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==Etymology== |
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The etymology section comes up short insofar as it fails to provide any root word translation of <i>sol</i> itself. <i>Cf.</i> the Online Etymological Dictionary: "... from root *saewel- 'to shine...'" [[User:Orthotox|Orthotox]] ([[User talk:Orthotox|talk]]) 09:35, 19 November 2012 (UTC) |
The etymology section comes up short insofar as it fails to provide any root word translation of <i>sol</i> itself. <i>Cf.</i> the Online Etymological Dictionary: "... from root *saewel- 'to shine...'" [[User:Orthotox|Orthotox]] ([[User talk:Orthotox|talk]]) 09:35, 19 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Proposal to merge with [[Sol Invictus]] == |
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{{archive top|1=Discussion is at [[Talk:Sol_Invictus#Proposal_to_merge_with_Sol_(Roman_mythology)]]. [[User:Ribbet32|Ribbet32]] ([[User talk:Ribbet32|talk]]) 05:47, 27 December 2020 (UTC)}} |
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This seems pretty straightforward to me. Not only are there are four separate references in the lead substantiating the fact that Sol and Sol Invictus are essentially the same entity, much of the article unambiguously refers to the latter. I can't think of any good reason to have two articles at this point. Indeed, the content here could be inserted to [[Sol Invictus]] and take up no more than a single section. [[User:Global Cerebral Ischemia|Global Cerebral Ischemia]] ([[User talk:Global Cerebral Ischemia|talk]]) 01:55, 11 December 2020 (UTC) |
This seems pretty straightforward to me. Not only are there are four separate references in the lead substantiating the fact that Sol and Sol Invictus are essentially the same entity, much of the article unambiguously refers to the latter. I can't think of any good reason to have two articles at this point. Indeed, the content here could be inserted to [[Sol Invictus]] and take up no more than a single section. [[User:Global Cerebral Ischemia|Global Cerebral Ischemia]] ([[User talk:Global Cerebral Ischemia|talk]]) 01:55, 11 December 2020 (UTC) |
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*Why should we delete references to Sol in the [[Roman Republic]]? [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 12:14, 12 December 2020 (UTC) |
*Why should we delete references to Sol in the [[Roman Republic]]? [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 12:14, 12 December 2020 (UTC) |
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*He's set up two discussions, neither using the proper [[WP:RM]] process. Please DON'T comment here, but at [[Talk:Sol_Invictus#Proposal_to_merge_with_Sol_(Roman_mythology)]]. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 16:43, 24 December 2020 (UTC) |
*He's set up two discussions, neither using the proper [[WP:RM]] process. Please DON'T comment here, but at [[Talk:Sol_Invictus#Proposal_to_merge_with_Sol_(Roman_mythology)]]. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 16:43, 24 December 2020 (UTC) |
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== Describing gods as Sabine == |
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Etymology
[edit]The etymology section comes up short insofar as it fails to provide any root word translation of sol itself. Cf. the Online Etymological Dictionary: "... from root *saewel- 'to shine...'" Orthotox (talk) 09:35, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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Obvious Original Research
[edit]Unless there are any objections, I will remove a paragraph that consists almost entirely of WP:OR and WP:POV.
- "The official status of the cult of Sol after Aurelian was significant, but there is no evidence that it was the supreme cult of the state. Hoey exaggerates the importance of an inscription from Salsovia that supposedly indicates an official empire-wide cult-prescription for Sol on December 19.[21] It actually simply states that at the command of the emperor Licinius the commanding officer of the detachment at Salsovia was to burn incense annually for a newly erected statue of Sol on November 18 (Hoey misread the date).[22] This simply means that Licinius accepted the erection of the statue in his honour."
Reference 22 consists of the editor's own interpretation of the inscription (which is different than the interpretation given by the aforementioned Hoey in ref 21). It would be one thing if a source was given for the interpretation, but it's clear that this paragraph is the editor's own original research. Global Cerebral Ischemia (talk) 00:08, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Ideas for expanding the page
[edit]The article could be developed more in terms of how Sol was physically depicted by worshippers, as well as how it played its role in the mythology of Rome as a whole as well as any stories that it may have been included in. Ideally the page could be as detailed and thorough as the page for its greek counterpart in HeliosFinalgiraffe (talk) 05:35, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Proposal to merge with Sol Invictus
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This seems pretty straightforward to me. Not only are there are four separate references in the lead substantiating the fact that Sol and Sol Invictus are essentially the same entity, much of the article unambiguously refers to the latter. I can't think of any good reason to have two articles at this point. Indeed, the content here could be inserted to Sol Invictus and take up no more than a single section. Global Cerebral Ischemia (talk) 01:55, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Why should we delete references to Sol in the Roman Republic? Dimadick (talk) 12:14, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- He's set up two discussions, neither using the proper WP:RM process. Please DON'T comment here, but at Talk:Sol_Invictus#Proposal_to_merge_with_Sol_(Roman_mythology). Johnbod (talk) 16:43, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Describing gods as Sabine
[edit]There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome#Describing gods as Sabine which relates to recent edits here and in other articles. NebY (talk) 18:29, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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