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A fact from George Cuppy appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 April 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Nig Cuppy, having scored five runs against the Chicago Colts on August 9 1895, holds the record for most runs scored by a pitcher in a major league baseball game?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2006/April.

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This link is broken: http://www.rootsweb.com/~txnavarr/biographies/c/clark_jay_justin.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feran (talk • contribs) 00:21, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like someone took care of replacing the dead link. -Phoenixrod (talk) 03:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rename proposal Nig Cuppy --> George Cuppy

Consistent with recent discussion at WT:BASEBALL, this is a proposal to rename biographical article Nig Cuppy to George Cuppy. Searching on newspapers.com finds that during Cuppy's time in professional baseball (1891 to 1901), especially with the Cleveland Spiders during 1892–1898, he was referred to as "George Cuppy" much more than "Nig Cuppy". Search examples, all done on newspapers.com:

"george cuppy" baseball for 1891–1901 gets 296 hits
"nig cuppy" baseball for 1891–1901 gets 60 hits
"george cuppy" pitcher for 1891–1901 gets 517 hits
"nig cuppy" pitcher for 1891–1901 gets 69 hits
"george cuppy" cleveland for 1892–1898 gets 339 hits
"nig cuppy" cleveland for 1892–1898 gets 45 hits

As George Cuppy is currently a redirect to Nig Cuppy, a swap of those pages via WP:RM/TR (if consensus is reached) would be required to complete the move. Comments welcome—please reply in the below section. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:50, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 May 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 01:16, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nig Cuppy → George Cuppy – George Joseph Cuppy was primarily referred to as "George Cuppy" during his time playing professional baseball (1891–1901). While baseball reference sites such as Baseball-Reference.com and Retrosheet list him (or have previously listed him) as "Nig Cuppy", that name was not used nearly as often as George Cuppy by contemporary newspaper reports. The results of searches conducted via newspapers.com are listed on the Talk page. Wikipedia page "George Cuppy" currently exists as a redirect to "Nig Cuppy". Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:55, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support - based on modern research. Baseball-reference has made the change, I and suspect that most other online sources will follow as well. Neonblak ^talk - 16:44, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom – Muboshgu (talk) 17:18, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Frankly, I'm rather uncomfortable to be titling articles with such obvious slurs generally. As opposed to some of the others where it's a COMMONNAME issue, this seems more like a WP:CRITERIA issue (i.e. something that perhaps should be addressed at WP:CRITERIA). Go Phightins! 20:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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 :Looks like someone took care of replacing the dead link. -[[User:Phoenixrod|Phoenixrod]] ([[User talk:Phoenixrod|talk]]) 03:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
+== Rename proposal Nig Cuppy --> George Cuppy ==
+Consistent with recent discussion at [[WT:BASEBALL]], this is a proposal to rename biographical article [[Nig Cuppy]] to [[George Cuppy]]. Searching on newspapers.com finds that during Cuppy's time in professional baseball (1891 to 1901), especially with the Cleveland Spiders during 1892–1898, he was referred to as "George Cuppy" much more than "Nig Cuppy". Search examples, all done on newspapers.com:
+* '''"george cuppy" baseball''' for 1891–1901 gets 296 hits
+* '''"nig cuppy" baseball''' for 1891–1901 gets 60 hits
+* '''"george cuppy" pitcher''' for 1891–1901 gets 517 hits
+* '''"nig cuppy" pitcher''' for 1891–1901 gets 69 hits
+* '''"george cuppy" cleveland''' for 1892–1898 gets 339 hits
+* '''"nig cuppy" cleveland''' for 1892–1898 gets 45 hits
+As [[George Cuppy]] is currently a redirect to [[Nig Cuppy]], a swap of those pages via [[WP:RM/TR]] (if consensus is reached) would be required to complete the move. Comments welcome—'''please reply in the below section'''. Thanks. [[User:Dmoore5556|Dmoore5556]] ([[User talk:Dmoore5556|talk]]) 02:50, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
+== Requested move 10 May 2021 ==
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+:''The following is a closed discussion of a [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a [[Wikipedia:move review|move review]] after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. ''
+The result of the move request was: Moved {{nac}}  ([[User talk:Buidhe|t]] &#183; [[Special:Contributions/Buidhe|c]]) '''[[User:buidhe|<span style="color: black">buidhe</span>]]''' 01:16, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
+----
+[[:Nig Cuppy]] → {{no redirect|George Cuppy}} – George Joseph Cuppy was primarily referred to as "George Cuppy" during his time playing professional baseball (1891–1901). While baseball reference sites such as Baseball-Reference.com and Retrosheet list him (or have previously listed him) as "Nig Cuppy", that name was not used nearly as often as George Cuppy by contemporary newspaper reports. The results of searches conducted via newspapers.com are listed on the Talk page. Wikipedia page "George Cuppy" currently exists as a redirect to "Nig Cuppy". [[User:Dmoore5556|Dmoore5556]] ([[User talk:Dmoore5556|talk]]) 02:55, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
+*'''Support''' - based on modern research. Baseball-reference has made the change, I and suspect that most other online sources will follow as well. <i><b>[[User:Neonblak|<span style="color:black">Neonblak</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue"> <sup>[[User talk:Neonblak|talk]]</sup></span></b> - </i> 16:44, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
+*'''Support''' per nom &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 17:18, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
+:'''Support''' - Frankly, I'm rather uncomfortable to be titling articles with such obvious slurs generally. As opposed to some of the others where it's a COMMONNAME issue, this seems more like a WP:CRITERIA issue (i.e. something that perhaps should be addressed at WP:CRITERIA). '''[[User:Go Phightins!|<span style="color: blue;">Go</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color: #E90004;">''Phightins''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go Phightins!|<span style="color: #008504;">!</span>]]''' 20:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
+{{abot}}