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-==Assessment==
-I have assessed this as a Stub class, mainly because I do not quite feel that it satisfies the requirements for a Start Class. If it were properly referenced and written, it might pass for Start with a little extra expansion. Similarly, I gave it low priority, because I do not feel that many readers would be familiar with her, despite the fact that is the oldest Canadian ever. Cheers, [[User:Canadian Paul|CP]] 02:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
-==Fair use rationale for Image:Marie-Louise Meilleur.jpg==
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-'''[[:Image:Marie-Louise Meilleur.jpg]]''' is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]] but there is no [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline|explanation or rationale]] as to why its use in '''this''' Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Fair use|boilerplate fair use template]], you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with [[WP:FU|fair use]].
-Please go to [[:Image:Marie-Louise Meilleur.jpg|the image description page]] and edit it to include a [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline |fair use rationale]]. Using one of the templates at [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline]] is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
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-[[User:BetacommandBot|BetacommandBot]] ([[User talk:BetacommandBot|talk]]) 14:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
-== How many grandchildren? ==
-The various news sources give the number of children as 10 and the number of grandchildren as 75 or 85.  This means that each of Marie-Louise's 10 children would have had to *average* 7.5 or 8.5 children, and presumably also that this number would be alive in 1998, when Marie-Louise died.  I can find no source that comments on this extraordinary productivity, nor details the number of children had by each of her children, though there are sources that name the children and their spouses and birth/death dates. [[User:Eleanorba|Eleanorba]] ([[User talk:Eleanorba|talk]]) 14:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
-I don't have any idea, but just to say that families that large were not unusual until maybe a generation ago (maybe 2) in Quebec and other French Cdn Catholic families. I still know people who had 10 siblings.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.180.217.113|173.180.217.113]] ([[User talk:173.180.217.113|talk]]) 18:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-== Notability ==
-This person has held the title of oldest living person, is the oldest Canadian and is the fifth oldest person ever. [[User:Valoem|<b style="color: DarkSlateGray;">Valoem</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Valoem|<b style="color: blue;">talk</b>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Valoem|<b style="color: Green;">contrib</b>]]</sup> 18:14, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
-== Merge ==
-My BOLD merge was undone, as explained in the section above. I still think this is an optimal merge candidate. This is about as much information as exists on the subject, and it adds up to only a couple short paragraphs. There is enough interest in her that there's a bit more than [[WP:ROUTINE|routine]] coverage, but not very much, and a significant amount of that information is related to her nationality as Canada's longest-lived person. Therefore, putting it in a list format is not eliminating, but merely consolidating, that information. Furthermore, without her entry [[List of Canadian supercentenarians]] is fairly empty, so our readers would get to both Meilleur ''and'' additional information on longevity. [[User:The Blade of the Northern Lights|The Blade of the Northern Lights]] ([[User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights#top|<span style="font-family: MS Mincho; color: black;">話して下さい</span>]]) 02:17, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
-:I support re-merging this woman's article to the Canadian list with a mini-bio, per the nominators succinct explanation. [[User:Newshunter12|Newshunter12]] ([[User talk:Newshunter12|talk]]) 00:55, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-:The merge was appropriate. As one of the longest-lived humans ever documented, Ms. Meilleur was clearly more notable than "run-of-the-mill" people aged 110+, however the very limited facts available about her life do not warrant a separate article, per [[WP:PAGEDECIDE]]. Indeed, a couple paragraphs in the list of oldest Canadians, along with a redirect from her name, are the best way to represent her in the encyclopedia for the benefit of readers. — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 06:50, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-::Additionally, the full list of her non-notable children in the articles's infobox is likely an undesirable invasion of privacy for her family. That information should not be kept in the merged version: just say she had 12 children and 85 grandchildren (later generations are frankly irrelevant fancruft). — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 06:55, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-:::As per [[Template:Infobox person]] Children should be listed/named "Only if independently notable themselves or particularly relevant." So on that basis I'm removing them from this article. [[User:DerbyCountyinNZ|<span style="background:orange; color:blue">DerbyCountyinNZ</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:DerbyCountyinNZ|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/DerbyCountyinNZ|Contribs]])</sup> 09:08, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
-*I support re-merging. The blizzard of supercentenarian stubs full of longevity fancruft were all based on the idea that it somehow disparages individuals to not give them individual articles. That's silly. The question is how to best present them, and in most cases that's a list entry or minibio within a list. [[User:EEng#s|<b style="color: red;">E</b>]][[User talk:EEng#s|<b style="color: blue;">Eng</b>]] 02:46, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
-*The article should be kept as a standalone page. The biographical information presented here would not be better presented as a minibio, which, by its nature, limits categorization, templates, and future article expansion, should the need arise. Succinct infoboxes, which readers turn to for a fact-based summary of the article, would be absent or cluttered, hampering readability. Sufficient context, per [[WP:NOPAGE]], would be lost in a merger. It's the reader, not a cabal of editors, whom we should be keeping in mind. I pose this question: ''Would a merge into a minibio on the whole help the reader?'' My answer is '''no'''. EEng's question above is also a good one, one which I would, in this case, have to answer with the retention of a standalone article. [[User:Schetm|schetm]] ([[User talk:Schetm|talk]]) 06:18, 9 December 2018 (UTC)