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== Corrected "Owner" in The Top, Right Sidebar == |
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Citizens Bank Park is owned by the Philadelphia Phillies and not the City of Philadelphia. What I don't know, and what is missing from the entire discussion is: 1) who owns the land the stadium is built on? I think the correct answer is the City of Philadelphia. While the city owns the land, the Phillies own the building, much like people living in a condominium or trailer park own their building, but the condominium or trailer park owner owns the land in which the property rests. If so, that should be noted in the sidebar, Owner: Philadelphia Phillies (building), City of Philadelphia (land). And, 2) how was the stadium financed? Again, I think the correct answer is that the City of Philadelphia and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania issued municipal bonds that the Phillies are repaying. The city and commonwealth agreed to this because they would not incur any costs building the stadium, and because they could issue the bonds at a much lower interest rate compared to bonds that the Phillies, a privately held company, could issue on the bond market. This saved the project money, and allowed the Phillies to build the stadium at a substantially lower cost. |
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[[User:Squonk64|Squonk64]] ([[User talk:Squonk64|talk]]) 19:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Squonk64[[User:Squonk64|Squonk64]] ([[User talk:Squonk64|talk]]) 19:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC) |
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== Other home team? == |
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It's perhaps of an awkward historical footnote, but should something be put that now (late June, 2010), due to the G20 summit, it's actually the official home stadium of the Toronto Bluejays? It's the first time a National League stadium will be using a designated hitter. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.60.118.5|74.60.118.5]] ([[User talk:74.60.118.5|talk]]) 18:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:It will be entered in prose once a game is completed. It doesn't need to be treated in the infobox or anything like that. — [[User:Killervogel5|<span style="color:#B71234">'''KV5'''</span>]] • [[User_talk:Killervogel5|<span style="color:#00338d">Talk</span>]] • 18:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC) |
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Why is the Giants Stadium game where the Saints where the "Home" team under the tenets tap, but you deleted my post that the Blue Jay, where a tenet of Citizens Bank Park? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Patricohno|Patricohno]] ([[User talk:Patricohno|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Patricohno|contribs]]) 15:01, 26 June 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Because the other article is wrong. The Saints were never officially tenants of Giants Stadium, and the Blue Jays were never official tenants of Citizens Bank Park. — [[User:Killervogel5|<span style="color:#B71234">'''KV5'''</span>]] • [[User_talk:Killervogel5|<span style="color:#00338d">Talk</span>]] • 15:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC) |
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So it seems to me that you are going by the fact that the Blue Jays did not pay to play their games at the Stadium. I am looking at tenants are teams that play games at the stadium. The Blue Jays did bat last, they did get the home team figures for the attendance, they were announced last, and they used Blue Jays Videos in between innings. Don't yell at me for not getting my fact straight when i am only going by the other articles on the site. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Patricohno|Patricohno]] ([[User talk:Patricohno|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Patricohno|contribs]]) 15:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I did not yell... but you also can't consider Wikipedia a reliable source. What I am "going by" is that Major League Baseball ''designated'' Toronto as the home team for these games, regardless of the venue. It's the same as a game played at a neutral site; you can't consider every team ever designated a home team at a neutral venue to be a tenant of said property. — [[User:Killervogel5|<span style="color:#B71234">'''KV5'''</span>]] • [[User_talk:Killervogel5|<span style="color:#00338d">Talk</span>]] • 15:17, 26 June 2010 (UTC) |
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Nope. See it would be different if it was an exhibition game or a Championship/Bowl Game. For instance, Th College World Series is an official tenant Rosenblatt Stadium. The Final Four was a tenet of Ford Field in 2009. Tornto was not "designated" the home team. The Series was supposed to be played at their home stadium, Roger Centre, but was moved, So until Sunday, Citizens Bank Park in their home stadium. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Patricohno|Patricohno]] ([[User talk:Patricohno|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Patricohno|contribs]]) 15:37, 26 June 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The fact remains that they are not official tenants. They are not on a lease or rental agreement of the stadium. The Phillies are the tenants and the Blue Jays are simply using the stadium. — [[User:Killervogel5|<span style="color:#B71234">'''KV5'''</span>]] • [[User_talk:Killervogel5|<span style="color:#00338d">Talk</span>]] • 15:48, 26 June 2010 (UTC) |
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==Naming rights== |
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Because the ball park is named for a bank, can we get info on the naimg rights and the banl itself? [[Special:Contributions/4.30.122.246|4.30.122.246]] ([[User talk:4.30.122.246|talk]]) 12:48, 15 August 2014 (UTC) |
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== Fence heights? == |
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Does anyone know, and can anyone post, the heights of the outfield fences? |
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Corrected "Owner" in The Top, Right Sidebar
[edit]Citizens Bank Park is owned by the Philadelphia Phillies and not the City of Philadelphia. What I don't know, and what is missing from the entire discussion is: 1) who owns the land the stadium is built on? I think the correct answer is the City of Philadelphia. While the city owns the land, the Phillies own the building, much like people living in a condominium or trailer park own their building, but the condominium or trailer park owner owns the land in which the property rests. If so, that should be noted in the sidebar, Owner: Philadelphia Phillies (building), City of Philadelphia (land). And, 2) how was the stadium financed? Again, I think the correct answer is that the City of Philadelphia and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania issued municipal bonds that the Phillies are repaying. The city and commonwealth agreed to this because they would not incur any costs building the stadium, and because they could issue the bonds at a much lower interest rate compared to bonds that the Phillies, a privately held company, could issue on the bond market. This saved the project money, and allowed the Phillies to build the stadium at a substantially lower cost.
Comments? Any researchers willing to help?
Squonk64 (talk) 19:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Squonk64Squonk64 (talk) 19:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Other home team?
[edit]It's perhaps of an awkward historical footnote, but should something be put that now (late June, 2010), due to the G20 summit, it's actually the official home stadium of the Toronto Bluejays? It's the first time a National League stadium will be using a designated hitter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.60.118.5 (talk) 18:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- It will be entered in prose once a game is completed. It doesn't need to be treated in the infobox or anything like that. — KV5 • Talk • 18:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Why is the Giants Stadium game where the Saints where the "Home" team under the tenets tap, but you deleted my post that the Blue Jay, where a tenet of Citizens Bank Park? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patricohno (talk • contribs) 15:01, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- Because the other article is wrong. The Saints were never officially tenants of Giants Stadium, and the Blue Jays were never official tenants of Citizens Bank Park. — KV5 • Talk • 15:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
So it seems to me that you are going by the fact that the Blue Jays did not pay to play their games at the Stadium. I am looking at tenants are teams that play games at the stadium. The Blue Jays did bat last, they did get the home team figures for the attendance, they were announced last, and they used Blue Jays Videos in between innings. Don't yell at me for not getting my fact straight when i am only going by the other articles on the site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patricohno (talk • contribs) 15:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- I did not yell... but you also can't consider Wikipedia a reliable source. What I am "going by" is that Major League Baseball designated Toronto as the home team for these games, regardless of the venue. It's the same as a game played at a neutral site; you can't consider every team ever designated a home team at a neutral venue to be a tenant of said property. — KV5 • Talk • 15:17, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Nope. See it would be different if it was an exhibition game or a Championship/Bowl Game. For instance, Th College World Series is an official tenant Rosenblatt Stadium. The Final Four was a tenet of Ford Field in 2009. Tornto was not "designated" the home team. The Series was supposed to be played at their home stadium, Roger Centre, but was moved, So until Sunday, Citizens Bank Park in their home stadium. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patricohno (talk • contribs) 15:37, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- The fact remains that they are not official tenants. They are not on a lease or rental agreement of the stadium. The Phillies are the tenants and the Blue Jays are simply using the stadium. — KV5 • Talk • 15:48, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Proposed removal of redundant publisher information
[edit]A number of citations in this article unnecessarily include the publisher for periodicals and websites that have their own Wikipedia article. This information has no value to anyone wanting to check or track down references. For example, publisher=Washington Post Company for references to The Washington Post, or publisher=MLB Advanced Media for references to MLB.com, only make the article longer - significantly longer when repeated many times - without adding anything useful. Therefore I plan to upgrade the article's citations to remove all such redundant publisher info, bringing them into line with the recommended use of the cite template (see Template:Citation#Publisher). I'll also remove redundant 'location' parameters (e.g. work=New York Times|location=New York), as suggested by the template's usage guidelines. Please raise any questions here or on my talk page. Colonies Chris (talk) 15:12, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Naming rights
[edit]Because the ball park is named for a bank, can we get info on the naimg rights and the banl itself? 4.30.122.246 (talk) 12:48, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Fence heights?
[edit]Does anyone know, and can anyone post, the heights of the outfield fences?
Yugiohfan2010 (talk) 03:21, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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