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== Merger with [[Shot (pellet)]] == |
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[[Prilling tower]] redirects here, and evidently refers to a current method of forming fertilizer, yet here nothing is mentioned of this. What to do? |
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{{Old merge full|otherpage=Shot (pellet)|date=March 2013|result=do not merge|talk=Talk:Shot (pellet)#Merge of shot tower}} |
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I ended up on this page because I was re-readig a classic: |
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"They don't think nothing of pulling a shot-tower up by the roots, and belting a Sunday-school superintendent over the head with it—or any other man." - Mark Twain. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (Kindle Locations 336-337). |
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If there was no 'shot-tower" page, would I have ended up with this fascinating information? Possibly - but not as easily/ This page is Google's first result for shot-tower. |
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The whole point is to make a useful reference for users, no? |
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[[Special:Contributions/12.193.238.99|12.193.238.99]] ([[User talk:12.193.238.99|talk]]) 00:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC) |
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[[Prilling tower]] redirects here, and evidently refers to a current method of forming fertilizer, yet here nothing is mentioned of this. What to do? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.189.108.27|67.189.108.27]] ([[User talk:67.189.108.27|talk]]) 06:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> |
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:Good question! Might want to ask [[User:The Anome]], as he was the one who [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prilling_tower&action=history created the redirect]. [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] 06:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:The two are somewhat related, and perhaps shot towers could be considered a type of prilling tower. However, I think [[prill]] manufacturing should have an article to itself, as it is a more advanced and modern technique. In addition to free falling down a tower, prills can also be formed by dropping the molten product through liquid nitrogen, which doesn't require a "tower" at all. In fact, a type of ice cream, [[Dippin' Dots]], is made in this exact manner. So I say it should not redirect here, nor should this article be modified to go into prill manufacturing. --[[User:Dan East|Dan East]] 11:29, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Lead shot manufacture == |
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The info on how shot was and is manufactured is currently spread across at least three pages; [[lead shot]], [[shot tower]], and [[Bliemeister method]]. We should work to somehow consolidated / correctly link this information so that it appears once and can be maintained. - [[User:Davandron|Davandron]] | [[User talk:Davandron|Talk]] 02:56, 11 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== Crane Park Shot Tower, Twickenham, UK ? == |
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There is much discussion as to whether this was actually a 'shot' tower, or if it was just a watchmans tower. Surrounded as it was by gunpowder mills it would have been highly dangerous to use a furnace to melt lead. The men and horses allowed on the site had to have special shoes because a spark from a hob-nail on a stone was enough to cause an explosion, so a fire and moulten lead would be out of the question. Also the 'rule books' for the site contained specific instructions for all activities but don't mention making shot. Also, the tower is too short to successfully make lead shot; there is not enough of a drop to make the pellets round. It is commonly called the 'shot' tower, should it be included on this list. [[User:AndrewJFulker|AndrewJFulker]] ([[User talk:AndrewJFulker|talk]]) 10:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC) |
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== Broken link == |
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I don't know how to properly make entries here or fix this, but the link to "# ^ History of the American Shot Tower" is 404 on the target page. Perhaps someone may wish to look into that. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/208.190.133.203|208.190.133.203]] ([[User talk:208.190.133.203|talk]]) 01:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== Height == |
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I measured the angle to the top from the NE conrner of Gold and Alexandra at 20 to 22 degrees, using GPS phone. |
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Google Earth puts this distance at 176m along the4 ground. |
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h = 176 * Tan(22deg) = 71M, 176 * TAN(20deg) = 65M. |
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Both measurments are taller than the 50m referenced to Heritage Victoria. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/114.198.78.240|114.198.78.240]] ([[User talk:114.198.78.240|talk]]) 08:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Oldest Tower in the US? == |
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There's conflicting information in this article. The Sparks Shot Tower's notes claims that it's the oldest shot tower in the United States, as does its historical marker, which is featured in a photo in its own article, but the Jackson Ferry Shot Tower is listed as being a year older both here and in its own article. Obviously these things cannot be true at the same time, so we should try to find out which is accurate. |
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Merger with Shot (pellet)
[edit]This article was nominated for merging with Shot (pellet) on March 2013. The result of the discussion was do not merge. |
I ended up on this page because I was re-readig a classic:
"They don't think nothing of pulling a shot-tower up by the roots, and belting a Sunday-school superintendent over the head with it—or any other man." - Mark Twain. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (Kindle Locations 336-337).
If there was no 'shot-tower" page, would I have ended up with this fascinating information? Possibly - but not as easily/ This page is Google's first result for shot-tower.
The whole point is to make a useful reference for users, no?
12.193.238.99 (talk) 00:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Connection with prilling towers
[edit]Prilling tower redirects here, and evidently refers to a current method of forming fertilizer, yet here nothing is mentioned of this. What to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.108.27 (talk) 06:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- Good question! Might want to ask User:The Anome, as he was the one who created the redirect. DMacks 06:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- The two are somewhat related, and perhaps shot towers could be considered a type of prilling tower. However, I think prill manufacturing should have an article to itself, as it is a more advanced and modern technique. In addition to free falling down a tower, prills can also be formed by dropping the molten product through liquid nitrogen, which doesn't require a "tower" at all. In fact, a type of ice cream, Dippin' Dots, is made in this exact manner. So I say it should not redirect here, nor should this article be modified to go into prill manufacturing. --Dan East 11:29, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Lead shot manufacture
[edit]The info on how shot was and is manufactured is currently spread across at least three pages; lead shot, shot tower, and Bliemeister method. We should work to somehow consolidated / correctly link this information so that it appears once and can be maintained. - Davandron | Talk 02:56, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Crane Park Shot Tower, Twickenham, UK ?
[edit]There is much discussion as to whether this was actually a 'shot' tower, or if it was just a watchmans tower. Surrounded as it was by gunpowder mills it would have been highly dangerous to use a furnace to melt lead. The men and horses allowed on the site had to have special shoes because a spark from a hob-nail on a stone was enough to cause an explosion, so a fire and moulten lead would be out of the question. Also the 'rule books' for the site contained specific instructions for all activities but don't mention making shot. Also, the tower is too short to successfully make lead shot; there is not enough of a drop to make the pellets round. It is commonly called the 'shot' tower, should it be included on this list. AndrewJFulker (talk) 10:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Broken link
[edit]I don't know how to properly make entries here or fix this, but the link to "# ^ History of the American Shot Tower" is 404 on the target page. Perhaps someone may wish to look into that. Thank you. 208.190.133.203 (talk) 01:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Height
[edit]I measured the angle to the top from the NE conrner of Gold and Alexandra at 20 to 22 degrees, using GPS phone.
Google Earth puts this distance at 176m along the4 ground. h = 176 * Tan(22deg) = 71M, 176 * TAN(20deg) = 65M.
Both measurments are taller than the 50m referenced to Heritage Victoria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.198.78.240 (talk) 08:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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Oldest Tower in the US?
[edit]There's conflicting information in this article. The Sparks Shot Tower's notes claims that it's the oldest shot tower in the United States, as does its historical marker, which is featured in a photo in its own article, but the Jackson Ferry Shot Tower is listed as being a year older both here and in its own article. Obviously these things cannot be true at the same time, so we should try to find out which is accurate. Archrid (talk) 07:58, 16 November 2021 (UTC)