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The last two paragraphs of this article have a bias against this political party, most strikingly in the last two sentances, which simply make a scathing comment. Some of the diction ("tricks," "cheating") is also of concern. The grammar is also rather poor, and is in need of some retouching. I encourage anyone with knowledge of this party to sort it out into a NPOV. --[[User:Palpatine|Palpatine]] 06:48, 12 May 2006 (UTC) |
The last two paragraphs of this article have a bias against this political party, most strikingly in the last two sentances, which simply make a scathing comment. Some of the diction ("tricks," "cheating") is also of concern. The grammar is also rather poor, and is in need of some retouching. I encourage anyone with knowledge of this party to sort it out into a NPOV. --[[User:Palpatine|Palpatine]] 06:48, 12 May 2006 (UTC) |
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This article is still quite weak and is still biased. Lots of sources needed. --[[User:Reinkarnation|The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.]] ([[User talk:Reinkarnation|talk]]) 20:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::On a more serious note, [http://www.chriskaplonski.com/downloads/bullets.pdf this] article might be relevant as well. C.R. Bawden actually discusses some purges of the party ranks in the early 1930s (that time, members were only expelled, not killed), which IMHO might be relevant, too. [[User:Yaan|Yaan]] ([[User talk:Yaan|talk]]) 18:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC) |
:::On a more serious note, [http://www.chriskaplonski.com/downloads/bullets.pdf this] article might be relevant as well. C.R. Bawden actually discusses some purges of the party ranks in the early 1930s (that time, members were only expelled, not killed), which IMHO might be relevant, too. [[User:Yaan|Yaan]] ([[User talk:Yaan|talk]]) 18:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== New name == |
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How come there is no section about the changing of the name and the director? |
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[[Special:Contributions/202.170.68.19|202.170.68.19]] ([[User talk:202.170.68.19|talk]]) 05:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC) |
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The article has been recently modified, and I'm concerned about this rewrite. An example of my concerns is the sentence "In 2010 [[Nambaryn Enkhbayar]] established a political party and named it [[Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party (2010-)|Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party]] after the existing party received approval for the old name of Mongolian People's Party from the Supreme Court of Mongolia on 24 June 2011" which doesn't make any sense, because it implies events of 2010 occurred after 2011. While I've modified that sentence, I'm still concerned about the recent changes, which, in my opinion, have introduced a number of problems. I'll attempt to fix these problems, and not just revert the recent changes. [[User:PhilKnight|PhilKnight]] ([[User talk:PhilKnight|talk]]) 10:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC) |
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[edit]The last two paragraphs of this article have a bias against this political party, most strikingly in the last two sentances, which simply make a scathing comment. Some of the diction ("tricks," "cheating") is also of concern. The grammar is also rather poor, and is in need of some retouching. I encourage anyone with knowledge of this party to sort it out into a NPOV. --Palpatine 06:48, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
This article is still quite weak and is still biased. Lots of sources needed. --The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. (talk) 20:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
changes
[edit]I did some rewording on the Gundalai case - he has been detained for 25 hours, not jailed from 2000-2004 - , added another high-profile case, and deleted the cases of B.Batbayar and General Baatar. B.Batbayar (Baabar) certainly was not in prison from 2000 to 2004. He may have been detained at one point that I don't know of, though. J. Baatar was convicted to 7 years in 2003, but for spying, not coorruption.
The allegations after the elections in 2004 were a two-seded affair, however with the oppposition probably having the stronger points. The turnout was actually lower than in 1996.
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ideology
[edit]I reverted the changes that made it seem as if the MPRP was actually still pursuing Marxism-Leninism. Feel free to re-add it if you find a reliable post-1990 source (current MPRP party program should do).
Kommunist crime by this party
[edit]Can somebody please translate a new insert in Mongolian version that stating mass stalinist purges conducted by this party. I guess possibly certain propaganda reason this fact has been eliminated from all foreign translations of this party information. The new insert title is "Niigemd Uchiruulsan Gemt Uildluud". Orgio 10-19-2008
there is a big risk that some party supporters might delete this fact from Mongolian version so I am attaching new insert here for your language translation:
Нийгэмд учруулсан гэмт хэргүүд
МАХН нь коммунизмын үзэл суртлыг Монголийн нийгэмд хүчээр тулгахын тулд 1937-1939 оны хооронд бүрэн бус тоогоор 80 000 орчим (тухайн үед Монгол улсын нийт иргэдийн 10%) гэм зэмгүй сэхээтэн, цэргийн зүтгэлтэн, нийгмийн зүтгэлтэн Монгол улсын иргэдийг хэлмэгдүүлэн олонхийг нь цаазаар авч шоронд хийх тамлах гэх мэт ноцтой гэмт үйлдлүүдийг хийсэн юм. Мөн 1921-1940 оны хооронд 30 000 - 50 000 буддын шашиний лам нарыг мөн дээрх байдлаар баривчилж, хороож, хорьж байжээ. 1960-1970-ад онд Сэхээтний төөрөгдөл нэртэй ажиллагаа явуулж Монголийн олон зуун сэхээтнүүдийг нийгмийн чухал албан тушаалуудаас зайлуулж хөдөө нутагт хамгийн хүнд нөхцөлтэй цалин багтай ажилд цөлөн хэлмэгдүүлж байжээ.
some references: http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/0612/mongolia.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.83.170.147 (talk) 16:28, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
- You might want to look at the dedicated article Stalinist repressions in Mongolia instead. --Latebird (talk) 00:26, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- The point is this article is kind of intentionally hiding the past dark events that this organization took in charge and that is making serious confusing understanding for international readers. The are most families in Mongolia suffered by communism crimes initiated with this organization so it is very important at international level what Mongolian organization has clean history or not. Orgio 10-20-2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.83.170.147 (talk) 16:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, it's all a big conspiracy. Sigh. [Removed irrelevant stuff]
- On a more serious note, this article might be relevant as well. C.R. Bawden actually discusses some purges of the party ranks in the early 1930s (that time, members were only expelled, not killed), which IMHO might be relevant, too. Yaan (talk) 18:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
New name
[edit]How come there is no section about the changing of the name and the director?
202.170.68.19 (talk) 05:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Recent changes
[edit]The article has been recently modified, and I'm concerned about this rewrite. An example of my concerns is the sentence "In 2010 Nambaryn Enkhbayar established a political party and named it Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party after the existing party received approval for the old name of Mongolian People's Party from the Supreme Court of Mongolia on 24 June 2011" which doesn't make any sense, because it implies events of 2010 occurred after 2011. While I've modified that sentence, I'm still concerned about the recent changes, which, in my opinion, have introduced a number of problems. I'll attempt to fix these problems, and not just revert the recent changes. PhilKnight (talk) 10:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
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