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== Jacob Blake == |
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Which references say the protests about his shooting are George Floyd protests? [[User:FDW777|FDW777]] ([[User talk:FDW777|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC) |
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Many George Floyd protests didn't explicitly reference George Floyd, or they referenced him along with Breonna Taylor and some of the other black people killed this year. "George Floyd protests" has been used across Wikipedia to refer to all the racial protests that have occurred this summer because his death was the big one that sparked an escalation in protests. At some point this page and all the other "George Floyd protests in [location]" pages should be renamed "2020 racial unrest in [location]". [[User:Bartholomite|Bartholomite]] ([[User talk:Bartholomite|talk]]) 02:32, 3 September 2020 (UTC) |
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I don't think so; the George Floyd killing in particular was the number one catalyst for the protests all over the country and world, so I'm not counting on page title changes happening. Accordingly, while I'd be OK with the Jacob Blake protests being mentioned for one sentence, this page is about the protests that were primarily in response to the death of George Floyd, so a full two-paragraph section is not warranted. [[User:Songwaters|Songwaters]] ([[User talk:Songwaters|talk]]) 21:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC) |
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:I think the "See also" link adequately covers the "mentioned for one sentence". [[User:FDW777|FDW777]] ([[User talk:FDW777|talk]]) 15:31, 10 October 2020 (UTC) |
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::It does not, see also is at the very back, also '''not a sentence''', contrary to your above. The original approach of 1-2 sentences is fine. You make a claim that there is support for blank removal on a 2-1 vote, but neither [[User:Bartholomite|Bartholomite]] nor [[User:Songwaters|Songwaters]] support blanking Jacob blake. Also '''oppose''' from myself for blanking jacob blake from this article. [[User:Albertaont|Albertaont]] ([[User talk:Albertaont|talk]]) 16:03, 10 October 2020 (UTC) |
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Jacob Blake
[edit]Which references say the protests about his shooting are George Floyd protests? FDW777 (talk) 12:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Many George Floyd protests didn't explicitly reference George Floyd, or they referenced him along with Breonna Taylor and some of the other black people killed this year. "George Floyd protests" has been used across Wikipedia to refer to all the racial protests that have occurred this summer because his death was the big one that sparked an escalation in protests. At some point this page and all the other "George Floyd protests in [location]" pages should be renamed "2020 racial unrest in [location]". Bartholomite (talk) 02:32, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't think so; the George Floyd killing in particular was the number one catalyst for the protests all over the country and world, so I'm not counting on page title changes happening. Accordingly, while I'd be OK with the Jacob Blake protests being mentioned for one sentence, this page is about the protests that were primarily in response to the death of George Floyd, so a full two-paragraph section is not warranted. Songwaters (talk) 21:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- I think the "See also" link adequately covers the "mentioned for one sentence". FDW777 (talk) 15:31, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- It does not, see also is at the very back, also not a sentence, contrary to your above. The original approach of 1-2 sentences is fine. You make a claim that there is support for blank removal on a 2-1 vote, but neither Bartholomite nor Songwaters support blanking Jacob blake. Also oppose from myself for blanking jacob blake from this article. Albertaont (talk) 16:03, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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