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== ALBUM ART == |
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this si tghe official album art, http://www.britneyspears.com/ <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.69.152.211|84.69.152.211]] ([[User talk:84.69.152.211|talk]]) 19:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Double Entendre?== |
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can somebody add that it was played during the pandora episode of skins a channel 4 tv show in the untied kingdom, link to episode on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Skins_episodes#Series_3 much appreciated <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.194.164.88|90.194.164.88]] ([[User talk:90.194.164.88|talk]]) 17:02, 24 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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A double entendre (French pronunciation: [dublɑ̃tɑ̃dʁə]) or adianoeta[1] is a figure of speech in which a spoken phrase is devised to be understood in either of two ways. Often the first (more obvious) meaning is straightforward, while the second meaning is less so: often risqué, inappropriate, or ironic. |
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== Wrong title == |
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Okay, I get the F-U-C-K me risque meaning, but what is the straightforward meaning? I'm having a hell of a time parsing "All the girls and all the boys are begging to if you seek Amy" in a non-dirty manner. [[Special:Contributions/66.27.169.123|66.27.169.123]] ([[User talk:66.27.169.123|talk]]) 08:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC) |
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If the article survives Speedy, needs to be renamed without "(song)". [[User:PamD|PamD]] ([[User talk:PamD|talk]]) 08:59, 19 November 2008 (UTC) |
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:I don't really think there is a straightforward meaning. I think it was just intended to be a sneaky way of saying "fuck me" weather it makes sense another way or not. There is even a fake news report at the beginning and the end of the video of the song in which the reporter says "If...you...seek...Amy. Doesn't make any sense does it?" [[User:Rouse52794|Rouse52794]] ([[User talk:Rouse52794|talk]]) 20:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC) |
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... Just did it anyway - not allowed under AfD but think it's OK with a speedy. [[User:PamD|PamD]] ([[User talk:PamD|talk]]) 09:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC) |
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==Genre== |
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== Officially announced as 3rd single == |
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Well, I corrected all the mistakes and since i'm trying to nominate the article again for GA, i feel like this issue should be discussed. In my opinion, the genre should be pop as various sources said that it is just influenced by other pop genres like electropop and synthpop. [[User:Xwomanizerx|Xwomanizerx]] ([[User talk:Xwomanizerx|talk]]) 13:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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I agree as well that the genre should be Pop. I think it sounds more Pop than it does Electro. Songs like Womanizer, Shattered Glass and Mannequin have more of an electro pop vibe, and this song doesn't really fit that type of sound. [[User:Percxyz|Percxyz]] <small>([[User talk:Percxyz|Call me Percy, ]]</small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Percxyz|it's easier)]]</small> 18:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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On her 2 official websites, [http://www.britneyspears.com/2009/01/breaking-news-britneys-3rd-single.php Britneyspears.com] and [http://www.britney.com/blog/drumroll-bes Britney.com][[User:UKWiki|UKWiki]] ([[User talk:UKWiki|talk]]) 21:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:One has blog in the title, the other was written by "lead bitch", no reliable sources, redirected. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 21:03, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Since [http://www.britney.com/blog/drumroll-bes Britney.com] is the official website of Jive Records for the artist, I think it's reliable.--[[User:Sakrileg|Sakrileg]] ([[User talk:Sakrileg|talk]]) 21:36, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Blog. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 21:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Not just a blog. [[User:CloversMallRat|CloversMallRat]] ([[User talk:CloversMallRat|talk]]) 04:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC) |
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The reason I think [[electropop]] should be in the genre is because electro style of music was obviously incorporated into the song. It's not about more pop or more elctro. It's pop ''and'' electro, hence the genre [[electropop]]. I don't think Shattered Glass sounds very electropop at all, and If U Seek Amy sounds much elctropop than Mannequin does IMO. I think the genre of this song would be fine with ''Pop, electropop''. There is even a category in the article titled ''Electropop songs.'' Oh, can someone let me know why it's so vital to leave electropop out of the genre? Britney's song [[Break the Ice (Britney Spears song)|Break the Ice]] is 2% electropop at the most, but electropop is still listed in the genre. of that song. If U Seek Amy is much more electropop than Break the Ice, but electropop shouldn't be listed in it's genre? [[User:Surelyhuman|Surelyhuman]] ([[User talk:Surelyhuman|talk]]) 21:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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== If U Seek Amy == |
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:Just my two cents, but I think the genre should be [[dance-pop]]. '''[[User talk:Chasewc91|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #0086A8">Chase wc</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Chasewc91|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #699812"><sup>91</sup></span>]]''' 21:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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If U Seek Amy is a song by American Pop Singer [[Britney Spears]].The song was announced to be the third single off of album [[Circus (Britney Spears Album)|Circus]] on January 7, 2009.<ref name="Britney Spears If U Seek Amy">{{cite news|url=http://www.britneyspears.com/2009/01/breaking-news-britneys-3rd-single.php|title=Breaking News : Britney's 3rd Single!|date=2009-01-07|publisher=[[BritneySpears.com]]|accessdate=2008-01-07}}</ref> |
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::So, should i list the article as Pop, Electropop?. [[User:Xwomanizerx|Xwomanizerx]] ([[User talk:Xwomanizerx|talk]]) 20:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC) |
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:::There's not enough electropop in the song to have it listed as a genre IMO. I'd just put it as dance-pop since it incorporates elements of pop and dance music. But whatever consensus turns out to be, I'm all for. '''[[User talk:Chasewc91|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #0086A8">Chase wc</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Chasewc91|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #699812"><sup>91</sup></span>]]''' 01:37, 27 December 2009 (UTC) |
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REALIST2 - BRITNEYSPEARS.com IS HER OFFICIAL, OFFICIAL O-F-F-I-C-I-A-L Website, And 'Lead Bitch' is one of the members of HER team! |
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::::Yeah, just checked the article and I guess "pop, electropop" is fine. As long as the genre warring stops, everything should be okay. Try for GA again in a few weeks. '''[[User talk:Chasewc91|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #0086A8">Chase wc</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Chasewc91|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #699812"><sup>91</sup></span>]]''' 01:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC) |
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==Pink hammer== |
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Interesting that she was holding a pink hammer during the live performance. That seems to be a reference to the ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' video game series, where a pink character called Amy has a giant cartoon hammer as her regular weapon. [[Special:Contributions/86.131.98.77|86.131.98.77]] ([[User talk:86.131.98.77|talk]]) 13:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC) |
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BRITNEYSPEARS.com IS HER OFFICIAL, OFFICIAL O-F-F-I-C-I-A-L Website, And 'Lead Bitch' is one of the members of HER team! |
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:Yeah, i noted the same and added that a while ago, but there are no references for it from a third party. [[User:Xwomanizerx|Xwomanizerx]] ([[User talk:Xwomanizerx|talk]]) 14:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC) |
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:Nope, these sites have repeated made factually inaccuracies in the past, like claiming the album had been certified platinum by the [[RIAA]]. The RIAA has not certified it. One blog and another claim written by "lead bitch" does not warrant the creation of the article. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 22:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Spears's official website is www.britney.com. Until it is confirmed there, or on her label's website, or by a reliable third party, then there is no reliable source. - [[User:Ericorbit|eo]] ([[User talk:Ericorbit|talk]]) 22:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Please also note that blogs are not reliable. See [[WP:Reliable sources]]. - [[User:Ericorbit|eo]] ([[User talk:Ericorbit|talk]]) 22:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Is the song a shoot-back at Amy Lee of Evanescence? == |
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OK!Britney.com confirmed it as well > http://www.britney.com/blog/drumroll-bes, It's true!Also, A Blog!Can't be trusted now? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Zefron12|Zefron12]] ([[User talk:Zefron12|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zefron12|contribs]]) 22:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:No blogs cannot be trusted, you've need told this. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 22:47, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Realist, I'm not trying to vandalize.But Britney.com is her official label site, It uses a blog system, So What? It's still an official source that can be trusted!If U Seek Amy is her next single! <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Zefron12|Zefron12]] ([[User talk:Zefron12|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zefron12|contribs]]) 23:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Several years back, gothic rock band [[Evanescence]] wrote a song called "[[Everybody's Fool]]" as an insult to Britney Spears and other female dance-pop artists. Since the lead singer is named '''[[Amy Lee]]''', could this song be a shoot-back at her? |
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Calm down, be patient. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 23:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Of course not, it's f-u-c-k me <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.155.191.43|84.155.191.43]] ([[User talk:84.155.191.43|talk]]) 22:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Well, true, but I'm talking about the title itself, and what the "Amy" in the title refers to. Amy Lee was a notable hater of Britney Spears, stating that her younger sister, Carrie Lee, used to dress up like Spears, and Lee hated it, so she wrote the song "Everybody's Fool" about her. That's why I was thinking that this song may be a response to Evanescence. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/130.156.8.189|130.156.8.189]] ([[User talk:130.156.8.189|talk]]) 19:16, 25 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Update== |
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Based on a new source at the album page, I have asked Ericorbit to unprotect this article, allowing you all to edit. So long as he agrees the source is reliable, he might very well not, the article should be editable within the next 6-7 hours (when he's next online). Best, and thanks for staying patient throughout all this *Rolls eyes*. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 05:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Done. - [[User:Ericorbit|eo]] ([[User talk:Ericorbit|talk]]) 11:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that the Background section is incorrect. The poll on her official website is entitled: "Poll: Guess Britney's Next Single" and so the choice of single was not reliant on the outcome of the poll. Tomayres 19:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Is that the official cover? I knw they had contest to make fan-made covers, but I don't remember seeing that one. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Enanoj1111|Enanoj1111]] ([[User talk:Enanoj1111|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Enanoj1111|contribs]]) 22:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:No that appears to be an image to promote the contest itself. Any official covers will probably be reported on the official sites saying "This is the official single cover" or something to that effect. [[User:AngelOfSadness|<span style="background:#000000 ; color: #30D5C8;"> AngelOfSadness </span>]][[User_talk:AngelOfSadness|<span style="background: #000000; color: #FF69B4;"> talk </span>]] 23:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Yeah, Britney Fans tend to make fake covers on all these silly sites. That's why [[Radar (song)]] was fully protected at least once. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 23:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Ok, thank you. :) [[User:Enanoj1111|Enanoj1111]] ([[User talk:Enanoj1111|talk]]) 23:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Cheers.—[[User:Cyberbot II|<sup style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot II</sup>]]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Cyberbot II|<span style="color:green">Talk to my owner</span>]]:Online</sub></small> 19:17, 24 May 2016 (UTC) |
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==Public Reaction== |
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The first sentence of the public reaction piece is a little awkward as it says "Some parents thought the titled sounds like "F-U-C-K Me"" In fact, that is what it sounds like because that is what is intended in the song. Does that make sense? I think it should be more along the lines of "some parents were offended by the double meaning of the song and its title". |
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:There is no proof that the alleged similarity was intentional. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 04:30, 11 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::really? REALLY? because every single review in the above section "critical reaction" refers to the chorus as "F-U-C-K me" and the chorus "all the boys and the girls want to If You Seek Amy" actually ONLY makes sense as the double entendre. are we really going to say that "Some parents thought the title "If U Seek Amy" sounds like "F-U-C-K Me" when said aloud and sung."? because that seems a bit naive, even for wikipedia. |
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::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vysgvjvH3ZA, there is a video of Larry Rudolph saying that the song is "provacative and interesting", he wouldn't say that if the song were simply about people looking for Amy. It's pretty much common sense. "All of the boys and all of the girls are begging to if u seek amy" doesn't make sense at all in the sense of people looking for someone. It was an intended double meaning. Not only that interview, but several of the review for the album that point out that song use the sentence "say it quickly" or something along those lines when referring to the title of the song. |
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Just go through the list of links from the reviews for the album to find what I mean. Maybe this is making something out of nothing, but common sense tells the listener that the song contains a double meaning. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.236.87.149|96.236.87.149]] ([[User talk:96.236.87.149|talk]]) 23:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::We can't use youtube as a source. Still, I'm not disputing that it could sound like that, it's just that we have [[WP:RS|no proof]] that was the intent when the song was created. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 23:36, 11 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::I am wondering who's work is this video. Maybe we can cite it instead of youtube. --[[User:Efe|Efe]] ([[User talk:Efe|talk]]) 03:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::In the professional review for ''The Independent'' states that the song's title does mean F-U-C-K Me, its not coincidental at all. [[User:CloversMallRat|CloversMallRat]] ([[User talk:CloversMallRat|talk]]) 04:23, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::Hmm, it's still an opinion or interpretation of the lyrics and sound. I'm sure we can find a source that categorically confirms it—these would be a production detail, fro the people who made the album. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 04:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::But, we can actually add them, some sort of interpretation of the title, as long as the source is reliable. This song is likely to create a buzz. --[[User:Efe|Efe]] ([[User talk:Efe|talk]]) 06:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::::Oh definitely, so long as it's made perfectly clear that it's just an interpretation. However I image at some point we will get a source from the people who made the record. Frankly I thought "Unusual You" would have been a better 3rd single :D — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 06:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Hopefully they will speak up about the record. --[[User:Efe|Efe]] ([[User talk:Efe|talk]]) 06:10, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Anyone heard the radio edit yet? "if u" is edited out so all you hear now is "seek Amy". I agree with Realist though, "Unusual You" is '''much''' better. [[User:Xamkou|Xamkou]] ([[User talk:Xamkou|talk]]) 16:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Maybe that will also be reported soon. Keep an eye out on Google News. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 16:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
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[[MTV UK]] [http://www.mtv.co.uk/channel/mtvuk/news/471045-britney-spears-renames-sexy-song reported] that Spears will re-recorded a "new version" of the song:<blockquote> |
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Britney Spears will rename her next single after claims the explicit song could be banned. |
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The track was called If You Seek Amy- say it fast and it’s certainly and interesting invite. |
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But now she’s changed one letter to keep radio stations in the US happy- it's now titled "If You See Amy."</blockquote>'''<font color="00778F">[[User:Sparks Fly|Sparks]]</font> <font color="009FBF">[[User talk:Sparks Fly|Fly]]</font>''' 15:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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just because someone writing for a newspaper claims that if u seek amy is a pun for fuck, hardly means we should be into such a ludicrous claim. a little critical thinking here would at a minimum suggest that it's a rather failed example of paronomasia, and we should reject either the fevered and hopeful ruminations of the imaginative, or the rather poor play on words of the author. in either case, it fails if the author truly meant it thus. -- chris |
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Hi all, the section on the critical response seems to include all the reviews that are tehre for the album, not the single. As is seen before, album reviews of a song differs from single reviews, should we keep those reviews or remove them and wait till the single reviews come out? [[User:Legolas2186|"Legolas"]] ([[User talk:Legolas2186|talk]]) 04:48, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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P.S.: Unusual you would have been a really cool single, but then again, If U Seek Amy, with its interpretaion, rocks!! :-) |
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:No comments from album reviews are perfectly acceptable. The more reputable reviewers don't review singles. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 04:52, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== If U Seek Amy or If U See Amy? == |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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Which title should be used? I think the first one is fine since that ban is only in the US. But shall we wait and see whether its the same thing in other countries? [[User:Legolas2186|"Legolas"]] ([[User talk:Legolas2186|talk]]) 13:15, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:It is the same as [[Snoop Dogg]]'s "[[Sexual Eruption]]", so we should do the same: the article's title should be If U '''Seek''' Amy and we should mention the alternate lyrics, maybe in the lead section. Something like this: |
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"'''If U Seek Amy'''" (also known by the censored version title "'''If U See Amy'''" is (...)</blockquote>'''<font color="00778F">[[User:Sparks Fly|Sparks]]</font> <font color="009FBF">[[User talk:Sparks Fly|Fly]]</font>''' 15:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:: The song is originally called "If U Seek Amy." The only reason they had to drop the "k" is because some overprotective parents are trying to censor private radio broadcasting. If you don't like it, don't listen to it, but don't infringe on other people's right to hear it. I think a critical analysis should be added to the article that could explain exactly who is behind these censoring measures and on what constitutional basis are they limiting free speech, especially when it concerns private radio, not publicly funded broadcasting. - Peter <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.90.29.68|71.90.29.68]] ([[User talk:71.90.29.68|talk]]) 20:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Music Video == |
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Please correct this, the English is poor. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:321lexingtona|321lexingtona]] ([[User talk:321lexingtona|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/321lexingtona|contribs]]) 00:08, 30 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I think this is not a reliable info. And the linked article doesn't say anything about Madonna.--[[User:Sakrileg|Sakrileg]] ([[User talk:Sakrileg|talk]]) 00:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Removed. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''Realist'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 00:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Why must sources be entered in a different language? |
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If you can't get an Enlgish translation please don't put it up. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Christopheraymond|Christopheraymond]] ([[User talk:Christopheraymond|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Christopheraymond|contribs]]) 04:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Sources do not have to be in English. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 04:46, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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: then how would you know what it's saying? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/114.76.158.241|114.76.158.241]] ([[User talk:114.76.158.241|talk]]) 12:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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Here the translation of: http://www.teamworld.it/news/1314/britney-spears-if-u-seek-amy-nuovo-singolo.aspx |
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"28/01/2009 - It's "If U Seek Amy" the new single by Britney Spears. |
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The song is the third excerpt from Album "Circus" after the successfull "Womanizer" and "Circus", which reconfirmed once again Britney as the one true Princess of Pop. |
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"If U Seek Amy" looks like a success and the video that will accompany the shot on 10 February. |
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A few weeks waiting then, but it is certainly well worth it. |
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Start your countdown along with members of the Official Italian Forum of Britney Spears!" |
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--[[User:Smanu|Smanu]] ([[User talk:Smanu|talk]]) 14:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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The whole Madonna, Justin part in the article made me laugh, but seriously some people need a life, oh and it says it sold over 100,000 downloads, i think not if someone could fix that, thanks. [[Special:Contributions/89.100.221.196|89.100.221.196]] ([[User |
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The reporter in the music video was spoofing a fox news reporter who got very angry over Britneys hidden message. You can see the clip on perez hiltons website. She said Britney's "lame code" haha. |
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:[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-5B68OqUXU Very true], but it needs to be noted by a third party source. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 02:44, 13 March 2009 (UTC) |
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I didnt see her "family" in the music video hide their faces. Maybe I didnt see something lol. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.50.162.253|96.50.162.253]] ([[User talk:96.50.162.253|talk]]) 02:56, 15 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Downloads== |
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It did sell over 100,000 downloads... |
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The music video will be directed by Jake Nava, who worked with Britney before on [[My Prerogative]]. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Felipeedoardo|Felipeedoardo]] ([[User talk:Felipeedoardo|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Felipeedoardo|contribs]]) 16:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> If U Seek Amy music video comes exclusivly available on iTunes in Mid'March. |
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If it sold 100,000 downloads then put a source, that one beside it says something about parents being upset by the song, PROPER source please. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.100.221.196|89.100.221.196]] ([[User talk:89.100.221.196|talk]]) 19:47, 10 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Billboard is a very reliable source for the claim. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 19:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Well what i'm saying is the source provided goes to an article about the parents being upset over the song, nothing about download there. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.100.221.196|89.100.221.196]] ([[User talk:89.100.221.196|talk]]) 00:31, 17 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Sorry, i didn't see the last paragraph of the article, my mistake i should of read it more clearly. Sorry again. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.100.221.196|89.100.221.196]] ([[User talk:89.100.221.196|talk]]) 00:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:No problem. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 00:55, 18 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Australian Single Information == |
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According to Britney's Australian label, If U Seek Amy, is being released 14 March 2009 with ''Circus (Joe Bermudez Radio Remix)'' and the ''Main Version'' of the song itself. It also claims it will be released on a 3-inch CD Single, different from the standard 5-inch CD Single. |
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It is from SonyB2B Australia, sadly I cannot give out a log in for all to see, but I will take a screencap if needed. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:TheRevolution7|TheRevolution7]] ([[User talk:TheRevolution7|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheRevolution7|contribs]]) 06:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Take a screencap <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/140.159.2.32|140.159.2.32]] ([[User talk:140.159.2.32|talk]]) 22:22, 16 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==US Release== |
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I just heard it on the radio an hour ago.... --[[User:ShadowRanger|-Shadow]] ([[User talk:ShadowRanger|talk]]) 04:26, 18 February 2009 (UTC) |
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==Music Video== |
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Can someone add a source to where the info for the premiere is. And correct the english. 'It will have his premiere March 2nd' doesn't make sense. |
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::DO NOT add a video premiere UNLESS the source you have is valid. |
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== "If U See Amy" only in the US? == |
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It's also censored in Australia. See the Facebook group [http://www.facebook.com/s.php?ref=search&init=q&q=bring%20back%20the%20k%20in%20britney%27s&sid=26d8ca374b0634cb0044441fd78123d8#/group.php?sid=26d8ca374b0634cb0044441fd78123d8&gid=62655357782 here]. I don't think you have to be signed in to see it but anyway it's a protest group started by someone in Australia. I've also heard a lot about it on the Aussie radio, and they also play the "censored" version. Either way, it's clearly not JUST a US release. I can't find anything definitive on Google about it, but the section should still be clarified. '''--[[User:MPD01605|<font style="color: #FF0000">M</font><font style="color: #000099">PD</font>]]<sup> [[User talk:MPD01605|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/MPD01605|C]]</sup>''' 00:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Until we have reliable sources (not facebook) that document censorship in Australia, it's just the US. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 00:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::There are no reliable sources that it's limited to the US. US stations threatened to ban the song, but there is nothing that says it's restricted to the US nor that it's "mandated" to the US. Facebook's not a reliable source, I know, but the fact that the song is being played on Aussie radio negates the suggestion that it's limited to the States. '''--[[User:MPD01605|<font style="color: #FF0000">M</font><font style="color: #000099">PD</font>]]<sup> [[User talk:MPD01605|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/MPD01605|C]]</sup>''' 01:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::No, the source says she did change it to If You 'see' Amy, in the US, but this was done voluntarily. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 12:11, 22 February 2009 (UTC) |
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MPD T / C is right. In Australia, the 'If U See Amy' version is played during the day, whilst 'If U Seek Amy' is played in the evening. |
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:Please find a reliable source for your comment. <font color="blue">[[User:Legolas2186|--'''Legolas!!''']]</font> [[User talk:Legolas2186|<sup>(<font color="red">talk</font><font color="green">to</font><font color="orange">me</font>)</sup>]] 06:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::I don't think there is any liable source for this, radio stations just went ahead and played the censored version. But I if I can find a source, I'll post. |
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:::No, none of those sources suggest that it's limited to the US. The sources say it was changed to make the US radio stations happy, which are not the same thing. And the one source for the last line (sourch [http://www.mtv.co.uk/channel/mtvuk/news/471045-britney-spears-renames-sexy-song 12]), has one minor section that says "But now she’s changed one letter to keep radio stations in the US happy- it’s now titled ‘If You See Amy.’", which does not appropriately source the line in the article "The "If U See Amy" version will only be released to US radio, with the music video and the international radio single being both "If U Seek Amy"." I have a [http://www.flickr.com/photos/mpd01605/3306915487 recording] of an instance of the "censored" version on a Sydney (NSW) radio station, and then a second clip of a nationally-syndicated show talking about the change. It's not officially censored, but it's being played, which still is contrary to the what the article says. '''--[[User:MPD01605|<font style="color: #FF0000">M</font><font style="color: #000099">PD</font>]]<sup> [[User talk:MPD01605|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/MPD01605|C]]</sup>''' 22:41, 24 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Nobody is saying that the censored version is only to US, MPD01605. The fact is that, until now, we don't have any [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] that states a other country is using the "If You See Amy" version, besides US. '''<font color="00778F">[[User:Sparks Fly|Sparks]]</font> <font color="009FBF">[[User talk:Sparks Fly|Fly]]</font>''' 22:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Correct, at the moment we only have confirmation it's affecting the US. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 00:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::http://www.flickr.com/photos/mpd01605/3306915487 is that enough source? |
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::::::Sorry, it must be mentioned in reliable third party sources. We can't accept images as sources. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 00:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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I think that it will played on worldwide radio stations as "If you <b>see</b> Amy", we should wait until it is released worldwide before putting it in the article and when we have reliable sources. Currently (as far as I'm aware), it is only released in USA and Australia. [[User:BritneysBetch|BritneysBetch]] ([[User talk:BritneysBetch|talk]]) 01:30, 14 March 2009 (UTC) |
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It's played on french radios as "if you seek amy". ;) Jenoo <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/78.114.45.233|78.114.45.233]] ([[User talk:78.114.45.233|talk]]) 12:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:We need third party sources to document it, otherwise it can't be mentioned. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 12:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Depends on the radio stations you listen to. Nova and 2day fm don't censor it as far as I know. But then again like MPD01605 said, they may play the censored version in the day and the original at night. I'm always listening to the radio at night. I usually listen online coz sometimes my actual cd player radio thingys reception is only average as far as quality goes. As far as that protest group in Australia goes, they need to get a life! If they don't like swearing then why do they choose to they even bother to associate with the song. Sad that they come from my country lol! On the Hot 30 Countdown I heard Tim and Bigzy talking about how the censor it in the US. They said that they are more casual about it and don't really care if it means "Fuck Me" [[User:Child Funk|Child Funk]] ([[User talk:Child Funk|talk]]) 11:38, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Live Performances == |
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It should mention that it was performed live during her tour prior to its official release. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.0.95.132|24.0.95.132]] ([[User talk:24.0.95.132|talk]]) 00:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== what? == |
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if u seek amy has rose up the billboard charts |
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take a look |
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HOT 100:[[http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/esearch/chart_display.jsp?cfi=379&cfgn=Singles&cfn=The+Billboard+Hot+100&ci=3106697&cdi=10150489&cid=03%2F14%2F2009]] |
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POP 100:[[http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/esearch/chart_display.jsp?cfi=396&cfgn=Singles&cfn=Pop+100&ci=3106718&cdi=10151113&cid=03%2F14%2F2009]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.132.57.63|69.132.57.63]] ([[User talk:69.132.57.63|talk]]) 22:23, 5 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Thanks. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 22:38, 5 March 2009 (UTC) |
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The Britney Spears article says that If U Seek Amy peaked at 72 in the Hot 100 chart: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_Spears_discography#Singles <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/193.51.16.187|193.51.16.187]] ([[User talk:193.51.16.187|talk]]) 23:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Music video images == |
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OMG, the second images of the music video is so creepy, she looks like [[The Exorcist (film)|The Exorcist]] --[[User:Smanu|Smanu]] ([[User talk:Smanu|talk]]) 15:06, 14 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Oh my gosh, lol - we should get another pic Tokeltel 16:01, 14 March 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tokeltel|Tokeltel]] ([[User talk:Tokeltel|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tokeltel|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Genre of the song (this is not only "pop"!) == |
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I think "pop" doesn't definite well the song. It's not pop, it's electropop at least. Maybe to write "Electropop, dance-pop" or something like that would be better. -frank |
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:We need reliable sources from a third party. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 23:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Is this ok?: "Different than Martin's previous produced tracks for Spears, "If U Seek Amy" is an electro-pop dance song, in which even the lyrics shows a different, more dance-oriented Max Martin." from wikipedia, the Max Martin page -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Martin#Backstreet_Boys_and_Britney_Spears - frank <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.68.216.126|76.68.216.126]] ([[User talk:76.68.216.126|talk]]) 02:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Sorry, we are not allowed to use other Wikipedia articles as sources. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 02:39, 23 March 2009 (UTC) |
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What about this? "A stomping dancefloor beat with building synths", from Billboard, http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/reviews-singles/if-u-seek-amy-1003956184.story (it's a kind of dance-pop song description) I just don't like to see this song only definited as "pop"! It's not a Celine Dion song. -frank <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.24.188.217|70.24.188.217]] ([[User talk:70.24.188.217|talk]]) 17:03, 29 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Britney Spears is a typical pop musician therefore this song is pop! If you look at the technics of this song then yes, you will discover other sub genres, but wouldn't you find that they are all somehow related to pop. Pop is a generalisation. Many songs contain many genres, sometimes we just have to keep it simple! --[[User:Child Funk|Child Funk]] ([[User talk:Child Funk|talk]]) 05:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:Definitely not Electro-pop. <font color="blue">[[User:Legolas2186|--'''''Legolas''''']]</font> [[User talk:Legolas2186|<sup>(<font color="red">talk</font><font color="green">to</font><font color="orange">me</font>)</sup>]] 05:17, 31 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::If you can find a reliable source stating other genres then go for it! [[User:Xamkou|Xamkou]] ([[User talk:Xamkou|talk]]) 15:57, 31 March 2009 (UTC) |
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I'll find it, you'll see :) - frank |
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:::I'm not disagreeing with you, I believe it has other sub-genres but we can't state so until it's sourced. [[User:Slowpoke|<font color="black"><b>S</b>low</font><font color="grey">poke</font>]] [[User talk:Slowpoke|<font color="black"><small>(talk)</small></font>]] 16:22, 2 April 2009 (UTC) |
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== Release dates == |
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Why has the release date for the UK been changed to March 16, 2009? The digital download and physical releases are both due on May 4, 2009. It hasn't even begun to receive any radio/video airplay in the UK yet. [[User:Xamkou|Xamkou]] ([[User talk:Xamkou|talk]]) 14:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Censored in UK also == |
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It has been receiving heavy airplay on UK music channels and the title of the song has been censored to IF U See Amy, as well as the 'kay' sound removed from the song. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.206.187.72|90.206.187.72]] ([[User talk:90.206.187.72|talk]]) 12:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Again, we need sources. 15:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)— [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] |
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if it helps ive jsut seen it on chart show lol, it was deifnaltey if u see amy because i was screaming for about half an hour after ([[User:Toxicbomb2004|Toxicbomb2004]] ([[User talk:Toxicbomb2004|talk]]) 21:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)) |
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got a source guys http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/toxicbomb2004/DSCF1840.jpg i took it on my camera about half an hour ago ([[User:Toxicbomb2004|Toxicbomb2004]] ([[User talk:Toxicbomb2004|talk]]) 21:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)) |
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:Thanks, but again, third party sources must mention it, otherwise it lacks notability and can't be mentioned. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 00:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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I've got a source from galaxy radio playlist. http://www.galaxyyorkshire.co.uk/playlist-2007 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.172.7.7|86.172.7.7]] ([[User talk:86.172.7.7|talk]]) 18:52, 28 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:That's one playlist and since it's not a third party source mentioning the censorship, it fails to meet the notability requirements. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 18:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== "Rock Boy" as Australian B-side == |
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Source, please!!! [[User:Heidijo236|Heidijo236]] ([[User talk:Heidijo236|talk]]) 04:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:I removed the B-side thing since it's unsourced. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 18:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Music Video Picture == |
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Im sorry I know this is stupid to be saying. The music video picture needs to be changed. It looks like she is going to actually kill someone. Plus the lighting in it sucks. --[[User:Spiderman2351|Spiderman2351]] ([[User talk:Spiderman2351|talk]]) 21:28, 1 April 2009 (UTC)Spiderman2351 |
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== Radio Edit == |
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The radio edit I have heard says "All of the boys and all of the girls are begging to ... seek Amy." Should this be included? [[Special:Contributions/98.27.131.215|98.27.131.215]] ([[User talk:98.27.131.215|talk]]) 20:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:Only if third party sourced mention it. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 20:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::It's on YouTube... lol I didn't research. [[Special:Contributions/98.27.131.215|98.27.131.215]] ([[User talk:98.27.131.215|talk]]) 21:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC) |
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==Bloat== |
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What is the need for having "it was going to be filmed on date x but was instead filmed on date x+2"? Relevance? --[[Special:Contributions/86.41.134.221|86.41.134.221]] ([[User talk:86.41.134.221|talk]]) 21:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:The article is not bloated. We are not a paper encyclopedia and allow in depth detail. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 21:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::I agree that in depth detail is allowed but here it is totally unnecessary. What is the use of knowing the planned start date for filming of the "If U Seek Amy" video? I don't know why you're persisting in attacking me on this issue. I'm a casual user and I just want to make wikipedia better, and regular editors such as yourself are making my life impossible.--[[Special:Contributions/86.41.134.221|86.41.134.221]] ([[User talk:86.41.134.221|talk]]) 21:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::If no-one has any objections, I will be removing this detail: "The music video was originally planned to begin shooting on February 10, 2009, but instead began filming on February 7, 2009" tomorrow. Please make your case for including it below.--[[Special:Contributions/86.41.134.221|86.41.134.221]] ([[User talk:86.41.134.221|talk]]) 21:58, 7 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::::You have to attain consensus, which involves waiting a few days at the very least. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 22:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Um, he wasn't attacking you. While it may not be the most important point in the article, it is still a fact about the music video and has a right to be included in the entry. [[User:Hpswimmer|Hpswimmer]] ([[User talk:Hpswimmer|talk]]) 21:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::::I disagree, [[User:Hpswimmer|Hpswimmer]]. Yes, it is a fact about the music video. But if we include this fact, where does it end? One might argue for referencing the company which supplied the costumes. Referencing who oversaw the lighting for the video. Referencing how long the editing process took. Referencing when Britney Spears went for tea breaks. I am of course, taking your argument to an absurd and illogical conclusion, but I feel that's your position on the matter - absurd and illogical. Including that "The music video was originally planned to begin shooting on February 10, 2009, but instead began filming on February 7, 2009" adds nothing of value to the article. Try reading the section without this fact. It reads just as well, and a sentence shorter. This is what we must strive for.--[[Special:Contributions/86.41.148.117|86.41.148.117]] ([[User talk:86.41.148.117|talk]]) 00:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::You just removed the content without consensus, so I have reverted you. Familiarize yourself with [[WP:CONSENSUS]]. Where does the fact adding end? There is no limit, so long as you can source it. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 00:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:Would it be better if we reworded the sentence to take the emphasis off the fact that the shoot date was changed? A suggestion would be "The music video, originally expected to begin shotting on February 10, 2009, began filming on February 7, 2009." This allows the reader to see the most important information more clearly, but still includes the fact that the date was changed...[[User:Hpswimmer|Hpswimmer]] ([[User talk:Hpswimmer|talk]]) 01:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::Sounds good. <font color="blue">[[User:Legolas2186|--''Legolas'']]</font> [[User talk:Legolas2186|<sup>(<font color="red">talk</font><font color="green">2</font><font color="orange">me</font>)</sup>]] 11:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC) |
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Even if you don't agree that this the mention of the original date for starting filming is bloat, it's certainly RECENTISM - "Recentism is the practice of some Wikipedians to edit articles without regard to long-term historical perspective, or to create new articles which inflate the importance and effect of a topic that has received recent media attention. " WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT!?--[[Special:Contributions/86.41.146.111|86.41.146.111]] ([[User talk:86.41.146.111|talk]]) 22:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::No, that would be relevant to a biography of a 70 year old actor and dedicating 3 paragraphs to something that happened to him last week. Here, we are dealing with a very specific topic, this song. The song has only been out a few weeks. It's all "recent". Recentism is generally only relevant to articles that span a long period of time. A single generally only has a short time frame. Once the song has been produced, released and charted that is it. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 23:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::: Well done, give an incredibly specific example of recentism that is completely different to the article in question to obscure the argument. You're the worst type of wikipedia editor.--[[Special:Contributions/86.41.146.111|86.41.146.111]] ([[User talk:86.41.146.111|talk]]) 12:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::You really can't use a recentism argument on an article that has a live span period of 18 months, from production to it's decent off the charts. The content goes from old to new at the same time. Also, no more personal attacks or your blocked. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 14:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::I'm so sorry, Realist2. '''''Your''''' right. '''''Knot.''''' --[[Special:Contributions/86.41.146.111|86.41.146.111]] ([[User talk:86.41.146.111|talk]]) 00:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thanks :) — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 00:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::: I'm only reporting what I heard on a discussion page just so you know: "Fuck you Realist 2; you are made of poo!" That's what I heard. I don't agree with whoever said it but I thought i'd mention it. --[[User:Muddychild|Muddychild]] ([[User talk:Muddychild|talk]]) 22:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC) |
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How come when I edit something that I deem not to be of encyclopedic value, Realist2 reverts, calls it going against consensus, stuff like this: |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=If_U_Seek_Amy&diff=286868063&oldid=286864520 removing bloat, imho] - BUT when Realist2 judges something not to be of encyclopedic value, he/she doesn't have to find any consensus, and just does something like THIS:[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=If_U_Seek_Amy&diff=286696831&oldid=286694930 hypocrisy]--[[Special:Contributions/86.41.143.219|86.41.143.219]] ([[User talk:86.41.143.219|talk]]) 16:27, 29 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:No, I removed that information per [[WP:CHARTS]]. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 18:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::You removed a screenshot due to [[WP:CHARTS]]? It doesn't have anything about ithere --[[Special:Contributions/83.70.109.76|83.70.109.76]] ([[User talk:83.70.109.76|talk]]) 18:37, 29 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Oh, the image was removed because of copy right reasons. We can only use music videos under a [[WP:FAIR USE|fair use]] rational. That particular image did not aid the reader sufficiently (there are much better stills available) thus we could not use it. If the image was free it wouldn't have been a problem. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 18:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::: If what you're saying now is true fine - but I don't think it is. You said then "that image is not of any encyclopedic value". If you want to equivocate on the point, fine.--[[Special:Contributions/83.70.109.76|83.70.109.76]] ([[User talk:83.70.109.76|talk]]) 19:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC) |
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I'm really glad this situation has been rectified. :) --[[Special:Contributions/213.94.238.160|213.94.238.160]] ([[User talk:213.94.238.160|talk]]) 21:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Censored in Ireland == |
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Can someone add that its been censored in Ireland also (tv and radio) |
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:Only if it receives coverage in third party sources. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 20:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC) |
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How do I find a source that says that? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.42.127.86|86.42.127.86]] ([[User talk:86.42.127.86|talk]]) 20:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Look on the internet and post the link here. If we want find a source it can't go in the article. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 20:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC) |
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Well its been censored on mtv.co.uk so can you at least add that its been censored on uk tv? link http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/britney-spears/news/104469-watch-britney-spears-new-music-video-if-u-seek-amy <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.42.127.86|86.42.127.86]] ([[User talk:86.42.127.86|talk]]) 20:34, 9 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The choice to censor it on one website might not represent the policy thought all the UK or even a large portion of it. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 20:49, 9 April 2009 (UTC) |
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Well can you say that MTV UK has censored the video? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.42.127.86|86.42.127.86]] ([[User talk:86.42.127.86|talk]]) 20:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:We don't discuss individual companies, particularly if it's just the website of a company. Sorry, it lacks [[WP:NOTABILITY|notability]]. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 21:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC) |
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'We don't discuss individual companies'. Censorship like this is always by certain companies. It is hardly going to be Gordon Brown deciding to censor it, is it? [[User:Sweetie candykim|Sweetie candykim]] ([[User talk:Sweetie candykim|talk]]) 23:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC) |
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== UK censoring == |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/playlist/ |
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Song is now simply called "Amy" on UK radio. |
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And they completely cut out the "All of the boys and all of the girls are begging to if you seek Amy" line. Other UK radio stations are beginning to play this edit in the UK now too so I'll keep an eye out for an article we can use to source it. [[User:Slowpoke|<font color="black"><b>S</b>low</font><font color="grey">poke</font>]] [[User talk:Slowpoke|<font color="black"><small>(talk)</small></font>]] 15:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haUEhXNAYfA |
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i know you cant use it as source but thought you couldb all listen ([[Special:Contributions/90.194.164.176|90.194.164.176]] ([[User talk:90.194.164.176|talk]]) 18:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)) |
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::Thanks and yes, that is the edit that's being used on UK radio. It's just as shame that no articles have been published regarding it. [[User:Slowpoke|<font color="black"><b>S</b>low</font><font color="grey">poke</font>]] [[User talk:Slowpoke|<font color="black"><small>(talk)</small></font>]] 20:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC) |
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i dont have a clue wather you can use this as a source? http://britneyspearsblackout.com/?p=10456 ([[Special:Contributions/90.194.164.176|90.194.164.176]] ([[User talk:90.194.164.176|talk]]) 22:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)) |
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:No source, but thanks for trying. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 01:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::This change I made [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=If_U_Seek_Amy&diff=286925679&oldid=286924568] is properly and appropriately sourced, and the sources are reliable (wire networks and major newspaper). I also clarified the first quote about the 5 and 7 year olds, as while the Rolling Stone did report it, the attribution should go to the original source (which is linked to from Rolling Stone). I'll keep looking around for more sources. '''--[[User:MPD01605|<font style="color: #FF0000">M</font><font style="color: #000099">PD</font>]]<sup> [[User talk:MPD01605|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/MPD01605|C]]</sup>''' 21:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::Also, I renamed the section to more appropriately reflect the contents. '''--[[User:MPD01605|<font style="color: #FF0000">M</font><font style="color: #000099">PD</font>]]<sup> [[User talk:MPD01605|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/MPD01605|C]]</sup>''' 21:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC) |
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==video info== |
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Can anyone tell me why having the date filming was supposed to begin would be useful to anyone? Why it would be of interest to anyone? Instead of |
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*The music video was initially planned to begin shooting on February 10, 2009, but instead began filming on February 7, 2009. |
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it should be |
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*The music video began filming on February 7, 2009. |
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--[[Special:Contributions/159.134.99.123|159.134.99.123]] ([[User talk:159.134.99.123|talk]]) 17:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:Well from what I've seen, the source ''itself'' says the initial shooting date was to be the 10th, but was changed to the 7th. However, I do agree that there's nothing wrong with simply adding "'''The music video began filming on February 7, 2009'''". Stating the day it was ''supposed'' to be shot, versus the day it ''was'' shot, isn't relevant in this case, considering the fact that it's only a 3 day time period to begin with. If it were a 3 ''month'' time period, it would be a different story and would indeed be notable, but the only way "'''The music video was initially planned to begin shooting on February 10, 2009, but instead began filming on February 7, 2009'''" is relevant at all is because it's actually stated in the source itself, however I find there's nothing wrong with a bit of re-wording (or, rather, "de-wording") in this particular case, so long as the main point (the video being shot on the 7th) is made clear. [[User:Percxyz|Percxyz]] ([[User talk:Percxyz|talk]]) 19:11, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Initial music video shooting date... == |
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<small>Note: this section is mainly directed toward Realist<span><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span> (in a civil way, of course), however I want to keep this discussion on this talk page, as it does correlate with both the <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:If_U_Seek_Amy#Bloat ''''''Bloat'''''']</span> and <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:If_U_Seek_Amy#video_info ''''''video info'''''']</span> sections of this page. More importantly, however, other editors are strongly encouraged to bring their unbiased thoughts and opinions to this matter.</small> |
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Now I'm just going to skip to the point - regarding your reversion of my edit and your edit summary, Realist<span><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>. As far as the debate not being over by a ‘long mile’ is concerned, I find that to be highly inaccurate, as the debate ended approximately two weeks ago on April 29. And since there's no set amount of time an issue has to be debated, considering the fact that this is no longer being discussed, one would assume that the debate is over. The debate is this: should the beginning sentence of the Music Video section read - |
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''The music video was initially planned to begin shooting on February 10, 2009, but instead began filming on February 7, 2009.'' |
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'''Or'''... |
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''Filming for the video began on February 7, 2009, and was directed by Jake Nava, who previously worked with Spears for her 2004 music video "My Prerogative".'' |
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Since the end of April, there have been no other discussions regarding this matter, therefore it's impossible that a debate is still going on about this, as there's no such thing as a "silent" debate. The matter was brought up again one week later on May 5th - which is the day it came to my attention - which is when I decided to change the section (as I have every right, as a fellow Wikipedian, to do so, as information in articles is not set in stone, and therefore other editors will come along and change material as long as it's in a way that improves the article), which is what myself and (originally) [[Special:Contributions/86.41.134.221|86.41.134.221]] did. I fully explained myself on the talk page as to why stating the original shoot date here was unnecessary because a 3 day time period isn't notable, unlike 3 weeks or 3 months, and I changed the sentence in that section. Nobody disagreed with it, therefore one would assume consensus was already reached. The edit I made to the Music Video section in this article is in no way damaging or noncontributing to the article, and in no way was it so controversial that it even remotely requires consensus. One does not initially need to attain consensus when editing an article; consensus is only needed when other editors disagree with another person's edit; that editor being you, Realist<span><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>. However, I find that you yourself did not provide a clear and specific reason as to why both my edit and 86.41.134.221’s edit was reverted, except for "consensus being needed". You didn't explain ''why'' you felt consensus was needed for this situation, nor did you explain why you thought mine or his edit deems unnecessary to the article; however we both fully and thoroughly explained why stating the initial shoot date for the music video was not necessary. Seeing as how you're the only editor here who has an issue with this, I believe the burden is on you to provide why you think this edit DOES deem unnecessary. If an editor has a problem with a piece of material on Wikipedia, is it not up to that editor to state his case as to why he has a problem with it? "''Consensus is needed''" alone is not a valid reason for reverting somebody's edit; you need to go further than that and clearly explain why their edit was reverted, and/or why you feel consensus is needed. You simply didn't do that, not with 86.41.134.221, and not with myself, and I'm sorry but it's only proper you state your case with this. |
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Bottom line, when it comes down to the matter of reaching consensus here, as far as I’m concerned, I am the consensus. First of all, this isn’t an issue that requires the attention and consensus of a lot of editors - nor will it get that kind of attention, as the issue is not only minor to begin with, but there are only two editors here who have continuously debated about this - yourself, Realist<span><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>, and 86.41.134.221. Clearly an unbiased third opinion was needed here in determining how the section should read. '''I''' was that third opinion. After reading everything on the talk page regarding this matter, I came to the conclusion that it should read like <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=If_U_Seek_Amy&oldid=289743612#Music_video this]</span>, instead of <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_U_Seek_Amy#Music_video this]</span>. For 5 days, there wasn't a single rejection of this edit. You have now reverted TWO editors' edits regarding this, with no valid reasoning except for 'consensus not being reached'. However, from what I've seen within the past week, consensus was reached and the issue was dropped several days ago. Considering the fact that, since the time I edited the section, you've edited the article 6 times within a 4 day time period 'without' reverting my edit, I don't know why you're just now (after 5 days) reverting this. There are no 'set' amount of editors that need to be included in reaching consensus, nor a set amount of time that needs to go by before consensus is reached. Consensus is based on 'participating' editors partaking in discussion about certain aspects of an article, and coming to a conclusion with ''valid'' arguments and reasons. Consensus discussions are used to convince others of one's reasoning behind an edit - with ''actual'' reasons. And in this case, 86.41.134.221's argument convinced me that citing the original shoot date for the video was not needed. He gave a valid reason as to why this bit of information is not needed, and another editor (myself) agreed with this argument, and I additionally stated ''why'' I agreed with it. Now I’m not sure what ‘more’ consensus you need, but based on the fact that there are no active arguments regarding this, no specifically explained rejections of this edit, along with the fact that not one, but two editors have already provided clear, thorough and reasonable explanations as to why stating the initial shoot date of the music video in this article is irrelevant and non-notable to the article, consensus has already been reached. |
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I understand completely that consensus is not in numbers, and this is in no way a "two against one" situation. I'm not saying that because two editors agree with this, that it should be. I'm saying that two editors have provided clear of examples of ''why'' it should be, with no real counterarguments regarding otherwise. I think at this point, Realist<span><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>, since you're the only one who has a problem with this edit, it's up to you to explain why and attain consensus for reverting it back to the way it was. [[User:Percxyz|Percxyz]] <small>([[User talk:Percxyz|Call me Percy, it's easier]])</small> 15:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== May 2009 == |
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Circus has rose up the swiss chart take a look |
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Swiss Singles Top 100: [http://acharts.us/song/40796] |
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== If U Seek Amy is #1 in Brazil == |
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http://top40-charts.com/chart.php?cid=8 |
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^ There is the link. It is #1 on the Brazillian Singles Chart. This was in the article previously, but for some reason was removed; now it should be added again. |
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*See [[WP:CHARTS]], the link is [[WP:RS|unreliable]]. — [[Wikipedia:Peer review/Scream/Childhood/archive1|Please comment]] [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 17:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC) |
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It was also put on britney.com <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.5.232.178|24.5.232.178]] ([[User talk:24.5.232.178|talk]]) 06:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Swearing == |
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It's very hard to hear by just normally listening to the song but after the chorus, at the same time that she says "love me, hate me" there is a guy in the background that says f**k me, f**k me. I used an application audacity to play only that part over, then I could hear it clearly, should that be added in the article? [[User:Pikiwyn|Pikiwyn]] ([[User talk:Pikiwyn|talk]]) 19:16, 19 July 2009 (UTC) |
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==Musical Structure== |
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According to this: http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=mn0074460 her vocal range spans from G3-C5, I think this could be added to the article. [[User:Skinwalker03|Skinwalker03]] ([[User talk:Skinwalker03|talk]]) 01:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC) |
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Well, I corrected all the mistakes and since i'm trying to nominate the article again for GA, i feel like this issue should be discussed. In my opinion, the genre should be pop as various sources said that it is just influenced by other pop genres like electropop and synthpop. [[User:Xwomanizerx|Xwomanizerx]] ([[User talk:Xwomanizerx|talk]]) 13:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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I agree as well that the genre should be Pop. I think it sounds more Pop than it does Electro. Songs like Womanizer, Shattered Glass and Mannequin have more of an electro pop vibe, and this song doesn't really fit that type of sound. [[User:Percxyz|Percxyz]] <small>([[User talk:Percxyz|Call me Percy, ]]</small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Percxyz|it's easier)]]</small> 18:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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Double Entendre?
[edit]A double entendre (French pronunciation: [dublɑ̃tɑ̃dʁə]) or adianoeta[1] is a figure of speech in which a spoken phrase is devised to be understood in either of two ways. Often the first (more obvious) meaning is straightforward, while the second meaning is less so: often risqué, inappropriate, or ironic.
Okay, I get the F-U-C-K me risque meaning, but what is the straightforward meaning? I'm having a hell of a time parsing "All the girls and all the boys are begging to if you seek Amy" in a non-dirty manner. 66.27.169.123 (talk) 08:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't really think there is a straightforward meaning. I think it was just intended to be a sneaky way of saying "fuck me" weather it makes sense another way or not. There is even a fake news report at the beginning and the end of the video of the song in which the reporter says "If...you...seek...Amy. Doesn't make any sense does it?" Rouse52794 (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Genre
[edit]Well, I corrected all the mistakes and since i'm trying to nominate the article again for GA, i feel like this issue should be discussed. In my opinion, the genre should be pop as various sources said that it is just influenced by other pop genres like electropop and synthpop. Xwomanizerx (talk) 13:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree as well that the genre should be Pop. I think it sounds more Pop than it does Electro. Songs like Womanizer, Shattered Glass and Mannequin have more of an electro pop vibe, and this song doesn't really fit that type of sound. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 18:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
The reason I think electropop should be in the genre is because electro style of music was obviously incorporated into the song. It's not about more pop or more elctro. It's pop and electro, hence the genre electropop. I don't think Shattered Glass sounds very electropop at all, and If U Seek Amy sounds much elctropop than Mannequin does IMO. I think the genre of this song would be fine with Pop, electropop. There is even a category in the article titled Electropop songs. Oh, can someone let me know why it's so vital to leave electropop out of the genre? Britney's song Break the Ice is 2% electropop at the most, but electropop is still listed in the genre. of that song. If U Seek Amy is much more electropop than Break the Ice, but electropop shouldn't be listed in it's genre? Surelyhuman (talk) 21:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- Just my two cents, but I think the genre should be dance-pop. Chase wc91 21:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- So, should i list the article as Pop, Electropop?. Xwomanizerx (talk) 20:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- There's not enough electropop in the song to have it listed as a genre IMO. I'd just put it as dance-pop since it incorporates elements of pop and dance music. But whatever consensus turns out to be, I'm all for. Chase wc91 01:37, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, just checked the article and I guess "pop, electropop" is fine. As long as the genre warring stops, everything should be okay. Try for GA again in a few weeks. Chase wc91 01:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Pink hammer
[edit]Interesting that she was holding a pink hammer during the live performance. That seems to be a reference to the Sonic the Hedgehog video game series, where a pink character called Amy has a giant cartoon hammer as her regular weapon. 86.131.98.77 (talk) 13:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, i noted the same and added that a while ago, but there are no references for it from a third party. Xwomanizerx (talk) 14:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Is the song a shoot-back at Amy Lee of Evanescence?
[edit]Several years back, gothic rock band Evanescence wrote a song called "Everybody's Fool" as an insult to Britney Spears and other female dance-pop artists. Since the lead singer is named Amy Lee, could this song be a shoot-back at her?
- Of course not, it's f-u-c-k me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.155.191.43 (talk) 22:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Well, true, but I'm talking about the title itself, and what the "Amy" in the title refers to. Amy Lee was a notable hater of Britney Spears, stating that her younger sister, Carrie Lee, used to dress up like Spears, and Lee hated it, so she wrote the song "Everybody's Fool" about her. That's why I was thinking that this song may be a response to Evanescence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.156.8.189 (talk) 19:16, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]just because someone writing for a newspaper claims that if u seek amy is a pun for fuck, hardly means we should be into such a ludicrous claim. a little critical thinking here would at a minimum suggest that it's a rather failed example of paronomasia, and we should reject either the fevered and hopeful ruminations of the imaginative, or the rather poor play on words of the author. in either case, it fails if the author truly meant it thus. -- chris
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