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== Prejean breast implant controversy == |
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the fact that the pageant paid for her breast implants weeks before the pageant should be added to the page: |
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Why is there no mention of the sexually-oriented video that ended Prejean's lawsuits against pageant officials? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.185.225.247|70.185.225.247]] ([[User talk:70.185.225.247|talk]]) 04:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:It is mentioned at the bottom of the article. -- [[User:ArglebargleIV|ArglebargleIV]] ([[User talk:ArglebargleIV|talk]]) 04:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:Agreed, I added the following text, I would like to discuss here before re-adding it since it was deleted as "irrelevant" [[User:TharsHammar|TharsHammar]]<sup>'' [[Special:Contributions/TharsHammar|Bits]]''</sup> and<sup>''[[User_talk:TharsHammar#top|Pieces]]''</sup> 02:30, 2 May 2009 (UTC) |
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A few weeks prior to the Miss USA pageant, Prejean received free breast implants paid for by the Miss California pageant committee. The co-director of the Miss California pageant said "We assisted when Carrie came to us and voiced the interest in having the procedure done, we want to put her in the best possible confidence in order to present herself in the best possible light on a national stage."<ref>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/01/miss-californias-breast-i_n_194385.html</ref> |
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Does Carrie still believe in Christianity? I don't see this in this article anymore. [[User:WikiPro1981X|WikiPro1981X]] ([[User talk:WikiPro1981X|talk]]) 23:34, 29 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::It has a reliable source, so i see no reason for it not to be there. As having implants would have an impact on her career as a model and her personal life, it seems very relevant.[[User:Yobmod|<b><font color="#0000CD">Yob</font></b>]][[User talk:Yobmod|<b><font color="008000">Mod</font></b>]] 15:10, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::There is already a reference to the implants in the article. What more do you want?--[[User:InaMaka|InaMaka]] ([[User talk:InaMaka|talk]]) 15:31, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Besides except for a few people who are actually upset about Prejean's comments (maybe five people in the universe) most straight men find this fact to be a resume builder.--[[User:InaMaka|InaMaka]] ([[User talk:InaMaka|talk]]) 15:33, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Sex Tape Scandal == |
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This is, in part, why people don't trust Wikipedia - the most determined win. Every reference to the sex tape scandal (which was significant in her settlement and has a number of valid citations, not TMZ) gets deleted. Since it's probably half of why people have even heard of her, why is it continually removed? |
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Why is this not notable? [[User:The Squicks|The Squicks]] ([[User talk:The Squicks|talk]]) 19:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC) |
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⚫ | I'd wager that if she was ever noteworthy enough to appear in Britannica, they'd mention it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.237.201.126|98.237.201.126]] ([[User talk:98.237.201.126|talk]]) 21:25, 4 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:See below. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] ([[User talk:Exploding Boy|talk]]) 15:09, 3 May 2009 (UTC) |
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: It's mentioned on the [[Sex Tape]] page - I clicked the link to this page, and no mention of it ? - [[Special:Contributions/124.191.144.183|124.191.144.183]] ([[User talk:124.191.144.183|talk]]) 14:47, 9 December 2013 (UTC) |
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==Miss USA controversy== |
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==2007 CA pageant== |
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Let's try to keep this neutral and well sourced, people. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] ([[User talk:Exploding Boy|talk]]) 06:27, 3 May 2009 (UTC) |
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I fixed a dead link regarding her performance in the 2007 CA pageant. I couldn't find a credible source saying that she was originally 3rd runner up and then promoted to 1st runner up in 2007 CA pageant. They all look like sources that could have gotten that info from Wikipedia... So I had to change the text. Please fix it if you can find something... [[User:Tdferro|Tdferro]] ([[User talk:Tdferro|talk]]) 04:01, 22 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:That means things like the comments about Alan Duncan too: According to this source [http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/matthew-bell-the-iiosi-diary-1674262.html], Duncan made an offhand remark during the taping of a TV comedy show. He joked, |
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== Contract termination and Same-sex marriage == |
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<blockquote>"If you read that Miss California had been murdered you'll know it was me, won't you?" He later said "I'm sure she's very beautiful and that if we were to meet we would love each other. I have no plans to kill her."</blockquote> |
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Did her views on same-sex marriage have anything to do with her contract termination? The section mentions Trump talking about her views on it without giving any context, which makes it seem out of place. [[Special:Contributions/50.157.104.147|50.157.104.147]] ([[User talk:50.157.104.147|talk]]) 16:10, 9 January 2016 (UTC) |
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:This is akin to taking comments clearly intended as funny or satirical made on a show like, say, Saturday Night Live, and reporting them as news. It's inappropriate, unencyclopedic, and frankly, if reported as fact, bordering on slanderous. |
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:To make it absolutely clear: Alan Duncan did not threaten Carrie Prejean's life. He made an offhand remark on a TV comedy show trying to get a laugh. It's barely newsworthy, and it's certainly not encyclopedia-worthy. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] ([[User talk:Exploding Boy|talk]]) 15:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::::To make it absolutely clear: This is ONLY Exploding Boy's opinion. It is NOT fact. It is Duncan's only reason to ever be mentioned in the USA--it has made a name for his obscure self with the hate filled comments.--[[User:InaMaka|InaMaka]] ([[User talk:InaMaka|talk]]) 15:34, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::It's been reported in the U.S. that he was indeed making a serious statement, even if it was in the context of a comedy show. [[User:The Squicks|The Squicks]] ([[User talk:The Squicks|talk]]) 17:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::He was trying to be funny in the context of a comedy show. It was not a death threat, and it's being reported in this article as if it were. This stupid remark adds absolutely nothing to the article at all, besides confusion. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] ([[User talk:Exploding Boy|talk]]) 00:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC) |
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Hi, I'm asking you to discuss any proposed changes you would like to make to the Miss USA 2009 controversy section of the Carrie Prejean article on that article's talk page. There is a discussion already going on there that you should join. Please do not make wholesale reversions or reinsert questionable information without discussing first. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] ([[User talk:Exploding Boy|talk]]) 00:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:Nothing that I have inserted is questionable. Exploding Boy keeps removing the comments of Prejean and limiting the discussion of the Miss USA controversy to the obviously demented viewpoint of Hilton only. This article is about PREJEAN and she should be given an opportunity to respond to Hilton's negative, hate-mongering comments. Dear Exploring Boy, do not remove the fully reliably sourced, notable comments of Prejean about the controversy in which Projean is the main character. Otherwise the article biased.--[[User:InaMaka|InaMaka]] ([[User talk:InaMaka|talk]]) 01:46, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::I left the comment on your talk page to ensure you saw it and because it is directed at you. I'm still asking you to discuss proposed changes. |
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::I have not been removing Prejean's comments at all, but please be aware that there is no function of Wikipedia that allows it to be used as a forum for article subjects to respond to comments made about them. Our goal here is to provide '''relevant''', '''encyclopedic''' information '''neutrally'''. That means we give both sides equal space and make no judgements. This section is getting far too long as it is: it's threatening to take over the entire article, and most of it can probably be trimmed back considerably. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] ([[User talk:Exploding Boy|talk]]) 03:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I completely agree with InaMaka. EB please stop and remember NPOV. Thanks. [[User:CadenS|<b><font color="blue">'''Caden'''</font></b>]] [[User talk:CadenS|<font><sup><small>'''is cool'''</small></sup></font>]] 07:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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==Discussion on Miss USA 09== |
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Please join the discussion at [[Talk:Miss USA 2009#Merge "controversy" with Carrie Prejean article?]], where editors are trying to hash out a solution to the explosion of information on this incident that are taking over Wikipedia. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] ([[User talk:Exploding Boy|talk]]) 04:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== leaked nude pics is it fake or real? == |
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they are real and she's going to lose her crown over it. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RealTimeName|RealTimeName]] ([[User talk:RealTimeName|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RealTimeName|contribs]]) 16:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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A better question: will liberal Wikipedia editors treat these "topless" modeling photos differently than the way they treated Miley Cyrus' topless modeling photos. [[Special:Contributions/67.135.49.198|67.135.49.198]] ([[User talk:67.135.49.198|talk]]) 18:09, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:I don't think we will have 504 words of text for the incident, but it all depends on if Miss Prejean and her people address the issue or not. Please see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miley_Cyrus#Vanity_Fair_photos] for the Miley Cyrus stuff. [[User:TharsHammar|TharsHammar]]<sup>'' [[Special:Contributions/TharsHammar|Bits]]''</sup> and<sup>''[[User_talk:TharsHammar#top|Pieces]]''</sup> 19:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::I'm betting that making the section read: "The photo shows Prejean with her bare back exposed but her front covered with her arms" and "Though the pictures left an impression that she was bare-breasted, Prejean was facing away from the camera, using her arms to cover her front, and was actually not topless" will not fly here despite those sentences being lifted directly from Miley Cyrus' article and made to fit this one. [[Special:Contributions/67.135.49.198|67.135.49.198]] ([[User talk:67.135.49.198|talk]]) 04:39, 6 May 2009 (UTC) |
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==Remarks by Alan Duncan== |
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This section really does not belong in this article. As far as I can tell, she has never even responded to them; we don't need to include everything anyone has ever said about a person in the article about them, and his comments are discussed in his article already. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] ([[User talk:Exploding Boy|talk]]) 22:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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[edit]Why is there no mention of the sexually-oriented video that ended Prejean's lawsuits against pageant officials? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.185.225.247 (talk) 04:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- It is mentioned at the bottom of the article. -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 04:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Does Carrie still believe in Christianity? I don't see this in this article anymore. WikiPro1981X (talk) 23:34, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Sex Tape Scandal
[edit]This is, in part, why people don't trust Wikipedia - the most determined win. Every reference to the sex tape scandal (which was significant in her settlement and has a number of valid citations, not TMZ) gets deleted. Since it's probably half of why people have even heard of her, why is it continually removed?
I'd wager that if she was ever noteworthy enough to appear in Britannica, they'd mention it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.237.201.126 (talk) 21:25, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- It's mentioned on the Sex Tape page - I clicked the link to this page, and no mention of it ? - 124.191.144.183 (talk) 14:47, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
2007 CA pageant
[edit]I fixed a dead link regarding her performance in the 2007 CA pageant. I couldn't find a credible source saying that she was originally 3rd runner up and then promoted to 1st runner up in 2007 CA pageant. They all look like sources that could have gotten that info from Wikipedia... So I had to change the text. Please fix it if you can find something... Tdferro (talk) 04:01, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Contract termination and Same-sex marriage
[edit]Did her views on same-sex marriage have anything to do with her contract termination? The section mentions Trump talking about her views on it without giving any context, which makes it seem out of place. 50.157.104.147 (talk) 16:10, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
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