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==Untitled==
what was the goat's name
what was the goat's name


There was a ram named Goliath that Daniel was wrestling with. --[[User:Captwheeler|Captwheeler]] 03:36, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
There was a ram named Goliath that Daniel was wrestling with. --[[User:Captwheeler|Captwheeler]] 03:36, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

==Trivia?==
I think the trivia section should be renamed 'in popular culture'. That's really what it is, and everyone knows trivia sections are discouraged anyway. I have modified the title accordingly. [[User:Thhhh|Thhhh]] ([[User talk:Thhhh|talk]]) 02:45, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


== Folk legend? ==
== Folk legend? ==


In a travel map I picked up, sponsored by [[ENCO]] in [[1960]], it describes [[Daniel Webster]] on a level of [[folklore]] similar to [[Paul Bunyan]] or [[Pecos Bill]]. According to the map "When Daniel Webster spoke, some say, the stars flashed and the earth trembled. He had a brow like a mountain and black eyes that burned like live coals." [[User:Kevingarcia|Kevingarcia]] 07:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
In a travel map I picked up, sponsored by [[ENCO]] in [[1960]], it describes [[Daniel Webster]] on a level of [[folklore]] similar to [[Paul Bunyan]] or [[Pecos Bill]]. According to the map "When Daniel Webster spoke, some say, the stars flashed and the earth trembled. He had a brow like a mountain and black eyes that burned like live coals." [[User:Kevingarcia|Kevingarcia]] 07:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

:[[Daniel Webster]] was a real person, who was portrayed in melodramatic ways. --[[User:Captwheeler|Captwheeler]] 19:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

::I know, I was just pointing out that his deeds became folk legends, told and retold by people - thanks largely to the book. -[[User:Kevingarcia|Kevingarcia]]


== Other reference ==
== Other reference ==
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:-"Flick"? [[User:Kevingarcia|Kevingarcia]] 07:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:-"Flick"? [[User:Kevingarcia|Kevingarcia]] 07:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

* ''In several non-English speaking countries, the story is included in textbooks for teaching English to students who are often baffled by the references to events of 19th century American history{{Talkfact}}.''
** Although, to be perfectly frank, American students are far more baffled by references to events of 19th century American history than are their foreign peers. [[User:216.93.208.154|216.93.208.154]] 22:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Right; we're all stupid. That must be it. [[User:72.144.68.156|72.144.68.156]] 01:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

== Tom Walker? ==

It's rather stunning that this article contains no reference to the American antecedent of this story. [[The Devil and Tom Walker]] is, you know, important. [[User:72.144.68.156|72.144.68.156]] 01:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

:Oh I agree 200%. I did a whole semester on English literature this year and learned all about Faust, and The Devil and Tom Walker, and our teacher told us of it's influence. In short, I've included the details on its influence on this story, that was so ignorantly left out before, in a seeming attempt to make this story the "original version", when 'Tom Walker' was published more than 100 years before. [[User:209.244.42.97|209.244.42.97]] 20:24, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

::Brief reference to "[[The Devil and Tom Walker]]" is what should be on this page. For more details on that story (such as where is was published), the reader should access the article on "[[The Devil and Tom Walker]]." [[User:Shsilver|Shsilver]] 03:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

== Film Title ==
The film was original called All That Money Can Buy and was later retitled the same as the story. Was there some contractual issue behind this? --[[User:Kosboot|kosboot]] 22:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Analysis ==

Am I the only one who thinks it borders on Original Research? [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 04:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== The story is set prior to 1850. ==

The article claims the story takes place earlier than the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. That's obvious, since Webster died in 1852! The story actually was set before 1850. We know this because, when the devil tells Webster's fortune, he predicts that Webster would make a controversial speech that would alienate many of his supporters. This was an obvious reference to Webster's famous "Seventh of March Speech" in support of the Compromise of 1850. [[Special:Contributions/97.73.64.172|97.73.64.172]] ([[User talk:97.73.64.172|talk]]) 03:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

== In popular culture ==

Why did you guys get rid of the Dom Fera section?! ~[[User:Xana42|xana43]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.160.154.61|98.160.154.61]] ([[User talk:98.160.154.61|talk]]) 05:25, 26 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Citation needed: ST:TNG ==

I've placed a "citation needed" tag on the Star Trek: The Next Generation entry in the In Popular Culture section. I wanted to be clear on what I think is needed here: I am looking for a citation that The Devil and Daniel Webster was an influence on the episodes listed. As it is, it comes across as nothing more than "these stories are kinda similar." I am not questioning that the plots of the episodes as described is accurate. [[User:Chuck Carroll|Chuck]] ([[User talk:Chuck Carroll|talk]]) 15:52, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:29, 13 February 2024

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what was the goat's name

There was a ram named Goliath that Daniel was wrestling with. --Captwheeler 03:36, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia?

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I think the trivia section should be renamed 'in popular culture'. That's really what it is, and everyone knows trivia sections are discouraged anyway. I have modified the title accordingly. Thhhh (talk) 02:45, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Folk legend?

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In a travel map I picked up, sponsored by ENCO in 1960, it describes Daniel Webster on a level of folklore similar to Paul Bunyan or Pecos Bill. According to the map "When Daniel Webster spoke, some say, the stars flashed and the earth trembled. He had a brow like a mountain and black eyes that burned like live coals." Kevingarcia 07:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Webster was a real person, who was portrayed in melodramatic ways. --Captwheeler 19:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I know, I was just pointing out that his deeds became folk legends, told and retold by people - thanks largely to the book. -Kevingarcia

Other reference

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There was also a reference to this story in an episode of Italic textFuturamaItalic text, another show by Italic textSimpsonsItalic text creator Matt Groening in which the main character, Flick, makes a deal with the devil for his soul. They attempt to time travel to retrieve Daniel Webster to help Flick get out of his contract, but inadvertently tagert the wrong Webster, and instead they retrieve the Webster African-American child star of 1980's TV fame.

-"Flick"? Kevingarcia 07:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia

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  • In several non-English speaking countries, the story is included in textbooks for teaching English to students who are often baffled by the references to events of 19th century American history[citation needed].
Right; we're all stupid. That must be it. 72.144.68.156 01:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Walker?

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It's rather stunning that this article contains no reference to the American antecedent of this story. The Devil and Tom Walker is, you know, important. 72.144.68.156 01:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I agree 200%. I did a whole semester on English literature this year and learned all about Faust, and The Devil and Tom Walker, and our teacher told us of it's influence. In short, I've included the details on its influence on this story, that was so ignorantly left out before, in a seeming attempt to make this story the "original version", when 'Tom Walker' was published more than 100 years before. 209.244.42.97 20:24, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Brief reference to "The Devil and Tom Walker" is what should be on this page. For more details on that story (such as where is was published), the reader should access the article on "The Devil and Tom Walker." Shsilver 03:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Film Title

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The film was original called All That Money Can Buy and was later retitled the same as the story. Was there some contractual issue behind this? --kosboot 22:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Analysis

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Am I the only one who thinks it borders on Original Research? 68.39.174.238 04:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The story is set prior to 1850.

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The article claims the story takes place earlier than the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. That's obvious, since Webster died in 1852! The story actually was set before 1850. We know this because, when the devil tells Webster's fortune, he predicts that Webster would make a controversial speech that would alienate many of his supporters. This was an obvious reference to Webster's famous "Seventh of March Speech" in support of the Compromise of 1850. 97.73.64.172 (talk) 03:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Why did you guys get rid of the Dom Fera section?! ~xana43 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.154.61 (talk) 05:25, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citation needed: ST:TNG

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I've placed a "citation needed" tag on the Star Trek: The Next Generation entry in the In Popular Culture section. I wanted to be clear on what I think is needed here: I am looking for a citation that The Devil and Daniel Webster was an influence on the episodes listed. As it is, it comes across as nothing more than "these stories are kinda similar." I am not questioning that the plots of the episodes as described is accurate. Chuck (talk) 15:52, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]