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== the name 'Scotland' has been used in English for two distinct kingdoms ==

A problem here is the English language. Historically the name 'Scotland' has been used in English for two distinct kingdoms. Firstly for the ancient gaelic kingdom of Alba and secondly for the later kingdom comprising the whole of modern Scotland. Confusing one with the other is a bit like conflating the kingdom of England with the kingdom of Wessex. The wikipage on Alba says it persisted until 1286 - so that arguably the 'kingdom of Scotland' in modern usage didn't exist until 1287. Arguably too there were no 'kings of the Scots' (except in the English language) until then - they had previously all been Rìgh na h-Alba or King of the Albanach. Translating the name of today's Scotland into the gaelic name Alba is equally confusingly modern usage. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/78.150.38.110|78.150.38.110]] ([[User talk:78.150.38.110#top|talk]]) 15:10, 10 December 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Supposed titled ==

[[Idi Amin Dada]] has been claimed the title. See also the title of the [[oscars]] awarded movie [[The Last King of Scotland (film)|The Last King of Scotland]]. Should this be mentioned in some way? --[[Special:Contributions/82.52.25.126|82.52.25.126]] ([[User talk:82.52.25.126|talk]]) 13:21, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

:It's mentioned [[List_of_Scottish_monarchs#Later_claimants|here]]. [[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] ([[User talk:Mutt Lunker|talk]]) 14:45, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

== Date range incorrect for Malcolm III within SVG file ==

The date range for the reign of Malcolm III is incorrect within the family tree diagram. It should be 1058 to 1093. [[User:Jame5 07961|Jame5 07961]] ([[User talk:Jame5 07961|talk]]) 19:07, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

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== Wrong reference ==

Mary married William III, prince of orange and not William II [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:CB3D:6B00:9161:269A:E29F:7070|2A02:C7C:CB3D:6B00:9161:269A:E29F:7070]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:CB3D:6B00:9161:269A:E29F:7070|talk]]) 21:41, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

== Error in family tree ==

According to their respective articles, Donald III didn't have any sons, and Malcolm III's sons were David I, Edgar and Alexander I. But this tree wrongly shows all three as Donald's sons. [[User:Richard75|Richard75]] ([[User talk:Richard75|talk]]) 18:04, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
* You're right. I've removed/hidden the family tree image until its creator, [[User:Go-Chlodio]], can fix it. —[[User talk:GoldRingChip|GoldRingChip]] 21:06, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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the name 'Scotland' has been used in English for two distinct kingdoms

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A problem here is the English language. Historically the name 'Scotland' has been used in English for two distinct kingdoms. Firstly for the ancient gaelic kingdom of Alba and secondly for the later kingdom comprising the whole of modern Scotland. Confusing one with the other is a bit like conflating the kingdom of England with the kingdom of Wessex. The wikipage on Alba says it persisted until 1286 - so that arguably the 'kingdom of Scotland' in modern usage didn't exist until 1287. Arguably too there were no 'kings of the Scots' (except in the English language) until then - they had previously all been Rìgh na h-Alba or King of the Albanach. Translating the name of today's Scotland into the gaelic name Alba is equally confusingly modern usage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.38.110 (talk) 15:10, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Supposed titled

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Idi Amin Dada has been claimed the title. See also the title of the oscars awarded movie The Last King of Scotland. Should this be mentioned in some way? --82.52.25.126 (talk) 13:21, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's mentioned here. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:45, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Date range incorrect for Malcolm III within SVG file

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The date range for the reign of Malcolm III is incorrect within the family tree diagram. It should be 1058 to 1093. Jame5 07961 (talk) 19:07, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletion

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The following Wikimedia Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletion:

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 17:43, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong reference

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Mary married William III, prince of orange and not William II 2A02:C7C:CB3D:6B00:9161:269A:E29F:7070 (talk) 21:41, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Error in family tree

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According to their respective articles, Donald III didn't have any sons, and Malcolm III's sons were David I, Edgar and Alexander I. But this tree wrongly shows all three as Donald's sons. Richard75 (talk) 18:04, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]