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==Neutrality?==
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I took out the part in the intro that says "internet trolls", because that's a bit biased.
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~Duct_Tape_Tricorn, 25 Jan 08 <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Duct tape tricorn|Duct tape tricorn]] ([[User talk:Duct tape tricorn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Duct tape tricorn|contribs]]) 02:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Excellent, and I think that "pranksters" is still a bit of a loaded word, or is at least used in a biased context here. A rewording of the entire article may be in order.
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==4chan /b/==
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This whole effort is on the part of 4chan /b/, and is not notable (unless there are going to be articles about the Habbo raids next.) not encyclopedic. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GorillaGoals|GorillaGoals]] ([[User talk:GorillaGoals|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaGoals|contribs]]) 19:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:It's been reported on by the mainstream media, which makes it notable enough. --[[User:Clpo13|clpo13]]<sub>([[User_talk:Clpo13|talk]])</sub> 19:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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::Its scope goes far beyond one tiny internet community. I've been following it since it began, and 4chan is only a small portion of what's going on here. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.161.212.103|72.161.212.103]] ([[User talk:72.161.212.103|talk]]) 03:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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== This may become one of the most important things to happen on the internet ==
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This may become one of the most important things to happen on the internet. I wouldn't be so quick to delete it.
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This is an on-going event and is expanding rapidly, it should be maintained. [[User:LamontCranston|LamontCranston]] 19:48, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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:I agree. This is getting a lot of play over at [[Digg]] and other social media sites ([http://www.digg.com/world_news/War_Breaks_Out_Between_Hackers_and_Scientology here] [http://www.digg.com/odd_stuff/ANON_release_Scientology_secret_DOX here] [http://reddit.com/info/66equ/comments/ and here] for some examples). One of those links to a [[Wired (magazine)|Wired]] article and I'm sure we can find lots of other news articles detailing this. I certainly wouldn't "speedy" delete this. Put it up for deletion the old fashioned way. <font style="background:#b22222;">'''[[User:JHMM13|<font style="color:white;font-size:105%">JHMM13</font>]]'''[[User talk:JHMM13|<sup><small><font style="color:#fff;">(Disc)</font></small></sup>]]</font> 08:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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:: Aside from the fact that the article <i>still</i> doesn't <strong>assert</strong> the notability, Digg and other social media sites (i.e. any site with user-generated content) don't cut it as [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. [[User:Dethme0w|Dethme0w]] ([[User talk:Dethme0w|talk]]) 08:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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:::If you need reliable media - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APC_%28magazine%29 Australian Personal Computer ] magazine has picked it up. They're the largest PC print publication in Australia. Article [http://www.apcmag.com/7905/anonymous_threatens_to_dismantle_church_of_scientology_via_internet here]. Deletion is wrong at this stage. Give it a few days. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Flow aus|Flow aus]] ([[User talk:Flow aus|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Flow aus|contribs]]) 09:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:::: You should add that to the external links at least. I have removed the tags, but the article needs inline references. [[User:Dethme0w|Dethme0w]] ([[User talk:Dethme0w|talk]]) 09:22, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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Wired magazine is covering the attacks now. [http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/anonymous-attac.html] Does that count as a reliable source? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Avpmechman|Avpmechman]] ([[User talk:Avpmechman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Avpmechman|contribs]]) 00:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Although I do think this whole thing is quite funny, 13 year old script kiddies on 4chan aren't significant enough for a Wikipedia article, especially without citations. DDoSes happen thousands of times ever day, not every one deserves an article. I've nominated for prod.
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:The external links and linking to other wiki Scientology pages cover it, if you need to be redundent then add citations [[User:LamontCranston|LamontCranston]] 7:45, 25 January (UTC)
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:The attack has been going on for the past week. They are releasing Scientology documents. There are fliers being handed out at physical locations. This isn't just 13 year old script kiddies on 4chan anymore. It's bigger now. Much bigger now. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.66.18.186|76.66.18.186]] ([[User talk:76.66.18.186|talk]]) 04:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Right now this page isn't up to par, and if it doesn’t improve it probably should be deleted. That being said, here are a few observations on how this article could turn into a great article and have the notability it deserves.
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*1. There is more text in the references section than in the article itself (and they don't actually reference anything). Wikipedia isn't a collection of links. since all the news articles basically say the same thing (with different internet "experts" offering their advise on how to avoid such attacks) find the 2 most reliable sources (something like Wired, and then one non-internet source like the Associated Press, or New York Times) and keep those, while deleting the rest.
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*2. cite within the article, using more than 3 sources. show that this is a notable event by showing within the article itself all the reliable people (not blogs, self published sources, or hacker/internet mags) who are talking about the event.
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*3. Tie it into the bigger picture. right now it reads like a News article from the group. show how Project Chanology got its start, what inspired it and how they tie into the internet community.
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*4. Add a criticism section. WOW! Right now it sounds just like the Tom Cruse video did on scientology "THIS IS THE GREATEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN!!!!" people are criticizing the attacks, notable people like XENU.ORG etc. add that stuff. talk about how it failed in parts. this is supposed to be a [[WP:NPOV]] and right now it reads like a promotion add for ANON.

if these things are done, then this could be an A class article and I don't think anyone will try to delete it.[[User:Coffeepusher|Coffeepusher]] ([[User talk:Coffeepusher|talk]]) 19:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
*I will get to work on the above. But it may take some time, say 24 hours max. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 19:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::wow! you realy got on that. I had just set up a critisism section, and then saw that you where already editing one in. Have at it![[User:Coffeepusher|Coffeepusher]] ([[User talk:Coffeepusher|talk]]) 19:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:::No, it really should not be deleted. Sorry. [[User:Hannabee|Hannabee]] ([[User talk:Hannabee|talk]]) 00:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

==Notability==
[[WP:NOTABILITY]] states that a topic is notable if "it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". This topic has been covered by publications such as [[Wired]][http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/anonymous-attac.html], [[APC Magazine]][http://www.apcmag.com/7905/anonymous_threatens_to_dismantle_church_of_scientology_via_internet], [[National Post]][http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posted/archive/2008/01/24/scientology-under-digital-assault-by-web-vigilantes.aspx] and [[Sky News]][http://youtube.com/watch?v=uVaQG67eqwA]. This is clear adherence of [[WP:NOTABILITY]] and [[WP:WEB]], meaning that the article can be kept. Any attempts to delete this article are likely to fail. --[[User:Teggles|Teggles]] ([[User talk:Teggles|talk]]) 04:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

:most of those are internet publications. I will dispute the fact that they are independent of the subject. This "event" has recieved little to no attention from non-web baced media (that means that it is beeing covered by less than 20% of the avalible internet media).[[User:Coffeepusher|Coffeepusher]] ([[User talk:Coffeepusher|talk]]) 18:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::Check the current sources in the article's references section. There have been TV news stories on NBC and Sky News, among others. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 18:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

== [[Peter Griffin|Holy crap Lois!]] ==

Wow, someone wrote an article on Project Chanology in [[Suomi]]! That was fast. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 16:41, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:I was surprised to see it myself. I skimmed over the article and it does look quite good - from a brief reading.--'''[[User:HisSpaceResearch|h i s]]''' <sup>''[[User talk:HisSpaceResearch|s p a c e]]''</sup> <sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/HisSpaceResearch|r e s e a r c h]]'''</sub> 19:32, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's quite likely that this may be put to AfD at some point, and it'll be a controversial AfD if that happens.--'''[[User:HisSpaceResearch|h i s]]''' <sup>''[[User talk:HisSpaceResearch|s p a c e]]''</sup> <sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/HisSpaceResearch|r e s e a r c h]]'''</sub> 19:34, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Wait, I meant I was surprised to see THIS as a stand-alone article, let alone a Suomi version.--'''[[User:HisSpaceResearch|h i s]]''' <sup>''[[User talk:HisSpaceResearch|s p a c e]]''</sup> <sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/HisSpaceResearch|r e s e a r c h]]'''</sub> 19:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I hope that does not happen, for I am in the process of expanding it from sources... [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 19:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


== Etymology ==
== Check sources before removing ==


I can't see anything in the article about the etymology of the word "Chanology". Is it derived from 4chan/711chan? If so (or even if not), surely there's a reliable source somewhere that can be found for it? Not knowing where the name came from is a serious limitation of the article. [[Special:Contributions/2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445]] ([[User talk:2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|talk]]) 13:19, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Many/most of them mention ''both'' the Cruise video and Chanology. And the press release is a valid source. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 19:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:I found it out by myself. [[Special:Contributions/2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445]] ([[User talk:2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|talk]]) 18:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


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: I was just trying to cut down on the links. we currently have 14 sources, and are only using 5 of them. I did mistakenly delete the second tom cruse one, becasue I didn't read to the bottom to see the tie in, but the press relece said the same stuff and all theother sources[[User:Coffeepusher|Coffeepusher]] ([[User talk:Coffeepusher|talk]]) 20:05, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Please create an "Etymology" section at the top of the article, and add:
::I'm incorporating stuff, just give me a bit of time and things will be worked in, but especially please don't remove sources if they are cited in the Notes section. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 20:08, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:"The word "Chanology" is a [[portmanteau]] of [[4chan]] (the site where the project originated) and "Scientology."<ref>{{cite thesis |last=Huang |first=Juanjuan |date=2015 |title=Values and Symbolism in Anonymous’s Brand Identity |type=MA thesis |page=13 |publisher=Duke University |url=https://dukespace.lib.duke.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/10161/10356/Values%20and%20Symbolism%20in%20Anonymous%27s%20Brand%20Identity.pdf |access-date=April 17, 2022}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last1=Olson |first1=Parmy |title=We Are Anonymous |date=2013 |publisher=Random House |isbn=9781448136155 |page=476 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ucE1AAAAQBAJ |access-date=April 17, 2022}}</ref>
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Please also add {{'"}}Chanology" is a portmanteau of "chan" and "Scientology{{"'}} as the second sentence of the lead. [[Special:Contributions/2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445]] ([[User talk:2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|talk]]) 18:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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Good articleProject Chanology has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 28, 2008Articles for deletionKept
February 13, 2008Articles for deletionSpeedily kept
February 28, 2008Good article nomineeListed
February 28, 2008Good article reassessmentDelisted
March 12, 2008Good article reassessmentListed
May 1, 2009Peer reviewReviewed
Current status: Good article

Etymology

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I can't see anything in the article about the etymology of the word "Chanology". Is it derived from 4chan/711chan? If so (or even if not), surely there's a reliable source somewhere that can be found for it? Not knowing where the name came from is a serious limitation of the article. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445 (talk) 13:19, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found it out by myself. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445 (talk) 18:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please create an "Etymology" section at the top of the article, and add:

"The word "Chanology" is a portmanteau of 4chan (the site where the project originated) and "Scientology."[1][2]

References

  1. ^ Huang, Juanjuan (2015). Values and Symbolism in Anonymous’s Brand Identity (PDF) (MA thesis). Duke University. p. 13. Retrieved April 17, 2022.
  2. ^ Olson, Parmy (2013). We Are Anonymous. Random House. p. 476. ISBN 9781448136155. Retrieved April 17, 2022.

Please also add '"Chanology" is a portmanteau of "chan" and "Scientology"' as the second sentence of the lead. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445 (talk) 18:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:44, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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