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extremely important neighborhood in pittsburgh's cultural history |
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==Material needing citations/verification== |
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===Fried chicken joint=== |
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From the 1960s to 1982 the Pirates' [[Baseball Hall of Fame|Hall of famer]] [[Willie Stargell]] owned a fried chicken store on the Hill. Patrons would receive free chicken if they were in the store at the time Stargell hit a home run. Pirates' radio announcer [[Bob Prince]] coined the phrase ''"Spread some chicken on the Hill with [[Bob Prince#Gunnerisms|Will]]."'' |
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==history== |
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While I am not at all qualified to do such, it is also my understanding that the hill district was historically one of the most important centers of african-american culture in the united states. It would be great if someone with adequate knowledge in that field could expand this article and include some of the history of the hill district. [[User:Tombride|Tombride]] 22:21, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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==New stadium== |
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This article badly needs a section on the new hockey stadium going into Crawford-Roberts. It's all over the place in local and national news and one of the biggest contemporary issues in the Hill District. <span style="font-size: 10px">— [[User:Brighterorange|<span style="padding : 0px 1px 1px 1px; border : 1px solid #FFE7B0; background: #FFFFFF ; color: #FF9600">brighterorange</span>]] ([[User_talk:Brighterorange|talk]])</span> 14:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC) |
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==What is a "community?"== |
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The Hill District is a part of the City of Pittsburgh. It is not fitting to refer to it as being a "community with an African American majority population." It is simply another one of the neighborhoods of [[Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania]]. [[User:HeyYallYo|HeyYallYo]] 02:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC) |
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All of Pittsburgh's neighborhoods are communities; that is what makes this city great. |
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--[[User:Absolute Relativity|Absolute Relativity]] 01:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC) |
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==Resolved issues== |
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I didn't want to remove these sections until the article is more fully developed. [[User:Aolivex|Aolivex]] ([[User talk:Aolivex|talk]]) 20:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC) |
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===Epithet: "crossroads of the world"=== |
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An earlier version of this article attributed the phrase to [[Harlem Renaissance]] poet [[Claude McKay]], but I could find no source for this claim. In a dissertation on Hill District Jazz, Colter Harper attributes the phrase to DJ Mary Dee, saying that she "popularized" it in the early 1950s. For accuracy's sake, recommend deleting reference to McKay until research reveals the phrase's longer history.[[Special:Contributions/71.16.36.150|71.16.36.150]] ([[User talk:71.16.36.150|talk]]) 18:52, 12 August 2015 (UTC) |
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===Neighborhoods=== |
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I'm redirecting the pages of the individual neighborhoods to the main Hill article. I listed them as bullets, as I don't know enough about the area to detail the nuances of the individual neighborhoods. I suggest someone with this knowledge change the bullets to subheadings and expand, but I don't see that happening soon, as Comcast won't go to the Hill, thus most residents don't have internet access. [[User:Carboneyes|Carboneyes]] 05:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC) |
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===Very unclear paragraph=== |
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This paragraph makes no sense, can someone with knowledge of what it was supposed to say fix it? |
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''Prior to 1930, the Hill District was inhabited by a diverse mix of residents, among them generations of Irish and Jewish immigrants. However, conditions in the area not being much better (due to activities by one of the most dedicated units of the Ku Klux Klan), they retreated to the Hill District and established small businesses such as barbershops.'' Who retreated? I'm assuming Irish/Jewish immigrants left the Hill? Anyone? [[User:Talldean|Dean]] ([[User talk:Talldean|talk]]) 20:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC) |
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:The Hill District was Irish and Jewish, then became a Black neighborhood. When I can find my copy of ''Pittsburgh, An Urban Portrait'' I'll update and correct the history section. [[User:Squamate|Squamate]] ([[User talk:Squamate|talk]]) 18:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC) |
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::This paragraph has been removed. I will add detail to the historical migration of various populations. [[User:Aolivex|Aolivex]] ([[User talk:Aolivex|talk]]) 20:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC) |
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==re Gazzam== |
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Terrace Hill was built in part on what was known as "Gazzam Hill", what used to be the country estate of the Gazzam family. The Gazzams were prominent in early Pittsburgh. There is still a Gazzam Street nearby. See, for instance Oliver Evans, "The Murphys of Market Street, 1785-1826", Oliver Evans, Western Pennsylvania Historical Magazine, July 1964, p. 256, note 14. [[User:Brianyoumans|Brianyoumans]] ([[User talk:Brianyoumans|talk]]) 15:16, 23 November 2022 (UTC) |
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[edit]Fried chicken joint
[edit]From the 1960s to 1982 the Pirates' Hall of famer Willie Stargell owned a fried chicken store on the Hill. Patrons would receive free chicken if they were in the store at the time Stargell hit a home run. Pirates' radio announcer Bob Prince coined the phrase "Spread some chicken on the Hill with Will."
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[edit]While I am not at all qualified to do such, it is also my understanding that the hill district was historically one of the most important centers of african-american culture in the united states. It would be great if someone with adequate knowledge in that field could expand this article and include some of the history of the hill district. Tombride 22:21, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
New stadium
[edit]This article badly needs a section on the new hockey stadium going into Crawford-Roberts. It's all over the place in local and national news and one of the biggest contemporary issues in the Hill District. — brighterorange (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
What is a "community?"
[edit]The Hill District is a part of the City of Pittsburgh. It is not fitting to refer to it as being a "community with an African American majority population." It is simply another one of the neighborhoods of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. HeyYallYo 02:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
All of Pittsburgh's neighborhoods are communities; that is what makes this city great. --Absolute Relativity 01:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Resolved issues
[edit]I didn't want to remove these sections until the article is more fully developed. Aolivex (talk) 20:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Epithet: "crossroads of the world"
[edit]An earlier version of this article attributed the phrase to Harlem Renaissance poet Claude McKay, but I could find no source for this claim. In a dissertation on Hill District Jazz, Colter Harper attributes the phrase to DJ Mary Dee, saying that she "popularized" it in the early 1950s. For accuracy's sake, recommend deleting reference to McKay until research reveals the phrase's longer history.71.16.36.150 (talk) 18:52, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Neighborhoods
[edit]I'm redirecting the pages of the individual neighborhoods to the main Hill article. I listed them as bullets, as I don't know enough about the area to detail the nuances of the individual neighborhoods. I suggest someone with this knowledge change the bullets to subheadings and expand, but I don't see that happening soon, as Comcast won't go to the Hill, thus most residents don't have internet access. Carboneyes 05:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Very unclear paragraph
[edit]This paragraph makes no sense, can someone with knowledge of what it was supposed to say fix it?
Prior to 1930, the Hill District was inhabited by a diverse mix of residents, among them generations of Irish and Jewish immigrants. However, conditions in the area not being much better (due to activities by one of the most dedicated units of the Ku Klux Klan), they retreated to the Hill District and established small businesses such as barbershops. Who retreated? I'm assuming Irish/Jewish immigrants left the Hill? Anyone? Dean (talk) 20:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- The Hill District was Irish and Jewish, then became a Black neighborhood. When I can find my copy of Pittsburgh, An Urban Portrait I'll update and correct the history section. Squamate (talk) 18:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
- This paragraph has been removed. I will add detail to the historical migration of various populations. Aolivex (talk) 20:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
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re Gazzam
[edit]Terrace Hill was built in part on what was known as "Gazzam Hill", what used to be the country estate of the Gazzam family. The Gazzams were prominent in early Pittsburgh. There is still a Gazzam Street nearby. See, for instance Oliver Evans, "The Murphys of Market Street, 1785-1826", Oliver Evans, Western Pennsylvania Historical Magazine, July 1964, p. 256, note 14. Brianyoumans (talk) 15:16, 23 November 2022 (UTC)