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I'm surprised this article doesn't mention the Roman vexillum, a very similar kind of banner. I don't know much about these things, but I would imagine the medieval Italian gonfalone would be a direct descendant of the Roman vexillum. Fair statement? Perhaps it came the gonfalone was revived because of Byzantine influence in that period (the labarum / lavaron). [[User:Nojamus|Nojamus]] ([[User talk:Nojamus|talk]]) 17:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC) |
I'm surprised this article doesn't mention the Roman vexillum, a very similar kind of banner. I don't know much about these things, but I would imagine the medieval Italian gonfalone would be a direct descendant of the Roman vexillum. Fair statement? Perhaps it came the gonfalone was revived because of Byzantine influence in that period (the labarum / lavaron). [[User:Nojamus|Nojamus]] ([[User talk:Nojamus|talk]]) 17:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC) |
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[[:Gonfalone]] → {{no redirect|Gonfalon}} – The spelling without the final "E" appears to be the established English spelling per a Google search (and the text of the article). Note that [[Merriam-Webster]] does not even [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gonfalon list] the alternate form, and [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gonfalon Wiktionary] has the word at the E-less form. '''''D'''''[[User:Dralwik|'''ralwi''']][[User:Dralwik/sandbox|'''k''']]|<sup>[[User talk:Dralwik|Have a Chat]]</sup> 19:07, 20 April 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' The term was introduced to English via medieval French; the Italian spelling seems to be a modern confusion. <small>[[Special:Contributions/Victor_falk|<sup style="color:green;">''walk''</sup>]]</small> [[user:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">victor falk</i>]]<sup><small> [[user_talk:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">talk</i>]]</small></sup> 08:12, 22 April 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Support'''. "Gonfalon" is also the headword in the ''[[OED]]'', 2nd edition. [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 17:05, 23 April 2014 (UTC) |
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Why is there a picture of a lance head on this page?
[edit]Is this a secondary meaning that has been edited out? I don't see anything in the text suggesting it. -- Resuna (talk) 08:40, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Source for " Gonfalone is not used in the Sede vacante"
[edit]This is a common misconception. It is caused by the Italians who confused the two words. A gonfalone is a flag, in the period of "Sede vacante" an umbrella is used in the Vaticans Cardinal-camerlengo's heraldric device. Because the umbrella was often painted on the flag people started to call the flag after the illustration. Sources:
- "Heraldry in the Catholic Church" by Bisshop Bruno Bernard Heim 1978 (page 55)
- "Heraldry" Dr. Ottfried Neubecker 1976 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robert Prummel (talk • contribs) 15:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
So sorry! I forgot... 16:04, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Robert Prummel 16:04, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Gonfalone is also the name of small 'neighbourhoods' in medieval florence, or more specifically the meetings of these neighbourhoods to discuss taxation etc
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[edit]I'm surprised this article doesn't mention the Roman vexillum, a very similar kind of banner. I don't know much about these things, but I would imagine the medieval Italian gonfalone would be a direct descendant of the Roman vexillum. Fair statement? Perhaps it came the gonfalone was revived because of Byzantine influence in that period (the labarum / lavaron). Nojamus (talk) 17:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:48, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Gonfalone → Gonfalon – The spelling without the final "E" appears to be the established English spelling per a Google search (and the text of the article). Note that Merriam-Webster does not even list the alternate form, and Wiktionary has the word at the E-less form. Dralwik|Have a Chat 19:07, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- Support The term was introduced to English via medieval French; the Italian spelling seems to be a modern confusion. walk victor falk talk 08:12, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- Support. "Gonfalon" is also the headword in the OED, 2nd edition. Deor (talk) 17:05, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
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