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I would like to see a source for the last remark. Yes, they are very politicized but please back up your statements. |
I would like to see a source for the last remark. Yes, they are very politicized but please back up your statements. |
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I have reverted edits by Yeoberry for various reasons, mainly related to NPOV. The issues I found are: |
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#Changing "The Family Research Institute is designated an anti-gay hate group by the nonprofit civil rights organization" to "The Family Research Institute is designated an anti-gay hate group by the left-leaning political organization". I would not argue that left-leaning is wrong, but removing "nonprofit civil rights..." removes factual information. Some have previously suggested adding "advocacy" after the phrase civil rights. |
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#Suggestions that there were disagreement with Paul Cameron's research, when in actuality, the sources state that his research was discredited. |
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#Addition of "This designation is rejected by the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission which complains that groups like SPLC have an "absurd standard they apply when creating their hate list". sourced to [http://defendchristians.org/tag/family-research-institute/ defendchristians.org]. As far as I know, this organization is not recognized as authoritative on this subject. If they are, we would need tertiary sources to indicate it. |
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#[[WP:UNDUE|UNDUE]] biographical information about Paul Cameron that is self-serving to the subject, much of which is sourced from his own web site. |
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# Replacing sourced content about FRI's hate group listing with their own repudiation of the APA and other respected organizations. |
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I cannot figure out how to edit the summary and the side panel. |
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I invite Yeoberry to discuss why these edits should remain in the article. - [[user: MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 22:27, 7 March 2013 (UTC) |
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:I agree with you, MrX - I reverted Yeoberry too. Yeoberry, I hope you'll join us here instead of continuing to edit-war. Cheers, [[User:Dawn Bard|Dawn Bard]] ([[User talk:Dawn Bard|talk]]) 22:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC) |
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According to the summary FRI is deemed an anti-gay hate group by the SPLC. For several years now the SPLC has changed anti-gay to anti-LGBTQ. |
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The side panel has 2010 revenues. |
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I'm not doing any "edit war". The article was, as I originally found it, absurdly biased, really nothing more than a compilation of attacks on the organization. Even so, I left all the cited material in place and adding more to provide balance. |
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1. To simply say that the SPLC is a "civil rights" organization, suggests that it does not have a political bent, which is clearly does. "Advocacy" might be a good idea. |
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2. There are many people who would disagree that Cameron's research is "discredited." You've simply not chosen to believe them. You've taken the word of those who attack him and reported it as if fact. |
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3. Deleting the balancing material about the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission is an example of bias. They are as authoritative as is the SPLC. |
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4. I would ask you to find biographical material that is then not from attack sites. The UC Davis stuff is actually related to a blog by one professor who is attacking Cameron and so likely shouldn't be cited either. |
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5. Again, you're just accepting the word of groups attacking FRI. You haven't found any unbiased, non-attack sources. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Yeoberry|Yeoberry]] ([[User talk:Yeoberry|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Yeoberry|contribs]]) 22:39, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Just a comment about procedure. It's great that you've responded here, and I'll allow other people to reply. But it's very important that you don't try to re-introduce your changes into the article until the discussion here has finished. [[User:StAnselm|<b>St</b>]][[Special:Contributions/StAnselm|Anselm]] ([[User talk:StAnselm|talk]]) 22:48, 7 March 2013 (UTC) |
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Revenues for the year ended June 30, 2019 were $50,518.<ref name="Business Master File">{{cite web |title=Business Master File |url=https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/exempt-organizations-business-master-file-extract-eo-bmf |website=IRS Business Master File |publisher=Internal Revenue Service |accessdate=27 October 2020}}</ref> |
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== Absurd Bias == |
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[[User:David Cary Hart|David Cary Hart]] ([[User talk:David Cary Hart|talk]]) 15:55, 27 October 2020 (UTC) |
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The article as of the beginning of 3-7-13 was a propaganda piece with a clear, unrelenting, unfair agenda. |
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I don't have time for a full revision but one should be under taken. |
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# Some examples, it calls the FRI "small". If so, then it would violate wiki's notability standards. |
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# Why cite SPLC? It's not an organization known for it's expertise on issues related to FRI nor is it a reliable, unbiased tertiary authority. |
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# If SPLC is cited, then why is not a balancing organization also cited? |
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# The article states that, as if established fact, that Cameron's research is "discredited", without citation. |
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# Editors deleted claims by FRI that they've proven malfeasance by the APA, etc. |
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# The article cites material from a blog by a professor at UC Davis as if it is authoritative and unbiased. |
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# The article is basically a compilation of attacks on FRI while purposely suppressing material favorable to it. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Yeoberry|Yeoberry]] ([[User talk:Yeoberry|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Yeoberry|contribs]]) 22:56, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[edit]I cannot figure out how to edit the summary and the side panel.
According to the summary FRI is deemed an anti-gay hate group by the SPLC. For several years now the SPLC has changed anti-gay to anti-LGBTQ.
The side panel has 2010 revenues.
Revenues for the year ended June 30, 2019 were $50,518.[1] David Cary Hart (talk) 15:55, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
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