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January 20, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed
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-== PICTURE ==
-I think a picture of Ali hewson will help. Anyone can load some? My internet permissions don't allow me to. Thanks[[User:Ali Hewson|//Only Love Can Heal Such A Scar//]] ([[User talk:Ali Hewson|talk]]) 20:57, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
-:Unfortunately, Wikipedia has an extremely restrictive image rights policy.  You cannot use photos you see in newspapers or magazines or find on the web.  For the most part, only photos taken by Wiki contributors themselves can be used.  [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 02:06, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
-== Accident ==
-Recently Ali has an accident with a squad. I was wondering in which part of the article can I post that[[User:Ali Hewson|MissBono]] ([[User talk:Ali Hewson|talk]]) 20:22, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
-:Wikipedia has a guideline [[WP:NOTNEWSPAPER]], which basically says that not everything a newspaper reports about a subject needs to go into the Wikipedia article about that subject.  In this case, [http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/bonos-wife-ali-hewson-airlifted-to-hospital-after-fall-29087642.html there were news reports like this one] last month that described the injury, but just a couple of weeks later, [http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/mccartney-bono-and-ali-come-together-for-stella-show-29108618.html there is this news report] that says she's had a speedy recovery and is out attending fashion shows.  So it does not look like this injury has had any lasting effect upon her life.  Given that, it does not need to be in the article.  In contrast, Bono's back injury in 2010 caused a major leg of a U2 tour to be postponed for a year, so that mention of that injury does belong in his article.  [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 13:58, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
-== height matter ==
-where did someone found the fact that Ali is 1.57 m??? The only place i could find that informartion was at IMDb and all of you have said before that IT IS NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE...[[User:Miss Bono|Miss Bono]] ([[User talk:Miss Bono|talk]]) 19:09, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
-:You added that as part of [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ali_Hewson&diff=523868815&oldid=518030003 this edit a few months ago].  Most of the edit was unnecessary and was backed out, but the infobox height remained.  You are right, IMDB is not to be used for things like this, so go ahead and remove it.  [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 03:03, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
-== FA Class ==
-[[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]], [[User:Theroadislong|Ther]] I was wondering if this article is ready for FA???<span style="font-family:'Arial',cursive"> [[User:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#000;"><small>'''Miss Bono '''</small></span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Miss Bono|<span style="color:red;"><small>(zootalk)</small></span>]]</span> 17:12, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
-:I'm sorry but I know nothing about featured article status.[[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 19:19, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
-::The criteria for featured article status are VERY VERY demanding take a look [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_criteria]] [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 20:21, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
-==Picture for Ali Hewson==
-[[User:Cullen328|Cullen]] and myself are working on getting a picture. <span style="font-family:'Arial',cursive"> [[User:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#000;"><small>'''Ms.Bono'''</small></span>]][[User talk:Miss Bono|<span style="color:red;"><small><sup>(zootalk)</sup></small></span>]]<sup><small>☆</small></sup></span> 20:16, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
-== Hector Grey Ali's grandfather or not? ==
-*"Ali Hewson, wife of Bono, is a granddaughter" (of Hector Grey) http://irishrollcall.com/2011/03/hector-grey/
-*"A loose relation of the colourful Dublin discount retailer, Hector Grey" http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/alis-still-the-sweetest-thing-30-years-on-26897159.html
-*"Her grandfather is Hector Grey, founder of the legendary Dublin department stores." http://www.rockworldmagazine.com/alison-hewson-the-woman-who-made-bono/
-* "From the horses mouth.... Ian Scott.... Hector's Grandson; There's no truth in the rumour that Ali Hewson, Bono's wife is Hector Grey's grand daughter." http://www.dublinforum.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-13899.html
-*"Some articles have stated that Hector was the Grandfather of Ali Hewson (nee Stewart) who married her childhood sweetheart Paul Hewson, who is better known as Bono - lead singer of Dublins' U2.) but others dispute this. " http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Ireland/County_Dublin/Dublin-296021/Off_the_Beaten_Path-Dublin-MISC-BR-1.html
-I'm inclined to accept Ali's fathers assurance that Hector Grey is NOT her grandfather and more recent mentions above would seem to confirm this. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 13:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-:I cannot read those article, [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]]. What do they say? Do they confirm that Mr. Grey is NOT her grandfather or the opposite? Is there any chance that the user is only using Ali's father's name but he is not that person? So confusing O_o <span style="font-family:'Arial',cursive"> [[User:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#000;"><small>'''Miss Bono'''</small></span>]][[User talk:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#c30000;"><small><sup> [zootalk]</sup></small></span>]]</span> 13:24, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-::I have written what they say before the links? [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 13:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-two say he is, two say he is not and the other says he is loose relation. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 13:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-::[[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] Should we contact Ali and ask her (I think we shouldn't because it would be from primary sources)? But I think it's better to remove the info or at least hide it and specify that it shouldn't be added until we are sure that she is or NOT his grand daughter. And then... If Ian is his grandson and he says that Ali is not her grand daughter so Ali is not Ian's sister.  <span style="font-family:'Arial',cursive"> [[User:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#000;"><small>'''Miss Bono'''</small></span>]][[User talk:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#c30000;"><small><sup> [zootalk]</sup></small></span>]]</span> 13:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-:::Unless Ali herself confirms this (somehow) I would leave the Hector Grey relation out the article. [[User:Ultra Violet Light|Ultra Violet Light]] ([[User talk:Ultra Violet Light|talk]]) 13:42, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-:::Agree. <span style="font-family:'Arial',cursive"> [[User:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#000;"><small>'''Miss Bono'''</small></span>]][[User talk:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#c30000;"><small><sup> [zootalk]</sup></small></span>]]</span> 13:43, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-::::It was already removed by [[User:Patrick Terence Stewart]] So we need to do nothing. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 13:48, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-::How can we make sure of the actual information?<span style="font-family:'Arial',cursive"> [[User:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#000;"><small>'''Miss Bono'''</small></span>]][[User talk:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#c30000;"><small><sup> [zootalk]</sup></small></span>]]</span> 13:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-:::When in doubt, leave it out.  [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 00:59, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
-*Well, we're not really in doubt; we've got a ton of sources saying it's the case. Do we have any evidence that the user in question ''is'' the relative? Or is there evidence here I'm missing? [[User:Ironholds|Ironholds]] ([[User talk:Ironholds|talk]]) 16:50, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
-::::As I asked before... is there any chance that the user is only using Ali's father's name but he is not that person? I mean, You can register yourself as Norman Hewson and start to edit [[Bono|his brother's article]] but you are not him. It is possible. So, what should we do?<span style="font-family:'Arial',cursive"> [[User:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#000;"><small>'''Miss Bono'''</small></span>]][[User talk:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#c30000;"><small><sup> [zootalk]</sup></small></span>]]</span> 16:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
-:::::My suggestion would be to reinclude the content, if all of the third-party sources support it, and drop the account a note asking him to verify his identity through OTRS. [[User:Ironholds|Ironholds]] ([[User talk:Ironholds|talk]]) 17:18, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
-::::::According Theroadislong there are two references which say that Ali isn't Grey's grand daughter. <span style="font-family:'Arial',cursive"> [[User:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#000;"><small>'''Miss Bono'''</small></span>]][[User talk:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#c30000;"><small><sup> [zootalk]</sup></small></span>]]</span> 17:25, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
-:::::::Yeah - one a forum post, and one a tertiary source ("according to unmentioned sources..."). I'm slightly uncomfortable making statements either way based on sources of that level of reliability. [[User:Ironholds|Ironholds]] ([[User talk:Ironholds|talk]]) 08:36, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
-:::::::{{ping|Ironholds}} Oh, I see. Sorry the misunderstanding. I cannot follow those links because I don't have full internet access.  <span style="font-family:'Arial',cursive"> [[User:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#000;"><small>'''Miss Bono'''</small></span>]][[User talk:Miss Bono|<span style="color:#c30000;"><small><sup> [zootalk]</sup></small></span>]]</span> 12:30, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

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