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== SPOILERS IN INTRO ==
== Sylar's power is not, and never has been, empathic mimicry. ==


Why are there spoilers in the intro? I was quite annoyed to read a snippet of it (possible spoiler alert: basically, what happens to Sylar by the end). Can someone edit that? Basic sentence or two for such an unimportant article, anyway.
Empathic mimicry is a power separate to intuitive aptitude; saying otherwise is merely speculation as it was never stated in the show. The empathy is just another part of his main power i.e. understanding the other person. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.147.107.201|86.147.107.201]] ([[User talk:86.147.107.201|talk]]) 22:56, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If you look up information on a topic don't be surprised to '''FIND INFORMATION ON THAT TOPIC'''. Wikipedia does not support spoilers. [[User:Padillah|Padillah]] ([[User talk:Padillah|talk]]) 14:13, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
:It was actually stated by Arthur in the show. ~<font size="3" face="Calibri">[[User:Auzemandius|Auzemandius]]</font> {[[User talk:Auzemandius|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Auzemandius|contrib]]} 22:59, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:I agree with you; there shouldn't be spoilers in the introductory paragraph. It's fine for the rest of the article to contain information, but only the basic facts about Sylar should be mentioned in the beginning.
No, it was stated by Arthur that Sylar could use his empathy; once again, this is different to the specific power of empathic mimicry. Peter Petrelli is able to acquire powers without concious thought as demonstrated throughout the show so far. Sylar had to actively concentrate to do it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.147.107.201|86.147.107.201]] ([[User talk:86.147.107.201|talk]]) 23:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Arthur stated "You can take all the ablities you want without killing." "By accessing your empathy, that part of your heart I know is there. You've had this power all along." We have to go off of that. You're speculating that empathic mimicry is only part of his powers. You're also speculating that he had to actively concentrate to use empathy. He could have absorbed it, but had trouble using it.
:If you're one of the writers and know this for certain, then get an interview and we can source it off of that, but else, it's speculation unless said in the show. <s>Arthur stated that Sylar had the same ability that Peter did.</s> ~<font size="3" face="Calibri">[[User:Auzemandius|Auzemandius]]</font> {[[User talk:Auzemandius|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Auzemandius|contrib]]} 00:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
I am speculating, sorry. However if I am, you certainly are as well; Arthur never states that Sylar has the same power as Peter, merely that he has had empathy in his heart all along. No one in the show has exhibited more than one natural power, so I really don't think it should be listed as such. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.147.107.201|86.147.107.201]] ([[User talk:86.147.107.201|talk]]) 01:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:In [http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18931 this Q&A session with Joe Pokaski and Aron Coliete], it is stated that there is no difference between Sylar "using his ability to ‘understand how things work’ through empathy" and Peter's method of power acquisiton. IMO that should be good enough unless it's contradicted by a better source. Maybe their powers aren't identical, but they don't need to be. I haven't seen anyone arguing that we shouldn't call Flint's power pyrokinesis because we already use that term to describe Meredith's power and Flint's flames are blue rather than orange. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] ([[User talk:Gordon Ecker|talk]]) 01:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


== Article is FAR too long ==
Nobody exhibited more than one power? Not the Haitian? And also possibly Matt Parkman and Aurthur Patrelli? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.123.90.25|69.123.90.25]] ([[User talk:69.123.90.25|talk]]) 06:32, 19 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


This article is dis-proportionally long for the 'importance' of the subject matter. A purging is in order...
In "I Am Sylar", when Danko asks Sylar who did he kill for his ability to understand how things work, Sylar says that this power is the only which was "always truly mine". Taking this in consideration, his empathic acquisition of abilities appears to be an aspect of his understanding power, ''not'' empathic mimicry, he doesn't get powers just by standing near people, he needs to put some effort in it, unlike Peter's original ability. [[Special:Contributions/189.60.194.58|189.60.194.58]] ([[User talk:189.60.194.58|talk]]) 01:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/72.218.136.173|72.218.136.173]] ([[User talk:72.218.136.173|talk]]) 16:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:The comic book resources article has confirmed that the method Sylar used to acquire Elle Bishop's power in The Eclipse, Part 1 is identical or nearly identical to the method of power acquisition used by Peter Petrelli in the first two seasons. "Always truly mine" has several plausible interpretations, it could refer to how Sylar didn't discover his empathic mimicry until long after he discovered his intuitive aptitude ability, to Sylar not being comfortable with his empathic mimicry, or it could indicate that Sylar considers mimicry a facet of his intuitive aptitude. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] ([[User talk:Gordon Ecker|talk]]) 06:34, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
::You almost made my point for me, Sylar did use an empathy to get Elle's ability, but it certainly not empathic mimicry. Empathic mimicry as shown before by Peter allows the user to absorb abilities by merely standing next to the person, Sylar had to go through a very emotional moment in order to understand Elle, understand being the key word. His ability is to understand how things work, he usually understands how the brain works to get an ability, with Elle, he just understood her from another perspective. If Sylar had empathic mimicry he'd have her ability since she stopped him from killing himself. His understand Elle is merely another facet of his ability to understand how things work, another application of it. His empathy is not and has never been the same as Peter's, the only similarity between them is that emotions allow them to acquire other's abilities, and that's it. I'd say it's almost an homologous process, but still distinct processes and distinct abilities. [[Special:Contributions/189.4.242.42|189.4.242.42]] ([[User talk:189.4.242.42|talk]]) 22:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Just because I'm not a registered user it doesn't mean I don't like being ignored, I have yet to see someone put forward a good counterargument for what I said above, a couple months seems enough to come up with one. [[Special:Contributions/189.4.233.126|189.4.233.126]] ([[User talk:189.4.233.126|talk]]) 20:42, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::IMO we should either handle his powers in the infobox like we do for [[Matt Parkman]] (with separate entries for each major application of his base power or powers), or like we do for [[Hiro Nakamura]] (listing each major application of his base power as a bullet point under his base power). -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] ([[User talk:Gordon Ecker|talk]]) 23:50, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


:@[[User:72.218.136.173|72.218.136.173]] 14 years later it's still way too long [[Special:Contributions/66.41.166.252|66.41.166.252]] ([[User talk:66.41.166.252|talk]]) 08:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Sylar used empathetic mimicry to take James Martin's power of shape shifting. Thats why there was no mess. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.222.193.229|98.222.193.229]] ([[User talk:98.222.193.229|talk]]) 01:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Incorrect, he used '''empathy''', not empathic mimicry. The name "empathic mimicry" is extraordinarily misleading, as there is no empathy actually involved, you simply have to be around the person. Sylar has to actually understand the person he's taking the power from, he understood Elle's parent issues and James Martin's desire to be someone else. Also. it's more speculative to say that he has empathic mimicry then to say he uses a power similar to it, as this would imply that he and Peter use the same power, something that has not been explicitly confirmed.--[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] ([[User talk:PJDEP|talk]]) 21:05, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
::Empathy is involved. That is why Sylar and Peter's powers differed. Sylar has little empathy, so he had to struggle to use empathic mimicry, and could only use it with Elle and Martin (people he understood and thus empathized with). Peter was very empathic at the beginning of the series, which is why he just needed to be around people. I can't remember where, but in one of the Behind the Eclipses the writers said that Peter's new mimicking power is only through touch because Peter has become less empathic throughout the series. [[User:Ophois|<span style="color:#AC2828">'''Ω'''</span>]][[User talk:Ophois|<span style="color:black">'''pho'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ophois|<span style="color:#AC2828">'''is'''</span>]] 21:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Peter copied pyrokinesis from Flint, but I doubt he was feeling like a dumb rapist at the time. The same goes for Ted, Elle, and D.L., he had zero interactions with any of them. Although Peter has been described as empathic, he rarely seems to connect with those he takes powers from. --[[User:PJDEP|PJDEP]] ([[User talk:PJDEP|talk]]) 00:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

== Flight?? Don't think so ==

There is no evidence to justify saying that Sylar took Nathan's ability for flight. I was particularly shocked by this'un because specifically, it was only the second time I'd ever see Sylar kill someone without taking their ability, the first being his Mommy, which doesn't count as [a] unintentional and [b] no power to take. If you would like to rewatch the season finale, I think you'll find Nathan's throat was slit, not his skull. I'll try to remove this, though I haven't diddled with a chart on wikipedia before, so I'll do so carefully. malenkylizards [[Special:Contributions/74.10.227.130|74.10.227.130]] ([[User talk:74.10.227.130|talk]]) 17:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:Sylar doesn't have to cut his skull open to get his power. He has taken on most of Nathan's memories, so he understands Nathan enough to absorb his power, which he displays during the fight. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 17:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay, conceded that he can take the powers empathically. But do *I* need to rewatch it? Did we see Sylar fly?? Did he do this before killing him? This could be embarrassing. :-p malenkylizards [[Special:Contributions/74.10.227.130|74.10.227.130]] ([[User talk:74.10.227.130|talk]]) 17:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:Sylar flies right before killing Nathan. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 18:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

:You're gonna need more than that to put something like that in the article Ophois. Are you really gonna make me say the words? [[User:Padillah|Padillah]] ([[User talk:Padillah|talk]]) 18:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, for instance, could you convince me that it wasn't Sylar grabbing onto Nathan as he flew out the window? I'll rewatch the scene when I'm next at a computer that can handle the video :-p malenkylizards [[Special:Contributions/74.10.227.130|74.10.227.130]] ([[User talk:74.10.227.130|talk]]) 18:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

We know that Sylar's been able to levitate himself before (attacking Molly Walker and killing Dale Smithers). The first time the audience has explicitly seen Sylar do it was during his fight with Nathan (though he didn't look exactly graceful while in the air). Since Sylar can effectively fly via telekinesis, there is an alternative explanation to him taking Nathan's ability. He '''may''' have taken Flight from Nathan during the battle via empathy (he has studied Nathan's history via clairsentience) but until confirmation from the writers, claiming that he has '''definitively''' taken Flight is speculation. [[User:Pagemaster146|Pagemaster146]] ([[User talk:Pagemaster146|talk]]) 18:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

:Please rewatch the scene. The flight sound effect is clearly used as Sylar flies onto the balcony and lands. If it was telekinesis, then that sound effect would have been used, such as when he was copying Doyle's power on Claire. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 18:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

::It's Gabriel Sylar using TK (telekinesis) similar to [[Magneto (comics)|Magneto]] using magnetic fields to levitate instead of flying. ([[User:JoeLoeb|JoeLoeb]] ([[User talk:JoeLoeb|talk]]) 21:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC))
:::And your evidence of this is...? [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 21:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:: Just a hunch which I believe. Sylar obviously loves his telekinesis, he uses it every damn time, why no levitate (flying for you). ([[User:JoeLoeb|JoeLoeb]] ([[User talk:JoeLoeb|talk]]) 22:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC))
:::As I pointed out, the flying sound effect is used. If he was merely using TK, then the TK effect would have been used. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 23:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
::It could be a mistake. Although, Gabriel did take Elle's power though not killing her. Maybe you're right. ([[User:JoeLoeb|JoeLoeb]] ([[User talk:JoeLoeb|talk]]) 00:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC))
Ophois, I rewatched the scene and the evidence is in your favor; however, I still consider the evidence brief, and it honestly doesn't make a lot of sense chronologically or logistically. This encounter is all fighting, and a significant part of it goes on outside of the room, presumably in the air [though this is speculation]. Every other time that Sylar's taken somebody else's power, it's taken some time, some quiet, alone time, with this other person dead, dying or incapacitated. Not with this person flying through the air throwing punches, not in the three seconds Claire was watching through the crack in the door. Until we have further evidence, either from season 4 or confirmation from the writers or whatever, I move to keep flight off the list until then. Reasoning: Power-taking unseen, evidence of flight limited to a single sound effect, unlikely circumstances. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.114.174.169|76.114.174.169]] ([[User talk:76.114.174.169|talk]]) 00:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Alone time like he had with Nathan before Claire showed up? He had already gone through all of Nathan's stuff and had a great understanding of him, so not much time is probably needed. Just because he didn't fly before their big fight doesn't mean he didn't already acquire it before that. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 01:11, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It is certainly likely that Sylar obtained Flight (via empathy, resulting from understanding Nathan through clairsentience) and, moreso, if Sylar is supposed to believe he is actually Nathan, he needs to have Flight (since Nathan did) to mask the fact that he is not really Nathan. However, until it is confirmed, we should leave it off. [[User:Pagemaster146|Pagemaster146]] ([[User talk:Pagemaster146|talk]]) 01:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

::I don't see why it is being kept off. I can understand that it can be speculation that he got it from Nathan, but the flight sound effect confirms that he can fly. I don't see how there can be any argument against that. If nothing else, it should be listed that he can fly but given Unknown as the source of the power. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 01:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

:::You're right concerning his ability to fly (or levitate) regardless of the power source. I've added a blurb referencing him using telekinesis to sneak up on Dale Smither via levitation. That's the best we can do for now. However, regarding sound effects used on the show, it is known <s>has been pointed time and again</s> that sound effects are often used for the "coolness" factor (e.g. scary voices back in S1), so the usage of a specific sound is not irrefutable proof of Flight usage. [[User:Pagemaster146|Pagemaster146]] ([[User talk:Pagemaster146|talk]]) 04:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::::...so I totally just added flight without seeing this whole section. Crap. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 15:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Since the power can't be conclusively determined in the episode, refer to [[WP:RS]] please. Wait for a writer/actor to discuss this aspect of his power in an interview. --[[User:Madchester|Madchester]] ([[User talk:Madchester|talk]]) 22:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:Pagemaster, what do you mean "time and again"? That happened once or twice in the first season only. I don't ever recall anything like that happening again. And there's a difference between having a sound effect when he's yelling and having the flight sound effect while the character is actually flying. The TK sound effect is used right before when Nathan is thrown into the room. If Sylar had been using TK, then that sound would have played, not the flying sound effect. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 01:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

::There, I removed "time and again". The point still stands. (For another example of sound ambiguity, there was some debate back at the beginning of Fugitives as to whether Sylar used puppet mastery to make Luke and his mom stop talking when he was torturing Agent Simmons; the same hand movement and sounds were used, but that did not mean Sylar had obtained puppet mastery and we haven't added it to his power list). Given that, I actually agree with you that Sylar has probably taken Flight, simply because if he doesn't demonstrate it now that he's "Nathan", he'll know something's wrong. However, there is enough evidence right now to support either side of the debate and, until an authority decides one way or the other, any decision is speculation. [[User:Pagemaster146|Pagemaster146]] ([[User talk:Pagemaster146|talk]]) 02:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

We don't really know the extent of Sylar's psychokinesis. In an earlier episode (I forget which one but it was in Season one when he attacked Molly Walker at FBI HQ) Sylar levitated. This may have been what he was showing. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.81.61.173|72.81.61.173]] ([[User talk:72.81.61.173|talk]]) 02:21, 30 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Are sound effects now being used as [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]? ~<font size="3" face="Calibri">[[User:QuasiAbstract|QuasiAbstract]]</font> {[[User talk:QuasiAbstract|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/QuasiAbstract|contrib]]} 16:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

== Flight revisited ==

Spoiler pictures have been shown of him flying. Does this count as evidence - http://mrtheodi.iimmgg.com/image/4c6cb7be542d8e32a5951b39667bfe4a - Or do we just wait until the episode happens to update the Wiki entry? I'll be waiting with my finger poised over the "save page" button with the edit in place. :P [[User:Faijer|Faijer]] ([[User talk:Faijer|talk]]) 21:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

:What is the context of that picture? That could be Nathan, for all we know. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 21:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

::Note two things. First, the date of the posting (on a site that is well-respected in the spoiler world, and only posts legitimate spoilers, or labels them as rumours if that is what they are) - http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.com/2009/09/new-set-pics-nathan-and-peter-in-flight.html - and second, that the set they are on, in combination with the clothing they are wearing, has not been seen on an earlier episode. Deductively speaking it is reasonable to therefore conclude that either it was a cut scene, which can be confirmed presumably by DVD extras from prior seasons (although conceivably there could be cut scenes that didn't even make it onto such a reel), or is from an as-yet unaired episode. Given the date, and the context if it being in the midst of season 4 spoilers, I am willing to go with the latter. [[User:Faijer|Faijer]] ([[User talk:Faijer|talk]]) 21:57, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::1. It's someone's blog website, so hardly a reliable source for Wikipedia. 2. The person is speculating that it is Sylar. Given Hiro's current storyline, it could easily be the actual Nathan. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 22:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::1. A blog is merely a format and should not be condemned by that virtue alone, and keep in mind that the blog in question is normally rife with interviews (and links to said interviews) and tidbits from sources on the inside. I'm sure the pictures could be obtained elsewhere if one looked hard enough, although I'm sure time will prove such things unnecessary. 2. Given other news, namely that Adrian Pasdar is leaving Heroes (http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/11/03/adrian-pasdar-next-project/), that Nathan is being axed once and for all (http://www.popcrunch.com/adrian-pasdar-leaving-heroes-series-killing-off-nathan-petrelli/), and that evil Sylar will be returning to his body, it seems unlikely that it is in fact Nathan (also, the Hiro story-line we have just seen does not seem to have retcon fever, and it seems reasonable to assume that the timeline is intact, with the exception of Charlie's survival - her power would not likely have played any real part in Sylar's downfall in season 1, and his nerfing in season 2 rules it out for consideration in the later parts of the show). [[User:Faijer|Faijer]] ([[User talk:Faijer|talk]]) 22:12, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:Judging by how the previous episode ended, there will be jumping around through time. Seeing as how Hiro's jump this time also showed what Noah was doing at that time, next week could show a time when Nathan was still alive. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 22:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Puppeteering ==

In Season 3 final episode "An Invisible Thread" it is clearly shown how Sylar manipulates Clair Bennets movements. While this could be argued to be only another facet of his TK I find it hard to believe he'd have Eric Doyle in his grasp and not take his power (Cold snap). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.247.51.55|71.247.51.55]] ([[User talk:71.247.51.55|talk]]) 18:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

The sound effects for the scene show that it is merely telekinesis. [[User:Ophois|Ophois]] ([[User talk:Ophois|talk]]) 18:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:Not only that, but there are several characters that have met Sylar and not had their powers stolen (Micah, Luke, and Sylar's dad being the most obvious examples). He doesn't kill absolutely everyone he comes across. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 15:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::After the training with Elle, Sylar know how to acquire powers without killing. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 16:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::But Wikipedia isn't supposed to host original speculation. Listing puppetry or flight after it's confirmed in a reliable source such as an interview, a commentary track or a statement by a character on the show would be okay. Mentioning speculation by established authorities in the field (such as television critics) may be okay as long as it is described as an interpretation rather than an established fact. Mentioning speculation by fans might also be acceptable if that speculation if it's adequately sourced and described as fan speculation, as is the case for the discredited fan thories mentioned in the [[Lost (TV series)|Lost article]]. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] ([[User talk:Gordon Ecker|talk]]) 23:20, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

What about Ali Larter appearing at the end? Every artical on here states that it is Tracy Strauss but it could just as easily be her sister Barbarra. Using your own arguement, that is speculation. I think it is Mr Doyles ability as it makes more sense conisdering the puppet power controlls every limb with ease and it would take a lot of skill in telekenesis to control each individual limb.[[User:Wild_ste|Wild_ste]] ([[User talk:Wild_ste|talk]]) 15:13, 12 May 2009 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/194.81.189.20|194.81.189.20]] ([[User talk:194.81.189.20|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I think the episode credits should be presumed to be trustworthy. Is she listed as playing Tracy Strauss in the credits? -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] ([[User talk:Gordon Ecker|talk]]) 03:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
: In season 1 Sylar uses TK to control the FBI agent's hand, causing her to draw her own gun and hold it to her temple while she is otherwise frozen. This does not seem overly different. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/159.53.78.141|159.53.78.141]] ([[User talk:159.53.78.141|talk]]) 15:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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I suspect that statement that "Prior to Quinto's first appearance in the episode "Seven Minutes to Midnight", the role of Sylar is played by stunt doubles" is inaccurate, as someone could only be Zachary Quinto's stunt double for heroes after Zachary Quinto had been cast for Heroes. If Sylar was consistently played by stunt men prior to ''Seven Minutes to Midnight'', the article should state he was played by stunt men. If he was played by a combination of stunt men and extras, it should state he was played by stunt men and extras. If he was played solely by extras, it should state that he was played by extras. If Sylar was consistently played by a specific actor's stunt double, it should say whose stunt double played him. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] ([[User talk:Gordon Ecker|talk]]) 03:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I suspect that statement that "Prior to Quinto's first appearance in the episode "Seven Minutes to Midnight", the role of Sylar is played by stunt doubles" is inaccurate, as someone could only be Zachary Quinto's stunt double for heroes after Zachary Quinto had been cast for Heroes. If Sylar was consistently played by stunt men prior to ''Seven Minutes to Midnight'', the article should state he was played by stunt men. If he was played by a combination of stunt men and extras, it should state he was played by stunt men and extras. If he was played solely by extras, it should state that he was played by extras. If Sylar was consistently played by a specific actor's stunt double, it should say whose stunt double played him. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker|Gordon Ecker]] ([[User talk:Gordon Ecker|talk]]) 03:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:The BuddyTV source says stunt doubles, so that's what we have to say. [[User:U-Mos|U-Mos]] ([[User talk:U-Mos|talk]]) 10:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
:The BuddyTV source says stunt doubles, so that's what we have to say. [[User:U-Mos|U-Mos]] ([[User talk:U-Mos|talk]]) 10:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


== note at the bottom ==

Why is there a note at the bottom saying Hiro travelled back in time (Once Upon a Time in Texas) to stop Sylar getting Claire's ability. 1)He travelled to save Charlie 2)He did not attempt to stop nor did he stop Sylar getting Claire's ability in fact he made a deal with sylar and let sylar continue to do the event in Homecoming hence this note is completely useless and needs to be removed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/188.221.146.251|188.221.146.251]] ([[User talk:188.221.146.251|talk]]) 20:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The note says Charlie, not Claire. [[User:Ophois|<span style="color:#AC2828">'''Ω'''</span>]][[User talk:Ophois|<span style="color:black">'''pho'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ophois|<span style="color:#AC2828">'''is'''</span>]] 21:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

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SPOILERS IN INTRO

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Why are there spoilers in the intro? I was quite annoyed to read a snippet of it (possible spoiler alert: basically, what happens to Sylar by the end). Can someone edit that? Basic sentence or two for such an unimportant article, anyway.

If you look up information on a topic don't be surprised to FIND INFORMATION ON THAT TOPIC. Wikipedia does not support spoilers. Padillah (talk) 14:13, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you; there shouldn't be spoilers in the introductory paragraph. It's fine for the rest of the article to contain information, but only the basic facts about Sylar should be mentioned in the beginning.

Article is FAR too long

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This article is dis-proportionally long for the 'importance' of the subject matter. A purging is in order... 72.218.136.173 (talk) 16:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

@72.218.136.173 14 years later it's still way too long 66.41.166.252 (talk) 08:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mrs. Gray

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I know she was disturbed and all, but why did Gabriel/Sylar keep on saying that his mother was a monster who tried to kill him. I thought it was an accident and all. (JoeLoeb (talk) 23:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Him killing her was an accident (although he now claims he meant to do it). She intended to kill him, though. Ophois (talk) 23:56, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I would be freaked out if my son was deranged and hurling snow globes around me. Gabriel probably says he meant to do it to make him seem more psychotic or to intimidate someone like Danko. (JoeLoeb (talk) 00:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Played by stunt doubles?

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I suspect that statement that "Prior to Quinto's first appearance in the episode "Seven Minutes to Midnight", the role of Sylar is played by stunt doubles" is inaccurate, as someone could only be Zachary Quinto's stunt double for heroes after Zachary Quinto had been cast for Heroes. If Sylar was consistently played by stunt men prior to Seven Minutes to Midnight, the article should state he was played by stunt men. If he was played by a combination of stunt men and extras, it should state he was played by stunt men and extras. If he was played solely by extras, it should state that he was played by extras. If Sylar was consistently played by a specific actor's stunt double, it should say whose stunt double played him. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The BuddyTV source says stunt doubles, so that's what we have to say. U-Mos (talk) 10:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


note at the bottom

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Why is there a note at the bottom saying Hiro travelled back in time (Once Upon a Time in Texas) to stop Sylar getting Claire's ability. 1)He travelled to save Charlie 2)He did not attempt to stop nor did he stop Sylar getting Claire's ability in fact he made a deal with sylar and let sylar continue to do the event in Homecoming hence this note is completely useless and needs to be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.146.251 (talk) 20:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The note says Charlie, not Claire. Ωphois 21:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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