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I have sent email to thewestlord@yahoo.com, which is the email address on the page from which this came, asking whether they're the ones who posted it and release their copyright, or whether we need to remove it. So I'm letting this sit for a moment... [[User:Elf|Elf]] | [[User talk:Elf|Talk]] 03:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC) |
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:OK, when I asked about whether OK to use under GFDL or PD, got this response: |
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see above. [[User:Elf|Elf]] | [[User talk:Elf|Talk]] 00:47, 20 August 2005 (UTC) |
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== Merge discussion: Abruzzese mastiff == |
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{{Discussion top|result=The result of this discussion was '''merge'''. [[User:Cavalryman|Cavalryman]] ([[User talk:Cavalryman|talk]]) 01:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC)}} |
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I've suggested merging [[Abruzzese Mastiff]] here. While I respect and indeed partially agree with the arguments of the separatists who resent the fusion of the Maremmano and Abruzzese strains, the fact remains that they have been a single breed since 1958, the Cane da pastore Maremmano-Abruzzese. The "Mastino Abruzzese" is now just another name for the same dog. There is no breed of that name, and no dog can be registered as such. The article already has considerable discussion of these matters, but that could possibly still be further expanded. [[User:Justlettersandnumbers|Justlettersandnumbers]] ([[User talk:Justlettersandnumbers|talk]]) 20:30, 29 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:'''Support'''. I wonder if we could generate some conversation on this proposal before it rots too much more.--'''[[User:Tikuko|<span style="color:black;">T</span><span style="color:orange;">K</span><span style="color:gray;">K</span>]]''' [[User talk:Tikuko|<sup><small>bark</small> <i><big>!</big></i></sup>]] 12:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC) |
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* '''Post bold merger support'''. {{u|Justlettersandnumbers}} & {{u|Tikuko}}, have just boldly merged these articles I have stumbled upon this old merger discussion, the merge has been completed. Kind regards, [[User:Cavalryman|Cavalryman]] ([[User talk:Cavalryman|talk]]) 01:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC). |
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== Requested move 14 May 2020 == |
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[[:Maremma Sheepdog]] → {{no redirect|Maremmano-Abruzzese Sheepdog}} – Nearly every source used in the article uses this or the Italian ''Cane da pastore Maremmano-Abruzzese'' as the breed’s name, some then list the current name as an alternate name. [[User:Cavalryman|Cavalryman]] ([[User talk:Cavalryman|talk]]) 01:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC) |
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* '''Support'''. This is going to be a difficult one. There are many WP:RELIABLE WP:SECONDARY references to both the "Maremma sheepdog" and to the "Maremmano-Abruzzese Sheepdog", so arguing WP:COMMONAME will get us nowhere. However, we are dealing with a dog that is found in TWO provinces of Italy, in the [[Maremma]] region of [[Tuscany]], and in [[Abruzzo]]. The FCI name is the "Maremma and the Abruzzes Sheepdog". Therefore, I am going with WP:PRECISION. '''[[User:William Harris|<span style="color: dimgray">William Harris</span>]][[File:Canis lupis track.svg|17px]][[User talk:William Harris|<span style="color: dimgray">talk</span>]][[File:Canis lupis track.svg|17px]]''' 10:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC) |
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Merge discussion: Abruzzese mastiff
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- The result of this discussion was merge. Cavalryman (talk) 01:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I've suggested merging Abruzzese Mastiff here. While I respect and indeed partially agree with the arguments of the separatists who resent the fusion of the Maremmano and Abruzzese strains, the fact remains that they have been a single breed since 1958, the Cane da pastore Maremmano-Abruzzese. The "Mastino Abruzzese" is now just another name for the same dog. There is no breed of that name, and no dog can be registered as such. The article already has considerable discussion of these matters, but that could possibly still be further expanded. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:30, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- Support. I wonder if we could generate some conversation on this proposal before it rots too much more.--TKK bark ! 12:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- Post bold merger support. Justlettersandnumbers & Tikuko, have just boldly merged these articles I have stumbled upon this old merger discussion, the merge has been completed. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 01:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC).
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Requested move 14 May 2020
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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) buidhe 03:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Maremma Sheepdog → Maremmano-Abruzzese Sheepdog – Nearly every source used in the article uses this or the Italian Cane da pastore Maremmano-Abruzzese as the breed’s name, some then list the current name as an alternate name. Cavalryman (talk) 01:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support. This is going to be a difficult one. There are many WP:RELIABLE WP:SECONDARY references to both the "Maremma sheepdog" and to the "Maremmano-Abruzzese Sheepdog", so arguing WP:COMMONAME will get us nowhere. However, we are dealing with a dog that is found in TWO provinces of Italy, in the Maremma region of Tuscany, and in Abruzzo. The FCI name is the "Maremma and the Abruzzes Sheepdog". Therefore, I am going with WP:PRECISION. William Harristalk 10:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.