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== Requested move 9 November 2018 ==
== Requested move 9 November 2018 ==


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The result of the move request was: '''moved''' with genre disambiguator <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> '''<span style="font-family: Arial">[[User:StraussInTheHouse|<span style="color: red">SITH</span>]] [[User talk:StraussInTheHouse|<span style="color: blue">(talk)</span>]]</span>''' 12:33, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
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* [[:Ritual (UK band)]] → {{no redirect|Ritual (2010s band)}}
* [[:Ritual (UK band)]] → {{no redirect|Ritual (2010s band)}}
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– Disambiguation needed as they're both UK bands and I don't see a primary topic. <u style="font:1.1em/1em Arial Black">[[User:Flooded with them hundreds|<u style="color:#7f2ed1">Flooded </u>]]<u style="color:#bfa6d8"><small>with them </small></u>[[User_talk:Flooded with them hundreds|<u style="color:#7f2ed1">'''hundreds'''</u>]]</u> 06:21, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
– Disambiguation needed as they're both UK bands and I don't see a primary topic. <u style="font:1.1em/1em Arial Black">[[User:Flooded with them hundreds|<u style="color:#7f2ed1">Flooded </u>]]<u style="color:#bfa6d8"><small>with them </small></u>[[User_talk:Flooded with them hundreds|<u style="color:#7f2ed1">'''hundreds'''</u>]]</u> 06:21, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Per [[WP:PRECISE]] and [[WP:PDAB]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Red">talk</span>]]) 10:03, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Per [[WP:PRECISE]] and [[WP:PDAB]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Red">talk</span>]]) 10:03, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Is the decade dismabig the standard, or is the genre of the band used? '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Fire Walk with Me]]</sup> 13:07, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Is the decade dismabig the standard, or is the genre of the band used? '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Lugnuts|Fire Walk with Me]]</sup> 13:07, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support moving''', but Lugnuts is correct that their different musical genres should be preferenced over their years of activity — so the disambiguators should be more like "post-punk band" and "electronic band", or something along those lines. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 19:48, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support moving''', but Lugnuts is correct that their different musical genres should be preferenced over their years of activity — so the disambiguators should be more like "post-punk band" and "electronic band", or something along those lines. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 19:48, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
*People are likely to look for a band using the "old band/new band" thinking so the decades disambiguator may be more helpful than the genres because they are inconsistent as bands and musicians nowadays fuse multiple genres. <u style="font:1.1em/1em Arial Black">[[User:Flooded with them hundreds|<u style="color:#7f2ed1">Flooded </u>]]<u style="color:#bfa6d8"><small>with them </small></u>[[User_talk:Flooded with them hundreds|<u style="color:#7f2ed1">'''hundreds'''</u>]]</u> 08:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
*People are likely to look for a band using the "old band/new band" thinking so the decades disambiguator may be more helpful than the genres because they are inconsistent as bands and musicians nowadays fuse multiple genres. <u style="font:1.1em/1em Arial Black">[[User:Flooded with them hundreds|<u style="color:#7f2ed1">Flooded </u>]]<u style="color:#bfa6d8"><small>with them </small></u>[[User_talk:Flooded with them hundreds|<u style="color:#7f2ed1">'''hundreds'''</u>]]</u> 08:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
::Except that people may not necessarily ''know'' whether the band they're looking for is the "old band" or the "new band". Given that these days the "discovery" of a band the reader didn't already know about is likely to come from hearing them on YouTube or Spotify or Pandora or Slacker, people who weren't already familiar with the band, and are looking for a Wikipedia article to learn more about this "new to them" band they just discovered on a streaming platform, are much likelier to know what ''style'' of music they just heard than they are ''when'' the music was made. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 20:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
::Except that people may not necessarily ''know'' whether the band they're looking for is the "old band" or the "new band". Given that these days the "discovery" of a band the reader didn't already know about is likely to come from hearing them on YouTube or Spotify or Pandora or Slacker, people who weren't already familiar with the band, and are looking for a Wikipedia article to learn more about this "new to them" band they just discovered on a streaming platform, are much likelier to know what ''style'' of music they just heard than they are ''when'' the music was made. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 20:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support moving but oppose decade disambiguation''' per Bearcat and Lugnuts. The three musical artists I discovered most recently were active in the 1980s ([[Martika]]), the 2010s ([[The Dead South]]) and the 1960s-1980s ([[Jeanette (singer)]]). Until I looked them up on Wikipedia I didn't know this. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 17:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support moving but oppose decade disambiguation''' I find that it is clearer if the band is identified by genre since it looks like they only existed in the 2010s with that identifier. [[User:EllenZoe|EllenZoe]] ([[User talk:EllenZoe|talk]]) 15:49, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 22:46, 16 February 2024

Requested move 9 November 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved with genre disambiguator (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 12:33, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]



– Disambiguation needed as they're both UK bands and I don't see a primary topic. Flooded with them hundreds 06:21, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Except that people may not necessarily know whether the band they're looking for is the "old band" or the "new band". Given that these days the "discovery" of a band the reader didn't already know about is likely to come from hearing them on YouTube or Spotify or Pandora or Slacker, people who weren't already familiar with the band, and are looking for a Wikipedia article to learn more about this "new to them" band they just discovered on a streaming platform, are much likelier to know what style of music they just heard than they are when the music was made. Bearcat (talk) 20:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.