame. That's hardly normal. --[[User:B-ham|B-ham]] 1 November 2007 (UTC)


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::All of those things may be true, but the [[WP:N|notability]] criteria here requires [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to substantiate those claims ... find some citations '''independent''' of the subject's own website, ''i.e.'', from responsible, main-stream publications ... see [[Wikipedia:No original research]] and [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]] if you are unclear about the concept of [[WP:A|Attribution]] ... Happy Editing! &mdash;{{User|72.75.79.128}} 21:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


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::: The references above did indeed have independent literary sources cited in the wiki before it was blotted out. I understand (now) that attribution must be independent of the wiki topic, but not only were those points erased, but all points even those with properly [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]]. Can it be repaired? --[[User:B-ham|B-ham]] 1 November 2007 (UTC)


Cheers.—[[User:Cyberbot II|<sup style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot II</sup>]]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Cyberbot II|<span style="color:green">Talk to my owner</span>]]:Online</sub></small> 05:47, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
==MENSA==
The source on this is from the subject's website; so a better source is needed. --[[User:Mista-X|Mista-X]] ([[User talk:Mista-X|talk]]) 04:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


== External links modified ==
I deleted all non-sourced claims, including the MENSA reference. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.89.255.141|76.89.255.141]]
([[User talk:76.89.255.141|talk]]) 07:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I deleted the MENSA reference yet again. Why is this non-sourced information being added? Who is editing this page?[[User:MMAEditing|MMAEditing]] ([[User talk:MMAEditing|talk]]) 09:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


I have just modified 2 external links on [[Scott Sonnon]]. Please take a moment to review [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=759722683 my edit]. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit [[User:Cyberpower678/FaQs#InternetArchiveBot|this simple FaQ]] for additional information. I made the following changes:
== Mensa ==
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20111003231126/http://www.evliving.com/2008/11/23/free-to-move-scott-sonnon/ to http://www.evliving.com/2008/11/23/free-to-move-scott-sonnon/
The Mensa reference has been readded with an improved, third-party reference. [[User:Nobody of Consequence|Nobody of Consequence]] ([[User talk:Nobody of Consequence|talk]]) 22:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
*Added {{tlx|dead link}} tag to http://www.personaltrainerhalloffame.com/member_profile.php?uid=518&value=1
[[Category:Place of birth missing (living people)]]
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070927202526/http://www.usadojo.com/biographies/scott-sonnon.htm to http://www.usadojo.com/biographies/scott-sonnon.htm


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== Sonnon's master of sport ==


Cheers.—[[User:InternetArchiveBot|'''<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">InternetArchiveBot</span>''']] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">([[User talk:InternetArchiveBot|Report bug]])</span> 20:43, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Russkisambofederation, Sonnon's own site says Honourable Master of Sport, which was awarded by the AASF. If you have information that proves the contrary over this, please present it before undoing my revisions with seemingly no forethought. [[User:HolJah|HolJah]] ([[User talk:HolJah|talk]]) 03:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

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