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== Non-encyclopedic nature == |
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This article does not read like a page from an encyclopedia. It reads like a page from a self-help book. It's unnecessarily flowery and dramatic, and the structure of the first sentence is extremely confusing. |
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[[Special:Contributions/65.49.39.70|65.49.39.70]] ([[User talk:65.49.39.70|talk]]) 00:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC) |
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Yeah, if that's original research, it's really good original research. I think it should be kept. [[User:Jesin|Jesin]] ([[User talk:Jesin|talk]]) 00:33, 21 May 2010 (UTC) |
Yeah, if that's original research, it's really good original research. I think it should be kept. [[User:Jesin|Jesin]] ([[User talk:Jesin|talk]]) 00:33, 21 May 2010 (UTC) |
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:[[WP:HEARSAY]] Is not sufficient to establish [[WP:v]], no matter how you slice it. Please establish a reference soon, or it will be removed.[[User:Ethanpet113|Ethanpet113]] ([[User talk:Ethanpet113|talk]]) 07:51, 5 November 2018 (UTC) |
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== Middle ground between being confident and overconfident == |
== Middle ground between being confident and overconfident == |
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Overconfidence can be a pro or a con. It is overall harmful and blinds one's perception of failing. Being overconfident keeps one from acknowledging loss, and thus does not create any secondary actions in case events go wrong. This includes retreating. When one is aware of their chances of losing, one can accurately weigh the consequences of continuing or quitting. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.204.130.21|74.204.130.21]] ([[User talk:74.204.130.21|talk]]) 02:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Overconfidence can be a pro or a con. It is overall harmful and blinds one's perception of failing. Being overconfident keeps one from acknowledging loss, and thus does not create any secondary actions in case events go wrong. This includes retreating. When one is aware of their chances of losing, one can accurately weigh the consequences of continuing or quitting. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.204.130.21|74.204.130.21]] ([[User talk:74.204.130.21|talk]]) 02:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== "Arrogance" and "Hubris" Mean Yourself == |
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It would be good to point out words for being overconfident in other people or things, but arrogance and hubris don't work, those can only refer to the self.[[Special:Contributions/35.8.141.143|35.8.141.143]] ([[User talk:35.8.141.143|talk]]) 20:43, 11 January 2013 (UTC) |
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:So what words would you suggest? [[User:Lova_Falk|<span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-family:Segoe Print;color:#e75e03">'''Lova Falk'''</span></span>]] [[User talk:Lova Falk|<span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-family:Segoe Print;color:#336699">talk</span></span>]] 21:19, 11 January 2013 (UTC) |
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This article is written like a blogpost. I highly recommend re-writing the entire thing. Best regards. [[User:Doctor Papa Jones|Doctor Papa Jones]] • ([[User talk:Doctor Papa Jones#top|Click here to collect your prize!]]) 09:27, 15 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:That's very helpful. Thanks. [[User:Natureium|Natureium]] ([[User talk:Natureium|talk]]) 15:48, 15 November 2017 (UTC) |
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Most of it has been rewritten to rely on scholarly, academic research published in peer-reviewed journals. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.33.2.91|72.33.2.91]] ([[User talk:72.33.2.91#top|talk]]) 20:10, 12 November 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Merge With [[Self-confidence]] == |
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Do they differ in any measurable way, I would actually import this article into [[self-confidence]] and rename [[self-confidence]] just to confidence (which semantically is merging it into this, but practically is way easier the other way around).[[User:Ethanpet113|Ethanpet113]] ([[User talk:Ethanpet113|talk]]) 08:00, 5 November 2018 (UTC) |
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I agree with a merge and rename just to confidence. |
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:{{merge done}} [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 11:13, 26 January 2020 (UTC) |
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:Reading the article, only later reading this talk to merge confidence and self-confidence, it felt, apart from the first paragraph I was reading a self-confidence article. I believe <u>self-confidence</u> should be the title and maybe linked to concepts of confidence under [[Confidence (disambiguation)]] [[User:FrazWill|FrazWill]] ([[User talk:FrazWill|talk]]) 13:59, 5 December 2022 (UTC) |
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== Self-confidence is not self-esteem. == |
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Some articles cited regard self-esteem and not self-confidence. It's regarded as a different attribute and has a separate wiki article. [[Special:Contributions/213.8.241.210|213.8.241.210]] ([[User talk:213.8.241.210|talk]]) 12:51, 15 February 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 January 2020 and 25 April 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Strengthatheart.
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Non-encyclopedic nature
[edit]This article does not read like a page from an encyclopedia. It reads like a page from a self-help book. It's unnecessarily flowery and dramatic, and the structure of the first sentence is extremely confusing.
65.49.39.70 (talk) 00:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
original research ?
[edit]someone added original research tags to sentences in this article, while this may be the case, I find those words to ring particularly true, as if I've heard that elsewhere I hope someone can cite works that come to the same conclusion because I also found the way those sentences were put together enlightening 67.212.7.249 (talk) 07:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, if that's original research, it's really good original research. I think it should be kept. Jesin (talk) 00:33, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- WP:HEARSAY Is not sufficient to establish WP:v, no matter how you slice it. Please establish a reference soon, or it will be removed.Ethanpet113 (talk) 07:51, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Middle ground between being confident and overconfident
[edit]Overconfidence can be a pro or a con. It is overall harmful and blinds one's perception of failing. Being overconfident keeps one from acknowledging loss, and thus does not create any secondary actions in case events go wrong. This includes retreating. When one is aware of their chances of losing, one can accurately weigh the consequences of continuing or quitting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.204.130.21 (talk) 02:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
"Arrogance" and "Hubris" Mean Yourself
[edit]It would be good to point out words for being overconfident in other people or things, but arrogance and hubris don't work, those can only refer to the self.35.8.141.143 (talk) 20:43, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- So what words would you suggest? Lova Falk talk 21:19, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
What is this?!
[edit]This article is written like a blogpost. I highly recommend re-writing the entire thing. Best regards. Doctor Papa Jones • (Click here to collect your prize!) 09:27, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- That's very helpful. Thanks. Natureium (talk) 15:48, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Most of it has been rewritten to rely on scholarly, academic research published in peer-reviewed journals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.33.2.91 (talk) 20:10, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Merge With Self-confidence
[edit]Do they differ in any measurable way, I would actually import this article into self-confidence and rename self-confidence just to confidence (which semantically is merging it into this, but practically is way easier the other way around).Ethanpet113 (talk) 08:00, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I agree with a merge and rename just to confidence.
- Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 11:13, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reading the article, only later reading this talk to merge confidence and self-confidence, it felt, apart from the first paragraph I was reading a self-confidence article. I believe self-confidence should be the title and maybe linked to concepts of confidence under Confidence (disambiguation) FrazWill (talk) 13:59, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Adult Development winter 2024
[edit]This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 January 2024 and 20 April 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): AmnesiaSactoa (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by AmnesiaSactoa (talk) 22:36, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Self-confidence is not self-esteem.
[edit]Some articles cited regard self-esteem and not self-confidence. It's regarded as a different attribute and has a separate wiki article. 213.8.241.210 (talk) 12:51, 15 February 2024 (UTC)