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Why are references to her nickname "Superhead" always deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:547:200:8020:3088:730F:D931:66CA (talk) 23:30, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of reliable sources. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 23:39, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's not included because it's unseemly, insulting, and irrelevant; Wikipedia is not a tabloid. Even if there are reliable sources for it, we're not going to print the sexualized slur some people have given her just because it exists. (She's said herself that she finds it offensive.^[1]) Rebb ing 23:57, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If it is 'insulting' then why would she announce to the media a week ago that she had given Jay-Z a 3- minute session of that which the nickname implies, in the back of a Maybach no less? She simply could have said something like "We had an affair" instead of getting into the mechanical details. And that was just one of many interviews where she brags of her prowess in, uh, that department. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:547:200:8020:483C:A007:C8C9:3A65 (talk) 10:47, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you're referring to her piece in xoJane?^[2] I think it's a fundamental principle of insults that someone will find a word offensive without finding its base meaning insulting; it's a respect thing; it's about the intent implicit in the word. For comparison, it would be permissible to describe an openly homosexual man as gay, but it would be inappropriate to describe him as a faggot. Rebb ing 15:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Hillary Crosley Coker (August 7, 2015). "Karrine Steffans on Kim Kardashian, Amber Rose and Shaking 'Superhead'". Jezebel. Archived from the original on August 8, 2015. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
^ Steffans-Short, Karrine (April 29, 2016). "I Am Becky with the Good Hair". xoJane. Archived from the original on May 5, 2016. Retrieved May 6, 2016. {{cite magazine}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

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[1] Hillary Crosley Coker (August 7, 2015). "Karrine Steffans on Kim Kardashian, Amber Rose and Shaking 'Superhead'". Jezebel. Archived from the original on August 8, 2015. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

[2] Steffans-Short, Karrine (April 29, 2016). "I Am Becky with the Good Hair". xoJane. Archived from the original on May 5, 2016. Retrieved May 6, 2016. {{cite magazine}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

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+Why are references to her nickname "Superhead" always deleted?  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:547:200:8020:3088:730F:D931:66CA|2601:547:200:8020:3088:730F:D931:66CA]] ([[User talk:2601:547:200:8020:3088:730F:D931:66CA|talk]]) 23:30, 3 May 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+:Lack of [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]]. —&nbsp;[[User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Malik Shabazz|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|Stalk]]</sub> 23:39, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
+: It's not included because it's unseemly, insulting, and irrelevant; Wikipedia is not a tabloid. Even if there are reliable sources for it, we're not going to print the sexualized slur some people have given her just because it exists. (She's said herself that she finds it offensive.<ref>{{cite web |author=Hillary Crosley Coker |title=Karrine Steffans on Kim Kardashian, Amber Rose and Shaking 'Superhead' |website=[[Jezebel (website)|Jezebel]] |date=August 7, 2015 |url=http://themuse.jezebel.com/karrine-steffans-on-kim-kardashian-amber-rose-and-shak-1716737248 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150808220020/http://themuse.jezebel.com/karrine-steffans-on-kim-kardashian-amber-rose-and-shak-1716737248 |archive-date=August 8, 2015 |dead-url=no}}</ref>) <span style="font:bold 1em Century">[[User:Rebbing|<span style="background:#f660ab;color:#60f6f6">&nbsp;Rebb</span>]][[User_talk:Rebbing|<span style="background:#60f6f6;color:#f660ab">ing&nbsp;</span>]]</span> 23:57, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
+::If it is 'insulting' then why would she announce to the media a week ago that she had given Jay-Z a 3- minute session of that which the nickname implies, in the back of a Maybach no less? She simply could have said something like ''"We had an affair"'' instead of getting into the mechanical details. And that was just one of many interviews where she brags of her prowess in, uh, that department.   <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:547:200:8020:483C:A007:C8C9:3A65|2601:547:200:8020:483C:A007:C8C9:3A65]] ([[User talk:2601:547:200:8020:483C:A007:C8C9:3A65|talk]]) 10:47, 6 May 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+::: I assume you're referring to her piece in ''xoJane''?<ref>{{cite magazine |last=Steffans-Short |first=Karrine |title=I Am Becky with the Good Hair |date=April 29, 2016 |magazine=[[xoJane]] |url=http://www.xojane.com/sex/becky-with-good-hair-karrine-steffans-short-jay-z-hookup |access-date=May 6, 2016 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160505012429/http://www.xojane.com/sex/becky-with-good-hair-karrine-steffans-short-jay-z-hookup |archive-date=May 5, 2016 |dead-url=no}}</ref> I think it's a fundamental principle of insults that someone will find a word offensive without finding its base meaning insulting; it's a respect thing; it's about the intent implicit in the word. For comparison, it would be permissible to describe an openly homosexual man as gay, but it would be inappropriate to describe him as a faggot. <span style="font:bold 1em Century">[[User:Rebbing|<span style="background:#f660ab;color:#60f6f6">&nbsp;Rebb</span>]][[User_talk:Rebbing|<span style="background:#60f6f6;color:#f660ab">ing&nbsp;</span>]]</span> 15:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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