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== How about semi protect the article ? ==
== How about semi protect the article ? ==
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--DavisRam 06:48, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
--DavisRam 06:48, 8 March 2011 (UTC)


:Semi-protection is only advocated in order to prevent IP vandalism. Seeing as we have had no recent IP vandalism, it would be viewed as a barrier to the better expansion of the Tijuana article. [[User talk:08OceanBeach SD|<font color="#CD0000"><i>08OceanBeach</i></font><font color="#104E8B"><b><sup><i>S.D.</i></sup></b></font>]] 21:55, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
:Semi-protection is only advocated in order to prevent IP vandalism. Seeing as we have had no recent IP vandalism, it would be viewed as a barrier to the better expansion of the Tijuana article. [[User talk:08OceanBeach SD|<span style="color:#CD0000;"><i>08OceanBeach</i></span><span style="color:#104E8B;"><b><sup><i>S.D.</i></sup></b></span>]] 21:55, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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== crime ==
== crime ==
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The last paragraph of the crime section seems to be experiencing some disagreement. The linked source says homicides have returned to approximately the same levels as before 2007, but that crime is now under the control of Sinaloa instead of Felix. An anonymous editor replaced that with some boosterism, repeating a quote that already appeared in an earlier paragraph, so I restored the additional information from the same source. Then that got reverted, restoring the booster double-quote; the edit summary said "not supported by source" but the additional quote had been copied directly from the source, which is headlined, "Tijuana violence slows as one cartel takes control." I don't understand why anyone would want to understate the remaining crime level, and in any event the article should reflect what the sources say.[[User:TVC 15|TVC 15]] ([[User talk:TVC 15|talk]]) 17:50, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
The last paragraph of the crime section seems to be experiencing some disagreement. The linked source says homicides have returned to approximately the same levels as before 2007, but that crime is now under the control of Sinaloa instead of Felix. An anonymous editor replaced that with some boosterism, repeating a quote that already appeared in an earlier paragraph, so I restored the additional information from the same source. Then that got reverted, restoring the booster double-quote; the edit summary said "not supported by source" but the additional quote had been copied directly from the source, which is headlined, "Tijuana violence slows as one cartel takes control." I don't understand why anyone would want to understate the remaining crime level, and in any event the article should reflect what the sources say.[[User:TVC 15|TVC 15]] ([[User talk:TVC 15|talk]]) 17:50, 11 September 2011 (UTC)


:I slightly altered some text and fixed the citation format. I think the crime section reads well now. [[User talk:08OceanBeach SD|<font color="#CD0000"><i>08OceanBeach</i></font><font color="#104E8B"><b><sup><i>S.D.</i></sup></b></font>]] 21:17, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
:I slightly altered some text and fixed the citation format. I think the crime section reads well now. [[User talk:08OceanBeach SD|<span style="color:#CD0000;"><i>08OceanBeach</i></span><span style="color:#104E8B;"><b><sup><i>S.D.</i></sup></b></span>]] 21:17, 11 September 2011 (UTC)


::I've adjusted it somewhat further. 2011 is not over yet so we can't be sure what the final count will be. Already the 2011 homicide rate is higher than Oakland's, which is one of the 10 most dangerous cities in the USA. I would love to believe TJ has become "dramatically" safer, but the numbers describe a situation more like a tropical storm that became briefly a hurricane and then returned to being a tropical storm.[[User:TVC 15|TVC 15]] ([[User talk:TVC 15|talk]]) 23:53, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
::I've adjusted it somewhat further. 2011 is not over yet so we can't be sure what the final count will be. Already the 2011 homicide rate is higher than Oakland's, which is one of the 10 most dangerous cities in the USA. I would love to believe TJ has become "dramatically" safer, but the numbers describe a situation more like a tropical storm that became briefly a hurricane and then returned to being a tropical storm.[[User:TVC 15|TVC 15]] ([[User talk:TVC 15|talk]]) 23:53, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


:::I see no problem with the revision. Thank you for bringing your concerns to the talk page! Cordially, [[User talk:08OceanBeach SD|<font color="#CD0000"><i>08OceanBeach</i></font><font color="#104E8B"><b><sup><i>S.D.</i></sup></b></font>]] 02:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
:::I see no problem with the revision. Thank you for bringing your concerns to the talk page! Cordially, [[User talk:08OceanBeach SD|<span style="color:#CD0000;"><i>08OceanBeach</i></span><span style="color:#104E8B;"><b><sup><i>S.D.</i></sup></b></span>]] 02:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


== Welcome To Tijuana ==
== Welcome To Tijuana ==
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First paragraph of transportation section talks about Uber in the first paragraph, it reads very much like an ad and goes on to say that Uber "is recognized as one of the safest modes of public transport in Tijuana, as drivers must adhere to high standards of safety and customer service. In order to use." Only citation links lead to Uber.com. While it is interesting I think from a research standpoint to consider how a TNC like uber is received in Mexico (who uses it? where do they go? what are the challenges?) it seems strange to me to devote an entire paragraph about it - no mention of other similar services, and also no citations to back up the claim that it is "recognized as one of the safest modes of public transport" - also, Uber is by definition the opposite of public transit. What do you all think?
First paragraph of transportation section talks about Uber in the first paragraph, it reads very much like an ad and goes on to say that Uber "is recognized as one of the safest modes of public transport in Tijuana, as drivers must adhere to high standards of safety and customer service. In order to use." Only citation links lead to Uber.com. While it is interesting I think from a research standpoint to consider how a TNC like uber is received in Mexico (who uses it? where do they go? what are the challenges?) it seems strange to me to devote an entire paragraph about it - no mention of other similar services, and also no citations to back up the claim that it is "recognized as one of the safest modes of public transport" - also, Uber is by definition the opposite of public transit. What do you all think?
:If it looks like an ad, smells like an ad, and makes sounds of an ad, it is probably an ad. Should be removed, or at least mentioned in maximum a single row at the end of the paragraph. [[User:Elvenking|Elvenking]] ([[User talk:Elvenking|talk]]) 17:04, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


== [[Timeline of Tijuana]] ==
== [[Timeline of Tijuana]] ==
What is missing from the recently created [[Timeline of Tijuana|city timeline]] article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- [[User:M2545|M2545]] ([[User talk:M2545|talk]]) 13:50, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
What is missing from the recently created [[Timeline of Tijuana|city timeline]] article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- [[User:M2545|M2545]] ([[User talk:M2545|talk]]) 13:50, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

== Changes in transportation in Tijuana ==

Hello!
I was reading the article and I noticed that the transportation section is a little bit outdated in the public transit system subsection. A whole new system called SITT (Sistema Integral de Transporte Tijuana), translated as ''Tijuana Integral Transportation System'', it would be good to include it, it is almost finished. Also, it would be appropriate to include Uber's introduction to the city AND the controversies that it has brought to the administration of the previous transport (and what actually led to the creation of the SITT). <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.220.133.177|72.220.133.177]] ([[User talk:72.220.133.177|talk]]) 04:32, 24 August 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Population as of 2020 Census ==

The country's government published some results from its 2020 Census and Tijuana population is now 1,922,523. Link: https://www.inegi.org.mx/app/indicadores/?ag=02004, where one has to expand "Population" ("Poblacion") indicator to see total population. The Census, at least in its current version, also does not differentiate between "urban", "metro", etc

Current article lists population numbers from https://populationstat.com/mexico/tijuana, which looks like a random statistical aggregator. If it's a respectable site, it's still outdated.

Seems like the Mexican Census authority is a much better source for this information. As I am not a Wikipedia expert, I defer to those who are so I didn't make the edits. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Maratz|Maratz]] ([[User talk:Maratz#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Maratz|contribs]]) 17:43, 26 January 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Demographics and Diversity ==

The population has become more diverse and cosmopolitan than what the article would indicate (basically immigrants and expats from a few romance language speaking countries in Central America, the Caribean and western Europe... along with Lebanon and the USA.) The Koreans and the Chinese already have a strong presence in the city, and we shall see what becomes of other groups, such as Russians.

https://america.cgtn.com/2021/10/26/chinese-community-is-growing-in-tijuana-mexico
[[Special:Contributions/2603:6011:A400:259:3065:D186:D5EA:9CAF|2603:6011:A400:259:3065:D186:D5EA:9CAF]] ([[User talk:2603:6011:A400:259:3065:D186:D5EA:9CAF|talk]]) 22:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

== Monument to Cuauhtémoc ==

The Art section of this article includes a picture described as the [[Monument to Cuauhtémoc]], but that article is about a statue in Mexico City. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 02:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 06:20, 7 March 2024

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How about semi protect the article ?

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I think the article Tijuana should get semi protection in order to avoid misrelated or inexact information by IP users what do you guys think? --DavisRam 06:48, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protection is only advocated in order to prevent IP vandalism. Seeing as we have had no recent IP vandalism, it would be viewed as a barrier to the better expansion of the Tijuana article. 08OceanBeachS.D. 21:55, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

crime

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The last paragraph of the crime section seems to be experiencing some disagreement. The linked source says homicides have returned to approximately the same levels as before 2007, but that crime is now under the control of Sinaloa instead of Felix. An anonymous editor replaced that with some boosterism, repeating a quote that already appeared in an earlier paragraph, so I restored the additional information from the same source. Then that got reverted, restoring the booster double-quote; the edit summary said "not supported by source" but the additional quote had been copied directly from the source, which is headlined, "Tijuana violence slows as one cartel takes control." I don't understand why anyone would want to understate the remaining crime level, and in any event the article should reflect what the sources say.TVC 15 (talk) 17:50, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I slightly altered some text and fixed the citation format. I think the crime section reads well now. 08OceanBeachS.D. 21:17, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've adjusted it somewhat further. 2011 is not over yet so we can't be sure what the final count will be. Already the 2011 homicide rate is higher than Oakland's, which is one of the 10 most dangerous cities in the USA. I would love to believe TJ has become "dramatically" safer, but the numbers describe a situation more like a tropical storm that became briefly a hurricane and then returned to being a tropical storm.TVC 15 (talk) 23:53, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see no problem with the revision. Thank you for bringing your concerns to the talk page! Cordially, 08OceanBeachS.D. 02:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome To Tijuana

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No mention of the song Welcome To Tijuana by Manu Chao?

Yes, this is a mistake. Especially as in many places around the world, some people even think that "Welcome to Tijuana, Tequila, Sexo, Marijuana" is a semi official (at least) catch phrase used by the city. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.253.105.56 (talk) 23:54, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

History

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One sentence needs to be straightened up. In 1925, the city attempted to shed its negative image of hedonism and lawlessness created by American mob empresarios by renaming itself Zaragoza, but its name soon reverted to Tijuana. (1) Although the town (not the city, which was Ensenada) did attempt to rename itself Zaragoza in 1925, its motive as given needs citation. In fact, the original name of the town was Zaragoza, as shown in the surveyor's design of 1889. (2) The author of the phrase "American mob empresarios" ought to be asked to clarify it with citation. "Empresario" is Spanish, not English, and means businessman, manager, director, and impresario (theater producer). Failing a revision by the original author, David Piñera's interpretation (from Tijuana en la historia (2006) might be used instead. Jorgeserranolimon (talk) 02:25, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Transportation in Tijuana - Uber

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First paragraph of transportation section talks about Uber in the first paragraph, it reads very much like an ad and goes on to say that Uber "is recognized as one of the safest modes of public transport in Tijuana, as drivers must adhere to high standards of safety and customer service. In order to use." Only citation links lead to Uber.com. While it is interesting I think from a research standpoint to consider how a TNC like uber is received in Mexico (who uses it? where do they go? what are the challenges?) it seems strange to me to devote an entire paragraph about it - no mention of other similar services, and also no citations to back up the claim that it is "recognized as one of the safest modes of public transport" - also, Uber is by definition the opposite of public transit. What do you all think?

If it looks like an ad, smells like an ad, and makes sounds of an ad, it is probably an ad. Should be removed, or at least mentioned in maximum a single row at the end of the paragraph. Elvenking (talk) 17:04, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 13:50, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Changes in transportation in Tijuana

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Hello! I was reading the article and I noticed that the transportation section is a little bit outdated in the public transit system subsection. A whole new system called SITT (Sistema Integral de Transporte Tijuana), translated as Tijuana Integral Transportation System, it would be good to include it, it is almost finished. Also, it would be appropriate to include Uber's introduction to the city AND the controversies that it has brought to the administration of the previous transport (and what actually led to the creation of the SITT). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.133.177 (talk) 04:32, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Population as of 2020 Census

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The country's government published some results from its 2020 Census and Tijuana population is now 1,922,523. Link: https://www.inegi.org.mx/app/indicadores/?ag=02004, where one has to expand "Population" ("Poblacion") indicator to see total population. The Census, at least in its current version, also does not differentiate between "urban", "metro", etc

Current article lists population numbers from https://populationstat.com/mexico/tijuana, which looks like a random statistical aggregator. If it's a respectable site, it's still outdated.

Seems like the Mexican Census authority is a much better source for this information. As I am not a Wikipedia expert, I defer to those who are so I didn't make the edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maratz (talkcontribs) 17:43, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics and Diversity

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The population has become more diverse and cosmopolitan than what the article would indicate (basically immigrants and expats from a few romance language speaking countries in Central America, the Caribean and western Europe... along with Lebanon and the USA.) The Koreans and the Chinese already have a strong presence in the city, and we shall see what becomes of other groups, such as Russians.

https://america.cgtn.com/2021/10/26/chinese-community-is-growing-in-tijuana-mexico 2603:6011:A400:259:3065:D186:D5EA:9CAF (talk) 22:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Monument to Cuauhtémoc

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The Art section of this article includes a picture described as the Monument to Cuauhtémoc, but that article is about a statue in Mexico City. Thryduulf (talk) 02:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]