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== Origin is not Seoul, it’s China ==
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Please update his origin. He’s not Korean or from Korea. Canadian Chinese from China [[Special:Contributions/199.188.194.158|199.188.194.158]] ([[User talk:199.188.194.158|talk]]) 06:41, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> The &ldquo;Origin&rdquo; field specifically refers to the start of his career as a celebrity, not where he is born. Kris Wu specifically debuted as a member of a K-POP group, hence his origin of Seoul, South Korea. [[User:NasssaNser|NasssaNser]]<sub>[[User talk:NasssaNser|talk]]</sub> 08:05, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
== Naming ==


== There some wrong information he's accused by wrong and not serial raper ==
What's the reason for this article title? He is known by his stage name, which is Kris Wu. Either this or Wu Yi-fan (with a hyphen, according to spelling rules for transliteration from Chinese). What is the reason for the mixed naming? [[User:Teemeah|<b>Teemeah</b>]] [[User talk:Teemeah|<sup>편지 (letter)</sup>]] 07:37, 11 July 2014 (UTC)


Wrong [[User:Gullaganm|Gullaganm]] ([[User talk:Gullaganm|talk]]) 18:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
:It looks like Hong Kong English. "ENGLISHname Surname CHINESEname" so probably from the Cantopop; Canadian Chinese would make it "Kris Yi Fan Wu" but it'd be "Kevin Jiaheng Li" then, as this is his stagename and not his Canadian one. -- [[Special:Contributions/65.94.171.126|65.94.171.126]] ([[User talk:65.94.171.126|talk]]) 04:51, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


:Kris Wu was convicted of sexually assaulting three women in his home from November to December 2020.
::His stage name is Kris, at the moment. Unless he switches to using his real name in the future. The article title would still be improper by Wikipedia rules. Either the stage name, or the real name, but not mixing up several versions. We will see what name he uses when his movie comes out. [[User:Teemeah|<b>Teemeah</b>]] [[User talk:Teemeah|<sup>편지 (letter)</sup>]] 15:02, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
:His second charge was group promiscuity, which means he played threesome in his home on July 1, 2018.
:Given the verdict, it is utterly inappropriate to call someone a serial raper.
The title serial raper should be cancelled. [[User:Rita Colmar|Rita Colmar]] ([[User talk:Rita Colmar|talk]]) 12:21, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


:If Kris had raped three women between Nov to December 2020 then he is a serial rapist. As serial rapist means multiple victims. Being convicted of it, makes him a convicted serial rapist so the edit seems acceptable. [[Special:Contributions/103.210.125.52|103.210.125.52]] ([[User talk:103.210.125.52|talk]]) 23:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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::The a[[The appeal trial is still in progress. Unless you knew that the final verdict will remain unchanged wouldn't it be too early to add this comment ?|The appeal trial is still in progress. Unless you knew that the final verdict will remain unchanged wouldn't it be too early to add this comment ? d]] [[User:Rita Colmar|Rita Colmar]] ([[User talk:Rita Colmar|talk]]) 03:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2023 ==
The result of the move request was: '''moved'''. Old history preserved at {{noredirect|Wu Yifan}}. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 07:06, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


{{Edit semi-protected|Kris Wu|answered=yes}}
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In the chapter titled (Endorsements and ambassadorship). Add a paragraph that says, (''In 2021, over a dozen brands, including Bulgari, Lancôme, Louis Vuitton and Porsche, had immediately ended ties with him after he was detained for the rape allegations.'') Thanks in advance. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/25/canadian-pop-star-kris-wu-sentenced-13-years-jail-rape-china [[Special:Contributions/103.210.125.52|103.210.125.52]] ([[User talk:103.210.125.52|talk]]) 23:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> I very slightly reworded the end of the request to say "{{tq|... after '''his detainment for rape allegations'''}}" as usage of "'''''the''''' rape allegations" felt out of place. —[[User:Sirdog|<span style="color:#058700">'''Sirdog'''</span> ]]([[User talk:Sirdog|talk]]) 04:08, 21 October 2023 (UTC)


== Date format consistency across multiple articles ==


Currently this article is using dmy date format, which was changed (with no contest apparently) in 2020 from the previous format of mdy that was set in 2016 by a now blocked sock master ([[Special:Diff/962496949]]). The article is now consistent on dmy dates.
[[:Kris Wu Yifan]] → {{no redirect|Kris Wu}} – [[WP:UCN]], exo-m.smtown.com, he is simply referred to as Kris. [[User:Teemeah|<b>Teemeah</b>]] [[User talk:Teemeah|<sup>편지 (letter)</sup>]] 07:48, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. It's improper naming, combining two names. --[[User:Cold Season|Cold Season]] ([[User talk:Cold Season|talk]]) 17:42, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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There are two related article articles:
== Golden Broom Awards ==
* [[Kris Wu discography]]
* [[Kris Wu rape case]]
Which both are using mdy date format.


Personally, I think all three articles should use the same date format given that these are highly related, and it would be better for readers reading all of these articles to have a standardised format. [https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Kris_Wu_rape_case Wikinav] shows that there is a significant number of clickthroughs from this article here to the rape case article.
There have been consistent edits adding the "Golden Broom Awards" on the "Awards" section of this article.


There are three options:
Wikipedia aims to provide accurate information that are well-sourced. The "Golden Broom Awards" is organized by one man named Cheng Qingsong, a self-proclaimed critic who releases a web "magazine" called the Youth Film Handbook. The Youth Film Handbook is not a published magazine nor does it have readership, their weibo page<ref>http://weibo.com/u/6082115055</ref> has 900 followers with 1 like per post or none at all. The only reason this award gets attention is because Chen Qingsong makes sure to attack popular celebrities. Giving this award any credibility is akin to including comments from a random blogger or twitter troll on a Wikipedia article. Donnie Yen received this "award" and you won't see it on his Wiki page. There is 0 reason to include it on Kris Wu's page unless the intention was malicious. Adding negative content to slander someone's name isn't what Wikipedia represents.
# standardise all to dmy format
#:This effectively acknowledges the 2020 change, and change the date format on the two articles above
# standardise all to mdy format
#:This effectively reverse the 2020 change.
# do nothing


I am of the opinion that this should not be added to this article. I hope a consensus is reached. [[User:Everypart|Everypart]] ([[User talk:Everypart|talk]]) 11:14, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
I seek opinion from everyone who's interested. Thanks! [[User:Robertsky|– robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky|talk]]) 04:32, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


* Support changing this article back to MDY to be consistent with the closely related articles. There's not a {{em|rule}} that such consistency must happen, but it makes good [[WP:COMMONSENSE]] in a case like this of a trio of closely-related articles that readers are apt to skip back-and-forth between. That the artcle was changed to DMY without consensus and by a sock is a point in favor of the change back to MDY, though not a strong one, because a rather significant amount of time has passed after that change and [[WP:EDITCON]] is thus a consideration (and we don't just blindly undo everything ever done by someone who turned out to be a sock). But its prefectly reasonable for a consensus to come to a preference for MDY in this case, since either format used is kind of arbitrary for this subject, while consistency between the three articles is at least a minor benefit, at no cost to anyone other than a quick date conversion on one page. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 04:23, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
* Two points here. One, this is not a "random blogger or twitter troll". The [[Youth Film Handbook]] has its own Wikipedia article, where the awards are covered (and sourced in reliable sources). If you Google "Golden Broom awards" you will see coverage in reliable sources, not only major Chinese sources but also from countries outside China [http://www.sbs.com.au/popasia/blog/2017/03/23/kris-wu-voted-most-disappointing-actor-8th-golden-broom-awards Australia] [https://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2015/01/23/shameless-uncreative-dreadful-chinese-movies-vie-to-be-the-worst-in-competition/ USA], in books [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cQl4DQAAQBAJ&pg=PT237&lpg=PT237&dq=Golden+Broom+Awards+China&source=bl&ots=cltL_zRMni&sig=d5W30vRhBs9UvKwJKsektDTu7CI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbqceOqZ_VAhUiAcAKHYdVANI4ChDoAQg_MAU#v=onepage&q=Golden%20Broom%20Awards%20China&f=false], and so on. Secondly, compare the [[Golden Raspberry Awards]], the US equivalent; if you look at articles like [[Halle Berry]] and [[List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Sandra_Bullock#Golden_Raspberry_.28Razzie.29_Awards|Sandra Bullock]] you will see those "awards" listed in exactly the same way. We do not remove reliably sourced and covered information ''purely'' because it is not positive to the person concerned. [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 11:47, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
*:Date format of article changed to MDY per [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kris_Wu&diff=prev&oldid=1188865839 this diff] using script. [[User:Justanothersgwikieditor|JASWE]] ([[User talk:Justanothersgwikieditor|talk]]) 04:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

First of all, SBS Pop Asia is not a reliable source. I'm not sure why you added them. Second of all, Youth Film Handbook having its own Wikipedia page just shows that whoever made that page does not actually know that it barely exists as an actual magazine and is only used by the "editor" as a front to his "Golden Broom Awards". If you know Chinese then you can search around and see that the magazine isn't published and has no readership. Check their social media. And yes, they are a random blogger. His controversial awards getting attention does not make him a credible source. He is not a professional and has no background or experience in film.

Controversy sells in Chinese media. If you check the Chinese articles, they all are written the same way and copy pasted because they all ultimately have one source. Those English articles take their cues from Chinese articles. Do you not notice that there is one person and one person alone mentioned in all these articles? It's because this all came from one guy. Here's an article about its lack of credibility. [https://www.pressreader.com/china/china-daily/20110228/282179352580508]

If Perez Hilton held his own awards show, would you find it credible? The guy behind the Golden Broom Awards is using celebrities to boost his own profile. I would hope Wikipedia would be above childish slander. [[User:Everypart|Everypart]] ([[User talk:Everypart|talk]]) 12:37, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
* Wikipedia works on reliable sources. SBS ([[Special Broadcasting Service]]) is, indeed, a reliable source. The awards are covered in reliable sources, as I've just pointed out. The Youth Film Handbook has an article because ... it is covered in reliable sources. I'm unsure how you're not getting this concept. The fact that you don't like that particular award is , I'm afraid, covered by [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT]]. [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 15:18, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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== Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2018 ==

{{edit semi-protected|Kris Wu|answered=yes}}
[[User:Youngae123|Youngae123]] ([[User talk:Youngae123|talk]]) 17:30, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Religion:the galaxy
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:L293D|<b style="color:#060">L293D</b>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:L293D#top|<b style="color:#000">☎</b>]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/L293D|<b style="color:#000">✎</b>]])</span> 17:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2021 ==

{{edit semi-protected|Kris Wu|answered=yes}}
I want to add 'rapper' after the words 'Chinese Canadian actor' as well as in the occupation [[User:Nathanlong3010|Nathanlong3010]] ([[User talk:Nathanlong3010|talk]]) 01:10, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 01:15, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

== Origin is not Seoul, it’s China ==
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Please update his origin. He’s not Korean or from Korea. Canadian Chinese from China [[Special:Contributions/199.188.194.158|199.188.194.158]] ([[User talk:199.188.194.158|talk]]) 06:41, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> The &ldquo;Origin&rdquo; field specifically refers to the start of his career as a celebrity, not where he is born. Kris Wu specifically debuted as a member of a K-POP group, hence his origin of Seoul, South Korea. [[User:NasssaNser|NasssaNser]]<sub>[[User talk:NasssaNser|talk]]</sub> 08:05, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

== There some wrong information he's accused by wrong and not serial raper ==

Wrong [[User:Gullaganm|Gullaganm]] ([[User talk:Gullaganm|talk]]) 18:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

:Kris Wu was convicted of sexually assaulting three women in his home from November to December 2020.
:His second charge was group promiscuity, which means he played threesome in his home on July 1, 2018.
:Given the verdict, it is utterly inappropriate to call someone a serial raper.
The title serial raper should be cancelled. [[User:Rita Colmar|Rita Colmar]] ([[User talk:Rita Colmar|talk]]) 12:21, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 03:53, 10 March 2024

Origin is not Seoul, it’s China

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Please update his origin. He’s not Korean or from Korea. Canadian Chinese from China 199.188.194.158 (talk) 06:41, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The “Origin” field specifically refers to the start of his career as a celebrity, not where he is born. Kris Wu specifically debuted as a member of a K-POP group, hence his origin of Seoul, South Korea. NasssaNsertalk 08:05, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There some wrong information he's accused by wrong and not serial raper

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Wrong Gullaganm (talk) 18:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kris Wu was convicted of sexually assaulting three women in his home from November to December 2020.
His second charge was group promiscuity, which means he played threesome in his home on July 1, 2018.
Given the verdict, it is utterly inappropriate to call someone a serial raper.

The title serial raper should be cancelled. Rita Colmar (talk) 12:21, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If Kris had raped three women between Nov to December 2020 then he is a serial rapist. As serial rapist means multiple victims. Being convicted of it, makes him a convicted serial rapist so the edit seems acceptable. 103.210.125.52 (talk) 23:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your explanation. 58.153.62.238 (talk) 00:53, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The aThe appeal trial is still in progress. Unless you knew that the final verdict will remain unchanged wouldn't it be too early to add this comment ? d Rita Colmar (talk) 03:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2023

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In the chapter titled (Endorsements and ambassadorship). Add a paragraph that says, (In 2021, over a dozen brands, including Bulgari, Lancôme, Louis Vuitton and Porsche, had immediately ended ties with him after he was detained for the rape allegations.) Thanks in advance. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/25/canadian-pop-star-kris-wu-sentenced-13-years-jail-rape-china 103.210.125.52 (talk) 23:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I very slightly reworded the end of the request to say "... after his detainment for rape allegations" as usage of "the rape allegations" felt out of place. —Sirdog (talk) 04:08, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Date format consistency across multiple articles

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Currently this article is using dmy date format, which was changed (with no contest apparently) in 2020 from the previous format of mdy that was set in 2016 by a now blocked sock master (Special:Diff/962496949). The article is now consistent on dmy dates.

There are two related article articles:

Which both are using mdy date format.

Personally, I think all three articles should use the same date format given that these are highly related, and it would be better for readers reading all of these articles to have a standardised format. Wikinav shows that there is a significant number of clickthroughs from this article here to the rape case article.

There are three options:

  1. standardise all to dmy format
    This effectively acknowledges the 2020 change, and change the date format on the two articles above
  2. standardise all to mdy format
    This effectively reverse the 2020 change.
  3. do nothing

I seek opinion from everyone who's interested. Thanks! – robertsky (talk) 04:32, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support changing this article back to MDY to be consistent with the closely related articles. There's not a rule that such consistency must happen, but it makes good WP:COMMONSENSE in a case like this of a trio of closely-related articles that readers are apt to skip back-and-forth between. That the artcle was changed to DMY without consensus and by a sock is a point in favor of the change back to MDY, though not a strong one, because a rather significant amount of time has passed after that change and WP:EDITCON is thus a consideration (and we don't just blindly undo everything ever done by someone who turned out to be a sock). But its prefectly reasonable for a consensus to come to a preference for MDY in this case, since either format used is kind of arbitrary for this subject, while consistency between the three articles is at least a minor benefit, at no cost to anyone other than a quick date conversion on one page.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:23, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Date format of article changed to MDY per this diff using script. JASWE (talk) 04:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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