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Wanted to add to family tree

I noted that Henrietta_Maria_of_France which exists on wikipedia is the daughter of Marie de' Medici (1573 – 1642), wife of Henry IV of France, so I wanted to add that into the family tree, so immediately exposing the fact the the Medici penetrated English Royal Family. So by modern Genetic Standards A Medici became the King of England!!

Giovanni di Bicci de' Medici (1360 – 1429)

Lorenzo de' Medici (the Elder) (1395 – 1440)

Pierfrancesco de' Medici (the Elder) (1431 – 1476)

Giovanni the Popolano (1467 – 1498)

Lodovico de' Medici (Giovanni dalle Bande Nere) (1498 – 1526), the most famous soldier of all the Medici

Cosimo I de' Medici (1519 – 1574), Grand duke of Tuscany

Francesco I de' Medici (1541 – 1587), Grand duke of Tuscany

Marie de' Medici (1573 – 1642), wife of Henry IV of France

Henrietta_Maria_of_France, wife of Charles_I_of_England

Charles_II_of_England Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Grandson of Giovanni di Bicci de' Medici (1360 – 1429)

├─Francesco I de' Medici (1541 – 1587), Grand duke of Tuscany
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│ ├─Eleonora de' Medici (1566 – 1611), wife of Vincenzo I Gonzaga, duke of Mantua
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│ ├─Romola de' Medici (1568 – 1568)
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│ ├─Anna de' Medici (1569 – 1584)
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│ ├─Isabella de' Medici (1571 – 1572)
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│ ├─Lucrezia de' Medici (1572 – 1574)
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│ ├─Marie de' Medici (1573 – 1642), wife of Henry IV of France
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│ │ └─Henrietta_Maria_of_France, wife of Charles_I_of_England
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│ │ └─Charles_II_of_England
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│ ├─Antonio de' Medici (1576 – 1621), adopted
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│ └─Filippo de' Medici (1577 – 1582)

This could definitely be valuable information --Saigen98 (talk) 18:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Emílio Garrastazu Médici

Can Emílio Garrastazu Médici be included in this article? 2804:431:C7C5:227E:A02E:DCD0:24A2:C8ED (talk) 21:19, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. No connection is mentioned in his article, and the Florentine Medicis died out in the 18th century. Johnbod (talk) 21:50, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Caption of Blood Orange Photo

I don't know how to make this change, but the grammar is quite wrong here. "Here seen sliced in half" would apply to the phrase "an art historian" which follows it! The art historian is not seen sliced in half. Perhaps "An art historian suggests that the blood orange, here seen sliced in half, could be the imagery used in the Medici coat of arms."2601:5CC:C900:345:5C33:9337:BD48:8EC9 (talk) 23:25, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reference in past tense

Why are the references to the family line in the past tense? The house of medici is still alive today. Lorenzo de Medici survives the family line as of today. Chefs-kiss (talk) 20:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Referening The Jews ==
-I do not like references to Jews in this page. I think it detracts from the subject matter and belongs in a seperate article relating to neurosis of the Jews.
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  │ └─Filippo de' Medici (1577 – 1582)
+:This could definitely be valuable information --[[User:Saigen98|Saigen98]] ([[User talk:Saigen98|talk]]) 18:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
+== Emílio Garrastazu Médici ==
+Can [[Emílio Garrastazu Médici]] be included in this article? [[Special:Contributions/2804:431:C7C5:227E:A02E:DCD0:24A2:C8ED|2804:431:C7C5:227E:A02E:DCD0:24A2:C8ED]] ([[User talk:2804:431:C7C5:227E:A02E:DCD0:24A2:C8ED|talk]]) 21:19, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
-== Designation and details ==
+:No. No connection is mentioned in his article, and the Florentine Medicis died out in the 18th century. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 21:50, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
-I [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=House_of_Medici&diff=459657082&oldid=459127170 removed] the section entitled "Designation and details". It was tagged for being empty in July 2009. Since there has been no attempt to fill in that section, there didn't seem much point in keeping it in the article. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 17:28, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
-== Requested move of several article titles ==
+== Caption of Blood Orange Photo ==
+I don't know how to make this change, but the grammar is quite wrong here.  "Here seen sliced in half" would apply to the phrase "an art historian" which follows it!  The art historian is not seen sliced in half.  Perhaps "An art historian suggests that the blood orange, here seen sliced in half, could be the imagery used in the Medici coat of arms."[[Special:Contributions/2601:5CC:C900:345:5C33:9337:BD48:8EC9|2601:5CC:C900:345:5C33:9337:BD48:8EC9]] ([[User talk:2601:5CC:C900:345:5C33:9337:BD48:8EC9|talk]]) 23:25, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
-Hello. I have undertaken a requested move proposal for the article titles of some of the members of the Medici family. I have focused on ten of them (most of which use dates as disambiguation), proposing more conventional naming disambigation that avoids dates.  The RM and discussion is to proceed at [[Talk: Lorenzo de' Medici (1463–1503)#Requested move]].  Editors interested in the Medici should visit that discussion and voice their opinion on the proposed changes.  Thank you. [[User:Walrasiad|Walrasiad]] ([[User talk:Walrasiad|talk]]) 11:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
-== Deletion reference to persection of jews ==
+== Reference in past tense ==
-Evidence of persecution is highly speculative and is not relevant to the subject matter.<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User: 60.241.11.51| 60.241.11.51]] ([[User talk: 60.241.11.51|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 60.241.11.51|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
-:I fail to see how this is "not relevant to the subject matter". Can you explain? Also, can you provide a source to support your claim that "evidence of persecution is highly speculative"? The given reference, Acton's book ''The Last Medici'' is pretty clear: "[Cosimo]'s theological humour found another vent in persecuting the Jews." (p. 140) [[User:GabrielF|GabrielF]] ([[User talk:GabrielF|talk]]) 16:26, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
+Why are the references to the family line in the past tense? The house of medici is still alive today. Lorenzo de Medici survives the family line as of today. [[User:Chefs-kiss|Chefs-kiss]] ([[User talk:Chefs-kiss|talk]]) 20:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
-There are many pages relating to Jewish persecution on wikipedia, none referencing the issue nor history considering it a persecution of jews,researching the Medici should not provide route to the issue.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/60.241.11.51|60.241.11.51]] ([[User talk:60.241.11.51|talk]]) 15:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->