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== Etymology == |
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== Valkyrie == |
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The film [[Valkyrie (film)|Valkyrie]], starring and produced by Tom Cruise, had a premiere in New York on December 17. Entertainment reporter Roger Friedman noted that it was held "in the private screening room at the [[Time Warner Center]]. Not the Ziegfield or Loews [[Lincoln Square, New York|Lincoln Square]], where most premieres are held in public."<ref name="friedmanpremiere">{{cite web|title=Cruise 'Feeble' in Valkyrie|url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,466948,00.html|work=Fox 411/[[FoxNews.com]]|date=2008-12-15|accessdate=2008-12-16|author=Roger Friedman}}</ref> The venue was chosen in part to minimize the exposure to [[Project Chanology|Scientology protestors]] gathered at the Time Warner Center.<ref name="msnbcvalkyrie">{{cite web|title=Group bungles protest at ‘Valkyrie’ premiere|url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28240738/|date=2008-12-15|accessdate=2008-12-16|author=Courtney Hazlett|work=msnbc.com}}</ref><ref name="dailymaillavalkyrie">{{cite web|last=Hall|first=Alan|url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1097098/Tom-Cruise-takes-red-carpet-premiere---anti-Scientology-protesters-steal-again.html||title=Slender Tom Cruise takes to the red carpet for premiere.... but anti-Scientology protesters steal the show again|date=December 19, 2008 | accessdate=December 28, 2008 |work=[[Mail Online]]}}</ref> For the same reason, Cruise arrived at the December 18 Los Angeles screening through an underground tunnel.<ref name="dailymaillavalkyrie" /> There were also Scientology protests at the European premiere in [[Berlin]],<ref name="heisereport_berlin">{{cite news|url=http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Anonymous-vs-Scientology-Tom-Cruise-signiert-Maske--/meldung/122098|title=Anonymous vs. Scientology: Tom Cruise signiert Maske|date=January 21, 2008 | accessdate=January 21, 2008|work=Heise Online|publisher=[[Heinz Heise]]|language=German}}</ref><ref name="rtlreport_berlin">{{cite video|title=Punkt 9|publisher=[[RTL Television]]|date2=2008-01-21|time=0:11:06-0:12:53|language=German}}</ref> where one protester got his ''V for Vendetta'' mask autographed by Tom Cruise.<ref name="heisereport_berlin" /> Chanology participants shared the limelight with a person in a bunny suit protesting against the hero worship of Claus von Stauffenberg.<ref name="heisereport_berlin" /><ref name="rtlreport_berlin"/> |
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:Added this in. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 07:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Article out of date. Where is Brave Agent Pubeit? == |
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reliable source news link: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/01/15/2009-01-15_greasy_vandal_in_hate_crime_vs_scientolo.html <br/> |
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youtube video of the event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrZk0C91mfg <br/> |
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youtube video of it on TV news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFZiSyzcBaQ <br/> |
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another reliable source news link: http://www.examiner.com/r-5514326~Video__When_Hairy_Met_Scientology.html <br/> |
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I hope others can find more sources. [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 21:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Here's another source. |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/01/28/2009-01-28_man_who_filmed_petroleum_jellycovered_sc.html |
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To sum up what happened: |
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<poem> |
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Brave Agent Filmit |
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Agent Filmit was very brave |
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He walked along with Pubeit And dug himself a grave. |
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</poem> |
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--[[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 00:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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There more stuff if someone wants to search. Oh and here's a nice news artcle http://news.ninemsn.com/technology/751795/anonymous-gears-up-for-anniversary-protest too [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 22:37, 13 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thanks, will take a look at that news article. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 22:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC) |
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When pubeit goes to trial and is made an example out of by scientology's lawyers, they'll be even more news coverage. [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 21:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC) |
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I have added a section on Pubeit, please let me know what you think. What a brave soul. <span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold">[[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:black">'''''Firestorm'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Firestorm|<span style="color:red">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup></span> 05:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thanks, looks pretty good. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 05:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::Should it also be mentioned that Jacob Speregen is a member [[Phi_Theta_Kappa|Phi Theta Kappa]]? [http://www.ptk.org/directories/inductees/ly/71-1-lyind.htm#S 1] [[Special:Contributions/199.219.129.1|199.219.129.1]] ([[User talk:199.219.129.1|talk]]) 20:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Not unless it has been mentioned in a secondary source as related to the incident. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 20:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Anonymous now thinks Chanology is gay? == |
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The [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] tl;dr article on Chanology has the following at the top "Project Chanology is now considered gay by most chans. Posting about it will get you b&, your IP posted. The project still lives on at 888chan 67chan and 37chan". I skimmed through the article but didn't see any reason as to what happened. We need to update this article. [[User:Pocopocopocopoco|Pocopocopocopoco]] ([[User talk:Pocopocopocopoco|talk]]) 03:41, 8 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:[[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] is not an acceptable source. [[WP:RS]]/[[WP:V]] secondary source? '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 05:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::Asking on 4chan might be an excellent way to verify the truth. [[Special:Contributions/71.220.215.168|71.220.215.168]] ([[User talk:71.220.215.168|talk]]) 00:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::That's not an [[WP:RS]]/[[WP:V]] secondary source. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 00:20, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
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If two anonymous wiki's aren't an "is not an acceptable source", then what is? --[[User:Rolontloss|Rolontloss]] ([[User talk:Rolontloss|talk]]) 21:31, 28 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Again, please read [[WP:RS]] and [[WP:V]]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 03:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:Encyclopedia Dramatica isn't a wiki for Anonymous. Anonymous simply has used it and they have encouraged it for traffic. Some anonys have even become sysops, but the main people who own and run Encyclopedia Dramatica are a bunch of people from LiveJournal who never have been part of Anonymous. There's various wikis for Anonymous and they're either dead (wikichan), get little traffic (lurkmoar), or are private wikis (shii's and p0ri's wikis). [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 21:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC) |
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partyvan.info is alive and was setup by LEADERS of anonymous, the place where the raids come from. Anonymous is not just some "LOL WE TALK ANONYMOUSLY" there is a leader and people out there that actually control its users. and Encyclopedia Dramatica is not a bunch of people from LiveJournal. Please "lurk moar". <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rolontloss|Rolontloss]] ([[User talk:Rolontloss|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rolontloss|contribs]]) 00:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Please see [[WP:NOT#FORUM]]. This talk page is for discussion of improvement to ''this article'', not discussion of the subject matter itself. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 03:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::Been a while; nice to see this page is still alive. Regardless, there are no verifiable sources that say Anon regards Chanology as "gay." Unfortunately, despite being the source of the project itself, the chans are NOT acceptable sources. Neither are the wikis. For the record, the partyvan.info wiki is not affiliated with any chan, and can't be considered the "leader" of anonymous by any means. [[User:The one092001|the_one092001]] ([[User talk:The one092001|talk]]) 03:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Not directly Guy Fawkes masks == |
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The masks are from the 4chan meme "Epic Fail Guy", not from Guy Fawkes directly. Epic Fail Guy has a mask made out of Guy Fawkes' face. (Not made to look like his face, EFG is literally wearing Guy Fawkes's face.) [[Special:Contributions/71.220.215.168|71.220.215.168]] ([[User talk:71.220.215.168|talk]]) 00:11, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:This bit is already in the article with a secondary source. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 00:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Recent edits to this article by [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?]] violate [[WP:NOR]] == |
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{{user|Are you ready for IPv6?}} has continued to violate [[WP:NOR]] on this article, and also inserted unsourced material, |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&diff=274240447&oldid=274065607], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&diff=274240681&oldid=274240447], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&diff=274241459&oldid=274240681], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&diff=274242497&oldid=274241794], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&diff=274246313&oldid=274246004], despite warnings to the contrary [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Are_you_ready_for_IPv6%3F&diff=274243215&oldid=273904533], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Are_you_ready_for_IPv6%3F&diff=274246283&oldid=274244060], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Are_you_ready_for_IPv6%3F&diff=274247046&oldid=274246628]. This is inappropriate and risks the article losing its [[WP:GA]]-quality status rating, and the disruption should please stop. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 21:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:: I've been trying to fix things, but you edit the page every 30 seconds and I get an edit conflict 99% of the time, I lose all the work, and am unable to do anything. Then I have to deal with you spamming templates at my talk page instead of talking like a human being. [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 21:51, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I placed a template on your talk page once. The subsequent postings have been of my own writing. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 21:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*Second time {{user|Are you ready for IPv6?}} has edit-warred to add in material violating [[WP:NOR]], unsourced material, material sourced to non-[[WP:RS]] personal video at [[YouTube]], and material and claims synthesized from secondary source but not directly supported by that source to drawn original research conclusions from it = [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&curid=15394859&diff=274248326&oldid=274246892]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 21:58, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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I am in agreement with Cirt here. The edits do appear to violate NOR, and from an outside perspective, his revert was justified. With such a controversial topic, it's very important for the sources and the information to be as sound as possible. Therefore, I'd ask you to discuss this on the talk page fully, so you can justify your additions. I cannot see that so far. Thanks, <font face="Arial"> [[User:PeterSymonds|<font color="#02e">Peter</font><font color="#02b"><b>Symonds</b></font>]] ([[User talk:PeterSymonds|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 22:08, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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: You never looked at my last edit. You looked at an old edit before I changed to Cirt's version. After that, I added a ref Cirt had put in earlier. I then went and cleaned up some extra spacing in templates. [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&diff=274252652&oldid=274246892 this is the final diff] You never looked at my last version, you just blindly reverted. My last edit after you was not a revert either, [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&diff=274255374&oldid=274252652] as it entailed me fixing a mistake I made in a previous edit but keeping the template shortening. The article is oversized cleaning up extra spaces is really needed. [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 22:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&curid=15394859&diff=274255374&oldid=274253309] = 3rd diff of edit-warring by {{user|Are you ready for IPv6?}} to reinsert material violating [[WP:NOR]]/[[WP:SYNTH]]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 22:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:: What exactly is the material in question you object to? [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 22:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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This event is different from where Scientology has claimed for a year Anonymous was using bombs.<ref name="roberts0508"/> |
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= violation of [[WP:NOR]]/[[WP:SYNTH]]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 22:31, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:Furthermore, I do not appreciate being lied to. The version you reverted back to still contained the principle source of the dispute: The problematic CNN source. You did not self-revert back to Cirt's version minus the whitespace, you kept the source there. If we're going to have a discussion, keep it honest, please. Thanks, <font face="Arial"> [[User:PeterSymonds|<font color="#02e">Peter</font><font color="#02b"><b>Symonds</b></font>]] ([[User talk:PeterSymonds|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 22:34, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:"Prior to his incident, Scientology had reported other incidents, which were bomb threats.<ref name="roberts0508"/>" Is this better or is it unsalvageable? [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 23:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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The source about the bomb threats. Is it a bad source? Or is it the text by it you don't like? Or both? |
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Okay, also for the stuff you removed and I didn't put back in when I was able to finish editing without edit conflicts. Youtube videos... now [[WP:RS]] and [[WP:Verifiability]] not only change many times a day, they do not mention them. They basically claim that a video of the incident, even if self-published, is a reliable source. In fact, a video, despite being self-published, is more accurate than any media source. ?? Then there's one source I don't think I added (and I lost the URL, too) because I lost like most of my edits in an edit conflict, but it was a youtube of a news broadcast about the incident on channel 7, too. Well asking about that, too?? Also you had no problem with these sources I added [http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/01/wise_beard_man.php] and [http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/01/jason_beghe_to_1.php], even though they were blogs. I was considering removing those additions I made myself, but you for some reason liked them. |
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Also, I've also seen thousands of articles where, well to put into an anology, would be like if Mark Bunker said something on a mailing list (this is only as an anology) or on alt.religion.scientology (this is only as an anology) and well, I've seen tons of articles where people not only have those in, but they outright say it's quite fine to have that stuff in. So... well I don't even how how to phrase the right question about this??? [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 22:40, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm not sufficiently clued up on this topic to judge the quality of the blog posts, because I'm an outside editor here. However, blogs, though generally frowned upon, can be used as sources so long as the author/site is reputable. Blog responses and such are obviously disregarded as sources, because 99% of the time, the content is inadmissible. <font face="Arial"> [[User:PeterSymonds|<font color="#02e">Peter</font><font color="#02b"><b>Symonds</b></font>]] ([[User talk:PeterSymonds|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 22:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::What about the other stuff I asked about RS and V? When I was editing lots of people came by. When I asked a lot of questions, most of them stayed away. [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 23:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC) |
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I have removed the above quoted problem sentence as [[WP:NOR]]/[[WP:SYNTH]]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 00:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:I agree with the removal and would have done so myself. Please discuss the additions as they aren't non-controversial. Thanks, <font face="Arial"> [[User:PeterSymonds|<font color="#02e">Peter</font><font color="#02b"><b>Symonds</b></font>]] ([[User talk:PeterSymonds|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 00:26, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Cirt, please address my questions on reliable sources and verifiability I asked you before in the long comment post here above. [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 00:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:I pretty much agree with what has already been said by {{user|PeterSymonds}}. Which source in particular would you like to add back in? '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 00:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::youtube stuff? [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 02:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::That would pretty much specifically violate [[WP:NOR]]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 10:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::::What about if it's a video of the evening news? [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 16:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Then linking to it violates [[WP:COPYLINKS]] - but if you have enough information on the source itself so as to satisfy [[WP:V]], you can cite the news source without linking to [[YouTube]]. Which source are we talking about? '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 17:02, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::It was the one I lost in an edit conflict that I never added as I lost the URL. It was some youtube of a channel 7 news report on pubeit. Now why do say the actual video of the pubeit incident is not allowed. It can't be original research since the cameraman and pubeit are both in jail so it would be a secondary source. Plus what I mentined earlier that most people on Wikipedia consider what someone said on a mailing list to be a valid source. [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 17:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::Unfortunately no, none of what you just mentioned would satisfy [[WP:RS]]. And please stop referring to this individual as "pubeit". '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 17:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::::I would like to point out that the individual himself, as well as the Chanology community, refer to him as Agent Pubeit. The [http://news.ninemsn.com/technology/751795/anonymous-gears-up-for-anniversary-protest 9News article] refers to him as such also, which meets [[WP:RS]]. <span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold">[[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:black">'''''Firestorm'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Firestorm|<span style="color:red">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup></span> 17:49, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::::Okay I will take a look at that source. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 17:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Guy fawkes/EFG? == |
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This article incorrectly states that EFG is 4Chan's name for guy fawkes, this is not true. He did not wear the mask from the beginning, he got it in 2006. In one "episode" of EFG, Guy Fawkes threatens him with a lawsuit, further proving he's not intended to be Guy Fawkes.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] ([[User talk:86.87.28.191|talk]]) 13:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:Secondary source satisfying [[WP:RS]] and [[WP:V]] for this assertion? '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 13:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:: Simply remove the offending piece. We don't need to explain the etymology of every *chan meme. Just say that they are Guy Fawkes masks based on the *chan character of EFG, and don't assert either way that EFG is or is not Guy Fawkes. As was already presented, the mask that EFG wears is in fact made from the real face of Guy Fawkes, but it'd be hard to find a source for that. So to balance both factual correctness with sources, simply cut the incorrect part, and don't replace it until we have a verifiable source. [[User:The one092001|the_one092001]] ([[User talk:The one092001|talk]]) 06:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::There already are reliable sources satisfying [[WP:V]] backing up the current info in the article. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 10:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::::The link for that source is dead. [[User:Ukvilly|Ukvilly]] ([[User talk:Ukvilly|talk]]) 03:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::I removed the info, source, and dead link. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 04:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Latest sock disruption == |
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Some of the more recent socks used to revert to the same material in this article. More info [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Project_Chanology&diff=214821670&oldid=214780557 here], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Project_Chanology&diff=215133126&oldid=215012361 here], [[Wikipedia:Long term abuse/DavidYork71|here]], and [[Talk:Project_Chanology/Archive_3#Ongoing_campaign.3F|here]]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 05:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:This is an ongoing issue. If anybody else makes that same edit to this article, it is safe to assume that they are also either a sockpuppet or meatpuppet, and should be blocked. So if anyone is reading this and considering changing the article in that same way, then don't. You will be held accountable. <span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold">[[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:black">'''''Firestorm'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Firestorm|<span style="color:red">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup></span> 05:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::Agree with this comment by {{user|Firestorm}}. I am adding some more socks that have disrupted this article to the above list. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 05:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Apparently at [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/YesOn8/Archive]], users investigating {{user|YesOn8}} also thought that YesOn8 was itself a sock of {{user|DavidYork71}}. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 06:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC) |
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I can't see anything in the article about the etymology of the word "Chanology". Is it derived from 4chan/711chan? If so (or even if not), surely there's a reliable source somewhere that can be found for it? Not knowing where the name came from is a serious limitation of the article. [[Special:Contributions/2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445]] ([[User talk:2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|talk]]) 13:19, 17 April 2022 (UTC) |
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== Violations of WP:NOR policy == |
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:I found it out by myself. [[Special:Contributions/2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445]] ([[User talk:2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|talk]]) 18:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC) |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&diff=278874301&oldid=278679359] and then again [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&diff=278880373&oldid=278875928] = violations of [[WP:NOR]] policy. This should be removed from the article. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 04:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Please create an "Etymology" section at the top of the article, and add: |
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:no it should not. I tried to go to the site, but it was down. Please [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]]. [[User:FMAFan1990|FMAFan1990]] ([[User talk:FMAFan1990|talk]]) 04:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:"The word "Chanology" is a [[portmanteau]] of [[4chan]] (the site where the project originated) and "Scientology."<ref>{{cite thesis |last=Huang |first=Juanjuan |date=2015 |title=Values and Symbolism in Anonymous’s Brand Identity |type=MA thesis |page=13 |publisher=Duke University |url=https://dukespace.lib.duke.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/10161/10356/Values%20and%20Symbolism%20in%20Anonymous%27s%20Brand%20Identity.pdf |access-date=April 17, 2022}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last1=Olson |first1=Parmy |title=We Are Anonymous |date=2013 |publisher=Random House |isbn=9781448136155 |page=476 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ucE1AAAAQBAJ |access-date=April 17, 2022}}</ref> |
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::Can you provide a [[WP:RS]]/[[WP:V]] secondary source to back up this claim? '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 04:30, 22 March 2009 (UTC) |
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{{Reflist-talk}} |
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:::The relevant link has been added. [[User:FMAFan1990|FMAFan1990]] ([[User talk:FMAFan1990|talk]]) 04:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Please also add {{'"}}Chanology" is a portmanteau of "chan" and "Scientology{{"'}} as the second sentence of the lead. [[Special:Contributions/2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445]] ([[User talk:2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445|talk]]) 18:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC) |
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::::That is not a ''secondary'' source, and again, that is a violation of [[WP:NOR]]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 04:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Semi-protection-unlocked.svg|28px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to [[Help:Editing|edit the page yourself]]. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 12:44, 27 April 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::{{done}}, [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Project_Chanology&curid=15394859&diff=278883528&oldid=278881525 removed] as not backed up to a [[WP:RS]] source, and a violation of [[WP:NOR]]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 04:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Etymology
[edit]I can't see anything in the article about the etymology of the word "Chanology". Is it derived from 4chan/711chan? If so (or even if not), surely there's a reliable source somewhere that can be found for it? Not knowing where the name came from is a serious limitation of the article. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445 (talk) 13:19, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- I found it out by myself. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445 (talk) 18:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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Please create an "Etymology" section at the top of the article, and add:
- "The word "Chanology" is a portmanteau of 4chan (the site where the project originated) and "Scientology."[1][2]
References
- ^ Huang, Juanjuan (2015). Values and Symbolism in Anonymous’s Brand Identity (PDF) (MA thesis). Duke University. p. 13. Retrieved April 17, 2022.
- ^ Olson, Parmy (2013). We Are Anonymous. Random House. p. 476. ISBN 9781448136155. Retrieved April 17, 2022.
Please also add '"Chanology" is a portmanteau of "chan" and "Scientology"' as the second sentence of the lead. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:D58E:EA80:4B3D:5445 (talk) 18:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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