Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bettina Rodriguez Aguilera

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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:34, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Bettina Rodriguez Aguilera

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Non-notable politician, fails WP:NPOL. Fhektii (talk) 12:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, and Florida. Shellwood (talk) 18:08, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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• Comment: Subject appears to have had a career far exceeding just politics, so not passing WP:NPOL alone is not a sufficient argument for deletion. Curbon7 (talk) 22:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

  Nominator has been CU blocked. Curbon7 (talk) 05:29, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 22:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
• Keep The WP:NPOL clearly dictates "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage" following are the links I have found so far which in my humble opinion, does not only fulfills WP:NPOL, but also fulfills WP:GNG and WP:GNP, as the subject is notable, and received significant coverage for "other reasons besides their political careers alone".

Following are the links, I could find. Ms.Aloisia (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/state/2017/10/16/she-claimed-tall-blond-aliens-kidnapped-her-child-now-she-s-running-congress/16290875007/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/20/she-claimed-aliens-kidnapped-her-child-major-newspaper-endorsed-her-bid-congress/

https://apnews.com/article/5adaacef468642c4930d1ad76ff09b69

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/florida-candidate-for-congress-said-she-was-abducted-by-aliens/attachment/bettina-rodriguez-aguilera-facebook/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-candidate-who-claims-she-was-abducted-by-aliens-doesnt-want-that-to-define-her/

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article178813586.html

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/21/florida-congressional-candidate-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera-aliens-vpx-es.cnn

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/403426-florida-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens-but-that-doesnt/

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/21/559143650/close-encounters-with-congress

https://thenewtropic.com/bettina-rodriguez-aguilera/

https://www.inverse.com/article/37501-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera-aliens-abduction-congress

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/10/congressional-candidate-believes-she-was-visited-by-aliens.html

https://www.thecut.com/2018/08/bettina-rodriguez-aguilar-flordia-more-than-just-an-alien-abductee.html

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami-herald-endorses-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera-who-claimed-alien-abduction-10647753

https://indianexpress.com/article/world/aliens-took-me-aboard-their-ship-at-age-seven-says-florida-congressional-candidate-4894267/

https://www.newsweek.com/aliens-abduction-miami-herald-republican-candidate-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera-1081360

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/25/republican-house-candidate-claims-she-was-abducted-by-aliens-wins-major-newspaper-endorsement/

https://movieweb.com/alien-invasion-ufo-miami-congress-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera/

https://www.cnet.com/science/congressional-candidate-says-she-was-abducted-by-aliens/

https://www.thespec.com/news/world/she-claimed-tall-blond-aliens-kidnapped-her-as-a-child-now-shes-running-for-congress/article_0a51405a-b4d4-55ea-94cf-c60f871775cb.html

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/florida-candidate-says-alien-abduction-doesnt-define-her-bettina-rodriguez-aguilar/172630/

https://gazette.com/she-claimed-tall-blond-aliens-kidnapped-her-as-a-child-now-shes-running-for-congress/article_2a6e1fd6-9078-5586-b504-39085a4e1c19.html

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-house-candidate-who-claims-she-was-abducted-by-aliens-endorsed-by-major-newspaper

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/miami-herald-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera_n_5b7c1500e4b05906b417862e

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/politics/florida-gop-candidate-says-alien-abduction-doesnt-define-her/530-72f20830-8349-487f-ae16-29dc4d5165f5

https://fox5sandiego.com/news/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens/

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/she-claimed-tall-blond-aliens-kidnapped-her-as-a-child-now-shes-running-for-congress-1763835

https://www.bustle.com/p/congressional-candidate-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera-claims-she-was-abducted-by-aliens-as-a-kid-10186243

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/republican-house-candidate-says-abducted-aliens-communicates-extraterrestrials-wins-big-endorsement-003318150.html

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/08/23/florida-candidate-says-alien-abduction-doesnt-define-her/

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2018/08/24/florida-candidate-for-congress-alien-abduction-doesnt-define-me/

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/florida-candidate-says-alien-abduction-doesnt-define-her

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/local/watercooler/2017/10/17/florida-candidate-congress-aliens-took-me-aboard-their-ship-age-7/772280001/

https://www.fox6now.com/news/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-30810135.html

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/10/17/Florida-candidate-says-she-was-visited-by-aliens-as-a-child/2761508214075/

https://www.wsls.com/news/weird-news/congressional-candidate-claims-shes-been-on-alien-spaceship/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/867454/Alien-abduction-politician-Republican-Bettina-Rodriguez-Aguilera-Mike-Pence-Miami-UFO

https://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2017/07/former-doral-council-member-may-run-for-ileana-ros-lehtinens-seat.html

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23931942-700-feedback-us-politician-claims-she-was-abducted-by-aliens/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aliens-spoke-to-me-claims-us-politician-mnlwscx0t

https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress

https://www.ouest-france.fr/monde/etats-unis/etats-unis-elle-affirme-avoir-ete-enlevee-par-des-extraterrestres-5324352

https://www.fox17online.com/2018/08/21/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens

https://www.wtvr.com/2018/08/20/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens

https://news.wgcu.org/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress

https://www.nydailynews.com/2017/10/16/congressional-candidate-claims-she-was-abducted-by-aliens-can-communicate-extraterrestrials/

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2017/10/16/florida-politician-who-saw-aliens/7128272007/

https://www.keranews.org/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress

https://www.politicalcortadito.com/2013/04/18/doral-recall-busts-whos-behind-brito/

https://rollcall.com/2017/10/16/florida-republican-who-once-claimed-alien-abduction-announces-house-bid/

https://www.wgbh.org/news/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress

https://www.local10.com/news/2017/10/16/south-florida-congressional-candidate-claims-shes-been-on-alien-spaceship/

https://myfox8.com/news/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens/

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/she-says-three-blond-aliens-took-her-aboard-their-ship-when-she-was-7-now-shes-running-for-u-s-congress

https://www.dallasnews.com/espanol/al-dia/espectaculos/2017/10/17/bettina-rodriguez-aguilera-candidata-de-florida-al-congreso-dice-que-extraterrestres-la-secuestraron/

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/florida-congressional-candidate-says-she-was-abducted-by-aliens-at-age-7/article_6113cb3d-4060-58a2-a5bf-bf8e13a5391f.html

https://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/2017/oct/17/miami-candidate-says-aliens-took-her-spaceship/

https://www.iowapublicradio.org/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress

Comment, and request for clarification. Let's look at WP:POL (cited above). It says (after I remove notes, etc):

The following are presumed to be notable:

• Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels.
• Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.

Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline.

She's not international, national, or state whatever. I don't see how she is or was a major figure in local politics. As I understand (or perhaps misunderstand) it, this person has never been elected to any position. (Was she elected as vice-mayor? The article isn't clear.) To judge from their URLs, the sources provide variants on "She says she was abducted by aliens, but she's running for office." Which I suppose is an unusual combination, even in Florida. Have I got this wrong? -- Hoary (talk) 00:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

There is no need for a politician to be a major figure to be notable; that merely blocks automatic notability. There is also no need for anything to be unusual, because the relevant notability guideline is based only on independence and depth of sources, not on whether what they say about the subject includes any accomplishment or unusual feat. What needs to be addressed (and what other comments pro and con have addressed) is the question of whether the many sources listed above are reliable, independent of each other, and provide significant depth of coverage about the subject. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete per SUSTAINED/BLP1E. Coverage is essentially restricted to sensational human-interest news on the intersection of her claims of alien abduction and her running for congress. JoelleJay (talk) 05:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

• Weak delete, mostly per WP:BLP1E as per JoelleJay as above. We have lots of stories but only about one thing, her run for congress as someone who claims to have been abducted by aliens. I don't think her academic work rises to the level of a second thing that can save this from being about only that one thing. I did find one local news story about a different thing: her misuse of a local government website in 2013 to promote her business [1]. I don't think that's quite enough. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:45, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
• Procedural Comment This is one of a series of deletions started by a brand new account that has now been blocked as a sockpuppet. See [2]. Not sure if a procedural close is in order. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:11, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

  WP:G5 doesn't apply as checkuser hasn't connected them to any master yet. 84.146.2.66 (talk) 11:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

  G5 is irrelevant as I have mentioned elsewhere. That is a speedy deletion reason which is pretty much the opposite of what I suggested. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

  That IP address looks like a duck wearing socks anyways. SportingFlyer T·C 14:30, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete This was nominated by a sock, but if it's procedurally closed, I'd immediately re-start a new AfD. This is a back-door article about a political candidate who falls under WP:BLP1E - notable only for being a candidate, albeit one who claims she got kidnapped by aliens as a child, which also possibly invokes FRINGE. Not a single article presented above talks about her outside of the context of aliens. The article is also written a bit like a CV in prose which gets me thinking of PROMO. It's a clear delete from me. SportingFlyer T·C 10:27, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 19:34, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
• Admin comment unlike the others, in favor of letting this one run as there's substantive input in favor of deletion from established editors. No issue if another admin feels differently. Star Mississippi 02:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete despite the record-breaking puffery in this AfD. Xxanthippe (talk) 08:55, 12 March 2024 (UTC).

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