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The result was '''keep'''__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:darkgreen">[[User:I'm tla|<span style="color:white">'''TLA'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:I'm tla|(talk)]] 04:29, 18 February 2024 (UTC) |
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* <s>Merge as appropriate with [[Mayor of Perth Amboy, New Jersey]]</s>: There appears to be only [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/nj-latina-her-citys-first-woman-mayor-n451586 one article] with [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] of Diaz. Appropriate details should be merged into the article on the Mayor of Perth Amboy. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 22:25, 11 February 2024 (UTC) <!--VCB Voorts--> |
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** Change to '''keep''': the NBC and NY Times articles are enough to meet GNG along with the other existing sourcing. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 18:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC) |
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* <s>'''Comment'''</s> while I review the sourcing of the subject (which does appear on first glance to be extensive). The standard for a stand-alone article about a local official (including a mayor), is whether there is enough sourcing that describe an official's impact in the community, or national or international coverage where the subject is featured. Size of a jurisdiction's population should generally not be used as a metric. The NBC article appears to be one good source to independently meet GNG, and the prose in the article suggests that the editors have done a good job putting verifiable context to her mayorship and discussing her impact. --[[User:Enos733|Enos733]] ([[User talk:Enos733|talk]]) 05:08, 12 February 2024 (UTC) Changed to keep. |
* <s>'''Comment'''</s> while I review the sourcing of the subject (which does appear on first glance to be extensive). The standard for a stand-alone article about a local official (including a mayor), is whether there is enough sourcing that describe an official's impact in the community, or national or international coverage where the subject is featured. Size of a jurisdiction's population should generally not be used as a metric. The NBC article appears to be one good source to independently meet GNG, and the prose in the article suggests that the editors have done a good job putting verifiable context to her mayorship and discussing her impact. --[[User:Enos733|Enos733]] ([[User talk:Enos733|talk]]) 05:08, 12 February 2024 (UTC) Changed to keep. |
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::'''Keep''' in addition to the NBC source provided by voorts, a second GNG source is a story box about her in "Women and Politics: A Quest for Political Equality in an Age of Economic Inequality" by [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Women_and_Politics/sGxQDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1 Barbara Burrell] (2017). Beginning on page 120 of the textbook, Burrell features Diaz. Between those two sources and the existing sources, this is a GNG pass. --[[User:Enos733|Enos733]] ([[User talk:Enos733|talk]]) 05:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC) |
::'''Keep''' in addition to the NBC source provided by voorts, a second GNG source is a story box about her in "Women and Politics: A Quest for Political Equality in an Age of Economic Inequality" by [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Women_and_Politics/sGxQDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1 Barbara Burrell] (2017). Beginning on page 120 of the textbook, Burrell features Diaz. Between those two sources and the existing sources, this is a GNG pass. --[[User:Enos733|Enos733]] ([[User talk:Enos733|talk]]) 05:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Two more GNG articles (one found, one alluded to). Coverage in the NY Times after her initial election: "Newcomer’s Rise Signals a Shift in Power New York Times. Jul 6, 2008 (one representative quote "political analysts say victories like those by Ms. Diaz represent a significant generational shift in state politics"). Also, it is [https://www.latinojustice.org/en/honorable-wilda-diaz mentioned] that she was "featured in Real Simple Magazine as, “The Accidental Politician” among only four female mayors nation-wide." I have not found the article, but if it does say what it is alleged to say, it should also be an independent, significant source. --[[User:Enos733|Enos733]] ([[User talk:Enos733|talk]]) 06:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC) |
:::Two more GNG articles (one found, one alluded to). Coverage in the NY Times after her initial election: "Newcomer’s Rise Signals a Shift in Power New York Times. Jul 6, 2008 (one representative quote "political analysts say victories like those by Ms. Diaz represent a significant generational shift in state politics"). Also, it is [https://www.latinojustice.org/en/honorable-wilda-diaz mentioned] that she was "featured in Real Simple Magazine as, “The Accidental Politician” among only four female mayors nation-wide." I have not found the article, but if it does say what it is alleged to say, it should also be an independent, significant source. --[[User:Enos733|Enos733]] ([[User talk:Enos733|talk]]) 06:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:::As noted in the book, the story box is an excerpt from the NBC piece, not a separate source. That said, I think the NY Times article in addition to the NBC piece meets GNG, so I will be changing my !vote. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 18:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep'''. The sources provided satisfy GNG, as being significant and sustained regarding her mayoralty. Size of locale not relevant and like OTHER STUFF (about others mayors) exists or does not exist is not a nomination criteria. [[List of first women mayors|first women mayor]] of city, first female Latina mayor of state adds cachet. [[User:Djflem|Djflem]] ([[User talk:Djflem|talk]]) 10:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' The claim of notability as the state's first Latina mayor, backed by [https://www.nj.com/news/2008/07/mayor_to_take_oath_in_perth_am_1.html this reliable and verifiable source] in the state's largest newspaper, combined with the other non-routine sources about her described above and in the article demonstrate that the notability standard has been met. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 15:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Non-notable mayor. This article cites a lot of sources, but they're all just routine coverage of her mayoral administration by local outlets in New Jersey. Several of the articles aren't even news coverage, they're just pages on government websites. 55,000 is not a big enough population to inherently justify giving the mayor a Wikipedia page, and it seems like no other mayors of this town have Wikipedia pages except the ones who went on to hold higher office. I don't see anything she's done that makes her notable enough for a Wikipedia page. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 03:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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Merge as appropriate with Mayor of Perth Amboy, New Jersey: There appears to be only one article with significant coverage of Diaz. Appropriate details should be merged into the article on the Mayor of Perth Amboy. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:25, 11 February 2024 (UTC)- Change to keep: the NBC and NY Times articles are enough to meet GNG along with the other existing sourcing. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Commentwhile I review the sourcing of the subject (which does appear on first glance to be extensive). The standard for a stand-alone article about a local official (including a mayor), is whether there is enough sourcing that describe an official's impact in the community, or national or international coverage where the subject is featured. Size of a jurisdiction's population should generally not be used as a metric. The NBC article appears to be one good source to independently meet GNG, and the prose in the article suggests that the editors have done a good job putting verifiable context to her mayorship and discussing her impact. --Enos733 (talk) 05:08, 12 February 2024 (UTC) Changed to keep.
- Keep in addition to the NBC source provided by voorts, a second GNG source is a story box about her in "Women and Politics: A Quest for Political Equality in an Age of Economic Inequality" by Barbara Burrell (2017). Beginning on page 120 of the textbook, Burrell features Diaz. Between those two sources and the existing sources, this is a GNG pass. --Enos733 (talk) 05:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Two more GNG articles (one found, one alluded to). Coverage in the NY Times after her initial election: "Newcomer’s Rise Signals a Shift in Power New York Times. Jul 6, 2008 (one representative quote "political analysts say victories like those by Ms. Diaz represent a significant generational shift in state politics"). Also, it is mentioned that she was "featured in Real Simple Magazine as, “The Accidental Politician” among only four female mayors nation-wide." I have not found the article, but if it does say what it is alleged to say, it should also be an independent, significant source. --Enos733 (talk) 06:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- As noted in the book, the story box is an excerpt from the NBC piece, not a separate source. That said, I think the NY Times article in addition to the NBC piece meets GNG, so I will be changing my !vote. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep in addition to the NBC source provided by voorts, a second GNG source is a story box about her in "Women and Politics: A Quest for Political Equality in an Age of Economic Inequality" by Barbara Burrell (2017). Beginning on page 120 of the textbook, Burrell features Diaz. Between those two sources and the existing sources, this is a GNG pass. --Enos733 (talk) 05:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The sources provided satisfy GNG, as being significant and sustained regarding her mayoralty. Size of locale not relevant and like OTHER STUFF (about others mayors) exists or does not exist is not a nomination criteria. first women mayor of city, first female Latina mayor of state adds cachet. Djflem (talk) 10:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The claim of notability as the state's first Latina mayor, backed by this reliable and verifiable source in the state's largest newspaper, combined with the other non-routine sources about her described above and in the article demonstrate that the notability standard has been met. Alansohn (talk) 15:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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