Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jackson Bentley

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The result was redirect‎ to Lawrence of Arabia (film). Proposed alternative redirect target does not exist; this could be retargeted if that is created. RL0919 (talk) 12:18, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Jackson Bentley

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Fails WP:N. I could barely find any outside, reliable sources about the character. The article itself cites no sources JooneBug37 (talk) 02:51, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. JooneBug37 (talk) 21:55, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. JooneBug37 (talk) 21:55, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep It's widely considered one of the greatest films of all time. I wouldn't be surprised if every character in it has enough scholarly analysis to have a standalone article. Just from a quick search: [1] (search for Bentley), [2], [3]. There's also sourced content in Lawrence of Arabia (film) about the other two actors associated with the role that could be included. Jfire (talk) 05:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Merge/rename to Fictional characters in Lawrence of Arabia per Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Harry_Brighton. The sources here are borderline for WP:SIGCOV. But there is enough reliable coverage to write something about how the filmmakers adapted real life people into composite characters. It's a rare niche where there is no real life person to merge these characters to, but there are multiple real life people who inspired these characters, and that is reliable information we should WP:PRESERVE. A list of characters is normal for fiction like this. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Keep - The article does not need work but as Jfire said above there are several sources indicating notability. Otherwise, I would support renaming the page to Fictional characters in Lawrence of Arabia as above. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 13:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More discussion on the extent of sourcing about this character, such as listing sources that one purports to provide significant coverage of him, would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:26, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect. This has potential but right now it is just a poorly refenced plot summary. Out of three sources presented above, the first one is just plot summary, second one gives me no access, third one gives me snippets with some suggesting analysis, but WP:SIGCOV is hard ot judge with snippets. So this has potential to be rescued, but unless this is done, I am afraid a soft deletion (redirect) with no prejudice to anyone restoring it and improving it with sources is the best outcome. PS. I'd also be fine with merge to a list as suggested above, particularly if we could rescue something from the deleted article mentioned. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 00:18, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist for consensus which is currently split between keep and merge/redirect.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:43, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to the film article. Reviewing the sources given (I have full access to one of the book sources), they are really mostly covering Bentley in the context of recapping the plot of the film, not giving deep analysis of the character. Similar story for other sources I found in my search. Mach61 (talk) 00:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment is anyone actually stepping forward to make the 'Fictional characters in' article? Wizmut (talk) 02:25, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

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