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== Famous procrastinators? == |
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I agree with {{u|Jeraphine Gryphon}}: this section is unsourced and doesn't seem to me to be encyclopedic, as it's a collection of anecdotes. There is also potentially [[WP:OR|original research]] and synthesis in the comments about Coleridge. I removed this section but my edits have been undone, so I will remove the content again based on this rationale. Other users are welcome to discuss here! <span style="border:1.5px solid black;padding:1.5px;">[[User:Wikiisawesome|/wia]] [[User talk:Wikiisawesome|/tlk]] [[Special:Contributions/Wikiisawesome|/cntrb]]</span> 14:15, 18 October 2015 (UTC) |
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:Honestly I'm not a fan of the recent edits since most of it doesn't seem to be an improvement ("Identified criteria's"??), but I'm hoping someone other than me can fix this. The famous procrastinators section definitely needs to be sourced, not so much because it's "negative" content about these specific people but more because it seems like something from a Buzzfeed article rather than an encyclopedia. It's just not appropriate. Given how it's unsourced right now then it's better to just remove it entirely. — [[User:Jeraphine Gryphon|Jeraphine Gryphon]] <sup>([[User talk:Jeraphine Gryphon|talk]])</sup> 14:23, 18 October 2015 (UTC) |
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:There seems no original research as mentioned the link is cited in comments as "http://procrastinus.com/procrastination/famous-procrastinators/". The only fact that could be inferred is difference in opinion on a published and existing article(anyhow people cant just make-up stuff from thin air). Then again I don't see the quote as irrelevant either, because it shows a perspective that was held in a certain period of time and its relevance that everyone is susceptible to procrastination low and high in socioeconomic class' and power. Coleridge was a good example to it. Bill Clinton was also good in showing how much has changed through a period of time. His activity in social service areas. Above all procrastination isn't a negative or slanderous matter. it is the stigma that is behind this defensiveness. Then again it seems you are pros. Add material though than censuring, it would help a lot of people. |
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::[http://procrastinus.com/procrastination/famous-procrastinators/ That link] raises another issue: the added content seems to have been directly copied from it. Take a look at [[WP:COPYVIO|Wikipedia's copyright policy]] for more information; in general, we can't add content to Wikipedia articles that's been copied from another source without proper licensing and/or attribution. <span style="border:1.5px solid black;padding:1.5px;">[[User:Wikiisawesome|/wia]] [[User talk:Wikiisawesome|/tlk]] [[Special:Contributions/Wikiisawesome|/cntrb]]</span> 15:13, 18 October 2015 (UTC) |
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== Read and Add == |
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* http://curry.virginia.edu/uploads/resourceLibrary/28_Martinez_MOOCs_Procrastination.pdf |
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* http://isrc.ccs.asia.edu.tw/yourslides/files/258/Academic%20procrastination%20of%20undergraduates.pdf |
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* https://www.reed.edu/academic_support/pdfs/handouts/6%20kinds%20of%20procrastinators.pdf |
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::Article is not about education. This does not matter. [[Special:Contributions/5.138.241.190|5.138.241.190]] ([[User talk:5.138.241.190|talk]]) 12:48, 26 August 2018 (UTC) |
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I don't want to personally edit the page for procrastination, but I do want to bring to the community's attention that the article may not quite be up to Wikipedia's standards, particularly the first paragraph. |
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gave an interesting, non-self-help-y summary of the current state of the research on procrastination (including things like the distinction between procrastinating and rationally delaying something). It might be useful as a starting point for overhauling this article. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 23:51, 7 August 2017 (UTC) |
gave an interesting, non-self-help-y summary of the current state of the research on procrastination (including things like the distinction between procrastinating and rationally delaying something). It might be useful as a starting point for overhauling this article. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 23:51, 7 August 2017 (UTC) |
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== On a slightly less serious note == |
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⚫ | Any chance we could add a reference to readers reading this article as a form of procrastination into the article? It appeals to my sense of humour, but I'm looking for ways to do it in a wikipedia-appropriate way. Any ideas? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.208.1.238|87.208.1.238]] ([[User talk:87.208.1.238#top|talk]]) 15:15, 10 April 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: I'd support that! --[[User:Met-Haus-Allee-M|Met-Haus-Allee-M]] ([[User talk:Met-Haus-Allee-M|talk]]) 22:19, 12 February 2020 (UTC) |
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:+1 Sounds like an exceptional idea. |
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:( I love balls. I am literally about to procrastinate by searching about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball#Prolate_spheroid_balls| prolate spheroid balls], which I'm not a big fan of. I much more prefer round balls, especially ones larger than the ones used in tennis.) <span style="font-family:Avenir,sans-serif"> [[User:XanSurnamehere|<span style="color:white;background:black;border-radius:5px;padding:.1em .4em;font-weight:bold;">Xan ✨</span>]] [[User talk:XanSurnamehere|talk]]</span> 19:26, 20 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== "Cultural Perspective"? == |
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I'm curious: is procrastination a universal human phenomenon, or is it more prevalent in certain cultures? If the latter, then perhaps a "Cultural Perspective" section is warranted? [[User:OlyDLG|OlyDLG]] ([[User talk:OlyDLG|talk]]) 19:54, 15 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:As a class assignment, we had to do research from a cultural perspective on an issue affecting education. My group chose procrastination to research and found some really informative aspects to the cultural influences on the motivation factors of procrastination. We intend to post our findings in the next several days.[[User:Brassinstructor|Brassinstructor]] ([[User talk:Brassinstructor|talk]]) 09:04, 30 November 2018 (UTC) |
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==Possible Addition of Industry sub heading to Correlates and/or mention of Procrastination in Industry under Prevalence== |
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I believe upon reading this article I found that there was a lot of information on Academic Procrastination while others such as, procrastination in industry, was missing. I feel this article: The Impact of Organizational and Personal Factors on Procrastination in Employees of a Modern Russian Industrial Enterprise<ref>Barabanshchikova, Valentina V., et al. “The Impact of Organizational and Personal Factors on Procrastination in Employees of a Modern Russian Industrial Enterprise.” Psychology in Russia. State of the Art, vol. 11, no. 3, July 2018, pp. 69–85. EBSCOhost Academic Search Ultimate, http://lpclibrary.idm.oclc.org/login?url=http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=132173924&site=ehost-live</ref> could help maybe provide another scenario where procrastination exist. [[User:Rajivk937|Rajivk937]] ([[User talk:Rajivk937|talk]]) 00:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC) |
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== Causes == |
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I found [https://humanparts.medium.com/laziness-does-not-exist-3af27e312d01 this article], which says this about procrastination in the academic setting: "When a person fails to begin a project that they care about, it’s typically due to either a) [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/j.1556-6676.1998.tb02548.x anxiety about their attempts not being “good enough”] or b) [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kate_Eskine/publication/49641657_Academic_procrastination_in_college_students_The_role_of_self-reported_executive_function/links/5413057e0cf2bb7347db1857.pdf confusion about what the first steps of the task are]. Not laziness." |
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I suspect that this is basically true, but I'm not thrilled about citing these sources directly. What do you think? [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 20:14, 2 October 2019 (UTC) |
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[[File:Piratens_gravsten,_Ravlunda.jpg|thumb|Piraten's gravestone]] |
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There is a long outstanding request for an illustration here. Could the image from [https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prokrastinering svwp] work, or would that be too local? It shows the quite famous gravestone of Swedish author Fritiof Nilsson Piraten, saying: “Here lie the ashes of a man who used to put everything off until tomorrow. Though he finally changed for the better, and actually died on January 31 1972” (sorry for the poor translation). //[[User:Rotsee|Rotsee]] ([[User talk:Rotsee|talk]]) 20:29, 26 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:Maybe, but it's probably easier to find something that works and is in English. [[User:BernardoSulzbach|BernardoSulzbach]] ([[User talk:BernardoSulzbach|talk]]) 20:36, 26 October 2019 (UTC) |
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== Psychological perspective/ Emotional dysregulation == |
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I ran across a piece published in 2019 in “New York Times” that cites several professionals (with a link to one study) that suggest procrastination should be viewed as a form of emotional dysregulation and a manifestation of self-harm. I thought these points might be worth including in the psych section of the article. |
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Following a request for an image to be added (on this talk page), I've added an image to the article. [[User:DoggieTimesTwo|'''DoggieTimesTwo''']] 03:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC) |
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Onesided view.
[edit]"A 1992 study showed that "52% of surveyed students indicated having a moderate to high need for help concerning procrastination."[3] It is estimated that 80%–95% of college students engage in procrastination, and approximately 75% consider themselves procrastinators."
Here, valid sceptisism to relevance of schoolmaterial, is considered "procrastination". Where would criticism of ultranationalism and totemism be, if such things were not critisised? Indeed it is in school, many hold the opinion that nationalism, parades and totemic "cultural" symbols, are canonical. To "procrastinate" about indoctrination, is a sign of mental health.
Indeed if more practical and relevant things are taught, students own interest will be engaged.
- Article is not about education. This does not matter. 5.138.241.190 (talk) 12:48, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Possible lead for sources
[edit]I thought that this:
Murphy, Heather (2017-07-21). "What We Finally Got Around to Learning at the Procrastination Research Conference". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2017-08-07.
gave an interesting, non-self-help-y summary of the current state of the research on procrastination (including things like the distinction between procrastinating and rationally delaying something). It might be useful as a starting point for overhauling this article. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:51, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
On a slightly less serious note
[edit]Any chance we could add a reference to readers reading this article as a form of procrastination into the article? It appeals to my sense of humour, but I'm looking for ways to do it in a wikipedia-appropriate way. Any ideas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.208.1.238 (talk) 15:15, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'd support that! --Met-Haus-Allee-M (talk) 22:19, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- +1 Sounds like an exceptional idea.
- ( I love balls. I am literally about to procrastinate by searching about prolate spheroid balls, which I'm not a big fan of. I much more prefer round balls, especially ones larger than the ones used in tennis.) Xan ✨ talk 19:26, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
"Cultural Perspective"?
[edit]I'm curious: is procrastination a universal human phenomenon, or is it more prevalent in certain cultures? If the latter, then perhaps a "Cultural Perspective" section is warranted? OlyDLG (talk) 19:54, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- As a class assignment, we had to do research from a cultural perspective on an issue affecting education. My group chose procrastination to research and found some really informative aspects to the cultural influences on the motivation factors of procrastination. We intend to post our findings in the next several days.Brassinstructor (talk) 09:04, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Archiving problem
[edit]MiszaBot is archiving to the wrong archive, so I have disabled it. --Epipelagic (talk) 19:02, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Possible Addition of Industry sub heading to Correlates and/or mention of Procrastination in Industry under Prevalence
[edit]I believe upon reading this article I found that there was a lot of information on Academic Procrastination while others such as, procrastination in industry, was missing. I feel this article: The Impact of Organizational and Personal Factors on Procrastination in Employees of a Modern Russian Industrial Enterprise[1] could help maybe provide another scenario where procrastination exist. Rajivk937 (talk) 00:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ Barabanshchikova, Valentina V., et al. “The Impact of Organizational and Personal Factors on Procrastination in Employees of a Modern Russian Industrial Enterprise.” Psychology in Russia. State of the Art, vol. 11, no. 3, July 2018, pp. 69–85. EBSCOhost Academic Search Ultimate, http://lpclibrary.idm.oclc.org/login?url=http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=132173924&site=ehost-live
Causes
[edit]I found this article, which says this about procrastination in the academic setting: "When a person fails to begin a project that they care about, it’s typically due to either a) anxiety about their attempts not being “good enough” or b) confusion about what the first steps of the task are. Not laziness."
I suspect that this is basically true, but I'm not thrilled about citing these sources directly. What do you think? WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:14, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Image request
[edit]There is a long outstanding request for an illustration here. Could the image from svwp work, or would that be too local? It shows the quite famous gravestone of Swedish author Fritiof Nilsson Piraten, saying: “Here lie the ashes of a man who used to put everything off until tomorrow. Though he finally changed for the better, and actually died on January 31 1972” (sorry for the poor translation). //Rotsee (talk) 20:29, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe, but it's probably easier to find something that works and is in English. BernardoSulzbach (talk) 20:36, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Psychological perspective/ Emotional dysregulation
[edit]I ran across a piece published in 2019 in “New York Times” that cites several professionals (with a link to one study) that suggest procrastination should be viewed as a form of emotional dysregulation and a manifestation of self-harm. I thought these points might be worth including in the psych section of the article.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/smarter-living/why-you-procrastinate-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-self-control.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:2671:5B88:2DDD:2B33:67E:56F0 (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Following a request for an image to be added (on this talk page), I've added an image to the article. DoggieTimesTwo 03:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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