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Copyright and advertising issues

Apart from a spelling fix (dependant -> dependent) and the removal of paragraph breaks, the sections about the History of the company and Composers published by the company appear to be word-for-word copies from History of G. Schirmer—which clearly displays the note "Copyright © 2006 G. Schirmer, Inc. and Associated Music Publishers, Inc." Since this could be a copyright violation, and one which I don't have time to fix right now, I'm bringing it to the attention of those with an interest in the article. A tag was recently added because of concerns about point of view and advertising style, so some expeditious rewriting should help to address all of these issues. —Error -128 (talk) 18:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No response, so I'm reverting the edits concerned. Please feel free to reintroduce any material, suitably rewritten to address the above issues. Thanks. Error -128 (talk) 01:56, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 August 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved with rough consensus. The oppose rationale was countered, and the request was supported after relisting. (note the existence of Nike, Inc., just FYI) (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 23:26, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

G. Schirmer Inc. → G. Schirmer, Inc. – The way it appears in their corporate logo Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 01:40, 15 August 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 02:59, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:CONSISTENCY with Apple Inc., Alphabet Inc., Dell Inc., etc. ^Ḉɱ̍ 2nd anniv. 01:53, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Those are legal entities that have chosen to remove their commas at their official websites. We wouldn't change "X Co." to "X Co" or to "X Company"; or "X Bros." to "X Brothers" for consistency, because it is not their legal name. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 02:31, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Per nom. Meatsgains (talk) 02:15, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support, makes sense, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Female Composers Published by G. Schirmer, Inc.

G. Schirmer, Inc. published the following female composers, whose names have been removed from the article:

Geni Sadero (source: https://books.google.com/books?id=7iwhAQAAIAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=RA2-PA170&dq=Geni+Sadero&hl=en#v=onepage&q=Geni )

Cora Decker Sargent (source: Stewart-Green, Miriam (1980). Women composers: A checklist of works for the solo voice. A reference publication in women's studies. Boston, Mass: Hall. p. 63. ISBN 978-0-8161-8498-9.)

Harriet P. Sawyer (source: Stewart-Green, Miriam (1980). Women composers: A checklist of works for the solo voice. A reference publication in women's studies. Boston, Mass: Hall. p. 64. ISBN 978-0-8161-8498-9.)

Margaret Vance Shelley (source: https://www.esm.rochester.edu/sibley/search/?cx=017635508489857654250:f_j2n8ddilk&cof=FORID:11&q=margaret+shelley+vance)

Fannie Morris Spencer (source: https://books.google.com/books?id=TG0zAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA174&dq=fannie+morris+spencer+schirmer&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjd5ZmxzJiAAxVQEVkFHfpbCJAQ6AF6BAgKEAI#v=onepage&q=fannie&f=false)

Mabel Madison Watson (source: https://books.google.com/books?id=hQA8AQAAMAAJ&q=mabel+madison+watson&pg=PA300#v=snippet&q=mabel) p. 378

Mary Wiggins (source: https://books.google.com/books?id=tlEhAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA570&dq=mary+wiggins+schirmer&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiy0aqQ0ZiAAxXmMlkFHSW7BBgQ6AF6BAgMEAI#v=onepage&q=mary%20wiggins%20schirmer&f=false)

T. E. Meeks (talk) 15:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article is not a list of the composers published under the company. The current individuals named are a small representative group of prominent names (which I've just trimmed further). Prominent female composers such as Frank, Tower and Du Yun already appear here. Aza24 (talk) 16:49, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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+The result of the move request was: '''Moved''' with rough consensus. The oppose rationale was countered, and the request was supported after relisting. (note the existence of [[Nike, Inc.]], just FYI) <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> — [[User:Andy M. Wang|'''''Andy W.''''']] <span style="font-size:88%">('''[[User talk:Andy M. Wang|<span style="color:#164">talk</span>]] ·''' [[Special:Contribs/Andy M. Wang|ctb]])</span> 23:26, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
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 [[:G. Schirmer Inc.]] → {{no redirect|G. Schirmer, Inc.}} – The way it appears in their corporate logo [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 01:40, 15 August 2016 (UTC) <small>--'''''Relisting.''''' — [[User:Andy M. Wang|'''''Andy W.''''']] <span style="font-size:88%">('''[[User talk:Andy M. Wang|<span style="color:#164">talk</span>]] ·''' [[Special:Contribs/Andy M. Wang|ctb]])</span> 02:59, 22 August 2016 (UTC)</small>
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 *:Those are legal entities that have chosen to remove their commas at their official websites. We wouldn't change "X Co." to "X Co" or to "X Company"; or "X Bros." to "X Brothers" for consistency, because it is not their legal name. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 02:31, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 *'''Support''' - Per nom. [[User:Meatsgains|Meatsgains]] ([[User talk:Meatsgains|talk]]) 02:15, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
+*'''Support''', makes sense, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:24, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
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+== Female Composers Published by G. Schirmer, Inc. ==
+G. Schirmer, Inc. published the following female composers, whose names have been removed from the article:
+* [[Geni Sadero]] (source: https://books.google.com/books?id=7iwhAQAAIAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=RA2-PA170&dq=Geni+Sadero&hl=en#v=onepage&q=Geni )
+* [[Cora Decker Sargent]] (source: Stewart-Green, Miriam (1980). ''Women composers: A checklist of works for the solo voice''. A reference publication in women's studies. Boston, Mass: Hall. p. 63. [[ISBN (identifier)|ISBN]] [[Special:BookSources/978-0-8161-8498-9|978-0-8161-8498-9]].)
+* [[Harriet P. Sawyer]] (source: Stewart-Green, Miriam (1980). ''Women composers: A checklist of works for the solo voice''. A reference publication in women's studies. Boston, Mass: Hall. p. 64. [[ISBN (identifier)|ISBN]] [[Special:BookSources/978-0-8161-8498-9|978-0-8161-8498-9]].)
+* [[Margaret Vance Shelley]] (source: https://www.esm.rochester.edu/sibley/search/?cx=017635508489857654250:f_j2n8ddilk&cof=FORID:11&q=margaret+shelley+vance)
+* [[Fannie Morris Spencer]] (source: https://books.google.com/books?id=TG0zAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA174&dq=fannie+morris+spencer+schirmer&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjd5ZmxzJiAAxVQEVkFHfpbCJAQ6AF6BAgKEAI#v=onepage&q=fannie&f=false)
+* [[Mabel Madison Watson]] (source: https://books.google.com/books?id=hQA8AQAAMAAJ&q=mabel+madison+watson&pg=PA300#v=snippet&q=mabel) p. 378
+* [[Mary Wiggins]] (source: https://books.google.com/books?id=tlEhAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA570&dq=mary+wiggins+schirmer&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiy0aqQ0ZiAAxXmMlkFHSW7BBgQ6AF6BAgMEAI#v=onepage&q=mary%20wiggins%20schirmer&f=false)
+[[User:T. E. Meeks|T. E. Meeks]] ([[User talk:T. E. Meeks|talk]]) 15:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
+:This article is not a list of the composers published under the company. The current individuals named are a small representative group of prominent names (which I've just trimmed further). Prominent female composers such as Frank, Tower and Du Yun already appear here. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 16:49, 18 July 2023 (UTC)