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The result was '''delete'''__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 02:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC) |
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Article about a band, not [[WP:RS|properly sourced]] as passing [[WP:NMUSIC]]. The only real notability claim in evidence here is that the music exists, which isn't automatically enough in the absence of sufficient reliable source coverage ''about'' them and their music to pass [[WP:GNG]] -- but four of the seven footnotes here are [[WP:PRIMARYSOURCES|primary sources]] that are not support for notability at all, such as their own promotional materials on the self-published website of their own record label, a Tumblr post and a Q&A interview in which a band member is talking about himself in the first person -- and what's left for reliable sources is very short blurbs, not substantive enough to add up to a GNG pass if they're ''all'' the third party coverage this band has.<br>Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt them from having to have better sourcing than this, especially since the article has been tagged for notability questions since 2012 without significant improvement. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 16:25, 16 February 2024 (UTC) |
Article about a band, not [[WP:RS|properly sourced]] as passing [[WP:NMUSIC]]. The only real notability claim in evidence here is that the music exists, which isn't automatically enough in the absence of sufficient reliable source coverage ''about'' them and their music to pass [[WP:GNG]] -- but four of the seven footnotes here are [[WP:PRIMARYSOURCES|primary sources]] that are not support for notability at all, such as their own promotional materials on the self-published website of their own record label, a Tumblr post and a Q&A interview in which a band member is talking about himself in the first person -- and what's left for reliable sources is very short blurbs, not substantive enough to add up to a GNG pass if they're ''all'' the third party coverage this band has.<br>Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt them from having to have better sourcing than this, especially since the article has been tagged for notability questions since 2012 without significant improvement. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 16:25, 16 February 2024 (UTC) |
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*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Minnesota|list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 16:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</small> |
*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Minnesota|list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 16:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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*I'm not addressing any of the content since 2012, but the version of the page that stood for half a decade before that, [[Special:Permalink/130728486]], definitely seems acceptable and not deletion-worthy. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 13:20, 17 February 2024 (UTC) |
*I'm not addressing any of the content since 2012, but the version of the page that stood for half a decade before that, [[Special:Permalink/130728486]], definitely seems acceptable and not deletion-worthy. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 13:20, 17 February 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Yes it should be returned to being a redirect per [[WP:PLURAL]] if there is a consensus this should be deleted and if desired the edit history of the band deleted but if there is a consensus this should be kept or a lack of consensus it should be moved to [[Shores (band)]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 20:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC) |
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'''Weak Keep''', This is properly sourced now, and I tend to er on the side of retention, but I really don't know much about them. I tagged it as a stub. I suggest giving editors a chance to see if more support for notability exists.--[[User:Panther999|Panther999]] ([[User talk:Panther999|talk]]) 20:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC) |
'''Weak Keep''', This is properly sourced now, and I tend to er on the side of retention, but I really don't know much about them. I tagged it as a stub. I suggest giving editors a chance to see if more support for notability exists.--[[User:Panther999|Panther999]] ([[User talk:Panther999|talk]]) 20:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete''': Sources 2 and 7 are RS. 2 is a video, 7 seems to link to a 404 page, rest is trivial coverage. I can't find anything else. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 00:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC) <!--VCB Oaktree b--> |
* '''Delete''': Sources 2 and 7 are RS. 2 is a video, 7 seems to link to a 404 page, rest is trivial coverage. I can't find anything else. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 00:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC) <!--VCB Oaktree b--> |
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*:I've fixed the link on 7. But I tend to agree that it doesn't look like it qualifies for notability.— [[User:Moriwen|Moriwen]] ([[User talk:Moriwen|talk]]) 02:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC) |
*:I've fixed the link on 7. But I tend to agree that it doesn't look like it qualifies for notability.— [[User:Moriwen|Moriwen]] ([[User talk:Moriwen|talk]]) 02:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. This is some ip editor's vanity project (created inside a redirect) and I agree the sourcing is inadequate. [[No Idea Records]] seems to contain a list of similar bands, if a redirect is preferred. [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD|talk]]) 12:58, 14 March 2024 (UTC) |
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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Article about a band, not properly sourced as passing WP:NMUSIC. The only real notability claim in evidence here is that the music exists, which isn't automatically enough in the absence of sufficient reliable source coverage about them and their music to pass WP:GNG -- but four of the seven footnotes here are primary sources that are not support for notability at all, such as their own promotional materials on the self-published website of their own record label, a Tumblr post and a Q&A interview in which a band member is talking about himself in the first person -- and what's left for reliable sources is very short blurbs, not substantive enough to add up to a GNG pass if they're all the third party coverage this band has.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt them from having to have better sourcing than this, especially since the article has been tagged for notability questions since 2012 without significant improvement. Bearcat (talk) 16:25, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Michigan. Bearcat (talk) 16:25, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 16:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not addressing any of the content since 2012, but the version of the page that stood for half a decade before that, Special:Permalink/130728486, definitely seems acceptable and not deletion-worthy. Uncle G (talk) 13:20, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it should be returned to being a redirect per WP:PLURAL if there is a consensus this should be deleted and if desired the edit history of the band deleted but if there is a consensus this should be kept or a lack of consensus it should be moved to Shores (band). Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Weak Keep, This is properly sourced now, and I tend to er on the side of retention, but I really don't know much about them. I tagged it as a stub. I suggest giving editors a chance to see if more support for notability exists.--Panther999 (talk) 20:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 23:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:11, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Sources 2 and 7 are RS. 2 is a video, 7 seems to link to a 404 page, rest is trivial coverage. I can't find anything else. Oaktree b (talk) 00:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've fixed the link on 7. But I tend to agree that it doesn't look like it qualifies for notability.— Moriwen (talk) 02:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Is there support for Redirection and, if so, what would be the target article?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:38, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. This is some ip editor's vanity project (created inside a redirect) and I agree the sourcing is inadequate. No Idea Records seems to contain a list of similar bands, if a redirect is preferred. BusterD (talk) 12:58, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.