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STOP REMOVING CONTENT FROM THIS PAGE!!!! I'm tired of having to put back previous comments that keep being removed!!! ''[[User:Udonknome|Do you know me?]]'''''[[User_talk:Udonknome|...then SHUT UP!!!]]''' <sub>[[User:Udonknome/My signature...|Sarcasm is beauty]]</sub> 23:11, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


=Comments that have been removed in the past=


==Talk page==
The Palazzi's statement are self-written by himself, he's a well known troll on italian web. He's simply a pretender, who pretends to be muslim while he plays with israelian's right to build fakes and throw rubbish on muslims. He cooperates both with ADL and with italian neofascist (his politic background) I think (and many peolpe with me), his presence on Wikipedia is just a commercial of his own, and I have the evidences and the straight knowledge that most of it's written is not NPOV, but an absolute lie.


I have blanked this talk page, as it violated our [[WP:BLP|Biographies of Living People]] policy in numerous places. I strongly suggest everyone takes great care in making comments about living people on Wikipedia, whether you have an account here or not. [[User:Neil|<u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#600">Neıl</u>]] [[User_talk:Neil|<u style="text-decoration:none;color:#226"><B>龱</B></u>]] 11:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
If you do not believe me, you can easily check the comments of dozens of people to his appearences in italy-indymedia thru this link


==Perceived lack of balance==
http://italy.indymedia.org/news/?keyword=maulana&author=&display=&year=&month=&day=&medium=&language_id=&category=0&sort=&limit=200
In copyediting this page, and expanding ref links to show their sources, I noticed that the citations and other links are almost invariably to pro-Israeli sources (some of which I removed on account of unreliability and/or overt partisanship). Since the subject is highly controversial by nature, I am flagging the article as NPOV in the hope that interested editors can add some balance to it, or at least give further consideration to the issues. [[User:Bjenks|Bjenks]] ([[User talk:Bjenks|talk]]) 05:34, 16 October 2014 (UTC)


==This person is a scam==
He's cheating you as he has done his whole life with everibody
I'm italian (from Rome, where this funny story is widely known) and I can tell you that the person in this article is a fraud, he was never an imam and is not or has never been a muslim. He was also faking to be president, secretary general of many invented italian muslim associations (also real ones, but he just faked to be part of them and letters of injunction were sent to him). In fact, he is not only right wing, but he recently "converted" to hinduism, as you can see in his [https://www.facebook.com/shankar.satyaprakashnath.baba facebook page].
He also wrote recently: "Chiudere le moschee ed espellere gli islamici dall'Europa: unica soluzione per vincere questa guerra! Marine, sei sempre una grande, Vladimir aiutaci tu!" (close all the mosques and expell muslims from Europe: the only solution to win this war!)
His story is quite funny anyway, he managed to scam a lot of important journals which only wanted to write something pro-israeli without caring about their sources.
I'll give a few sources (mainly in italian):


[https://mazzetta.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/il-leader-dellislam-moderato-italiano-si-e-convertito/ Link1]
[http://www.kelebekler.com/occ/eno.htm Link2]
[http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/11/muslim-zionist-abdul-hadi-palazzi-now-hindu/ Link3 (english)] <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/93.49.219.43|93.49.219.43]] ([[User talk:93.49.219.43|talk]]) 19:12, 16 November 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== External links modified ==
Palazzi is NOT secretary-general of the Italian Muslim Assembly, imam at the Shafi School of Islamic Jurisprudence with a doctorate in Islamic sciences from the Institute for Islamic Studies and Research in Naples (by authorization of the former Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia), and ijazzah (authorization to teach) both Koranic exegesis and Islamic law from the prestigious University of al-Azhar as-Sharif in Cairo.


Hello fellow Wikipedians,
== Fraud? ==
According to this seemingly well-documented site [http://amipalazzi.ifrance.com/index.html], Palazzi is basically a fringe figure who grossly misrepresents himself to non-Italians.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 09:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


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This is all obviously fake, Massimo Palazzi (his real name) never attended any university
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according to Dacia Valent, ex in European Parliament, Abdul Palazzi has been charged on pedophilia and banned from enterig coranic schols. You're hosting himself and allowing him to go forward his career of frauds and abuses


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In un commento al blog Salamelik (http://salamelik.blogspot.com/), Dacia Valent (che a differenza di Palazzi si firma con nome e cognome) ci rivela un particolare assai piccante:

"Traversi, Palazzi ha dormito nel mio ufficio per circa due settimane, prima che scoprissi i veri motivi per i quali la polizia era andato a prelevarlo a casa, su denuncia della moglie, corroborata anche da quella di altre madri.

Tutto posso ammettere, come soluzione ad un dilemma sociale, ma il vizio, soprattutto quando fa male ai più indifesi, no.

Francamente sono stanca di questo essere disgustoso, mi fa pena perché è molto malato (non parlo di tare mentali, anche se ne è pieno ma proprio di malattia fisica), e di solito i panni sporchi li lavo a casa.

Ma nel caso di questo sedicente musulmano - interdetto dalla frequentazione non solo di bambini nelle scuole coraniche, come stabilito da una circolare che para piuttosto chiaramente, ma anche dalla ferquentazione del proprio figlio, richiesta ed ottenta con sentenza del tribunale civile di Roma dalla ex moglie (che lui sostiene di aver denunciato) - tacere sarebbe un danno per altre persone.

Dacia Valent"

== Convert? ==

Was Palazzi born Muslim or is he a native Italian who converted to Islam? )
If he was born Muslim, then what's his origin? [[User:88.153.2.250|88.153.2.250]] 17:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

: palzzi is not born muslim, nor he has nevere attended any universiti, there's no University in Velletri, for example, as his association has been denounced by muslim associations in Italy as non-existend, he's been forced by trail to dismiss the false statement he represents italian muslims {{unsigned|137.204.238.121}}

:: Removing someone else's comments from Talk pages (as you did [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAbdul_Hadi_Palazzi&diff=50587491&oldid=49632272]) is diruptive. Don't do that.
:: On the topic, I have added a reference for the university. The rest of your "editing" is equally bad: "miserable social climber", "wowing at Bush's politics", "one of the funniest character of italian underground politics", "a horrible guy". Don't expect to be able to use WP as a platform for slander. ←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]] <sup>[[User talk:Humus sapiens|ну?]]</sup> 21:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

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Two vicepresidents of Palazzi's AMI have been charged about fraud and easing prostitution and convicted in the scandal that has brought to prison also Vittorio Emanuele di Savoia, son of the former Italian King. This wikipedia's voice is a mean of continuing the frauds formerly higlighted
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== Unitre in Velletri ==

The "University" in Velletri, that is linked as [http://www.unitre.net/italia/regioni/lazio.html UniTre], is not the third roman statal university ([http://www.uniroma3.it/ Uniroma 3]) and it is not a real university, but a private "club" whose activities consists in conferences and courses for aged people. It is a good and respected thing, but if you teach there you are not a university professor and you can't have as student a legal title as when you finisch a real university. Sorry for my english

== Moved to talk ==

''Many Israeli [[projects working for peace among Israelis and Arabs|peace activists]] feel that, out of a desire to oppose the fanaticism of other Muslims, Shaykh Palazzi has "overcompensated" and came to embrace many positions of the Israeli extreme-right.'' - is there a [[WP:RS|reputable source]] for this? Thanks. ←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]] <sup>[[User talk:Humus sapiens|ну?]]</sup> 21:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism of talk page ==

To whoever keeps vandalizing this talk page: You have every right to respond to other people's comments. You do not, however, have a right to alter and delete comments by others. If you continue this disruptive behavior, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 03:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Some comments are removed since they contain gratuitous slanders, and some other even penal offences. All this is contrary to the policy.--''comment by anonymous person who keeps deleting comments by other people''

:I have now semi-protected this talk page to prevent further mutilation. If you register an account, you will still be free to respond to other people's comments when your account has matured in four days (but not to erase them). The policy is to allow free discussion, not to delete anything that you disagree with. Thank you.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 15:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


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== Illegal contents are removed ==

And so are comments in languages different from English


Why, what language do you speak smart panties? You can't even spell man!! [[Special:Contributions/78.86.151.240|78.86.151.240]] ([[User talk:78.86.151.240|talk]]) 03:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== Convert? ==

Sheikh Palazzi is not a convert but a born Muslim.
:completely, 100% untrue. [[User:Udonknome|Udonknome]] ([[User talk:Udonknome|talk]]) 01:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


More like born Zionist!

Long live Palestine!

[[Special:Contributions/78.86.151.240|78.86.151.240]] ([[User talk:78.86.151.240|talk]]) 03:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== Unitre in Velletri ==

Sheikh Palazzi was teaching history of religion at the University of Velletri, [http://www.unitre.net/italia/regioni/lazio.html UniTre] in 1996.
:once again, a lie. he didn't even get a degree from the school, how could've he had taught as professor? [[User:Udonknome|Udonknome]] ([[User talk:Udonknome|talk]])

Can only feel sorry for his students! What a waste of time. [[Special:Contributions/78.86.151.240|78.86.151.240]] ([[User talk:78.86.151.240|talk]]) 03:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== Moved to talk ==

''Out of a desire to oppose the fanaticism of other Muslims, Sheikh Palazzi has spared no effort to promote Jewish-Muslim dialogue in Italy, the U.S. and Israel

== Vandalism of talk page ==

To whoever what to publish illegal and defamatory contents must be informed that they will be removed, and he can be sued to court.

Nothing more than a wannabe Mulla. I told you before, this the leaning Mula of Italy. An infidel claiming Islam, just like Musaylama Al Kathab, etc... We have experienced many fake Mulla', he is not the first or the last!

This infidel promotes dialogue at the expense of the Palestinian people?! He is nothing but a Zionist mouth piece, and conveniently following and repeating the American-Israeli rhetoric like a parrot for a few dollars and smiles from his masters. Palazzi, you are an ignorant coward, a self styled 'Sheikh', a liar and promote only one thing, yourself.

Long live Palestine. [[Special:Contributions/78.86.151.240|78.86.151.240]] ([[User talk:78.86.151.240|talk]]) 03:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


Ok seriously people. Apparently many of you people don't have a clue regarding what vandalism is or not and the contents of a discussion page. Something you simply do not agree with is clearly NOT vandalism. If something is added to the article without citation, it may be discussed in a talk page like this one. For a better knowledge and better use as editors of Wikipedia, please see the [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|5 Pillars]], [[Wikipedia:Vandalism]], and [[Wikipedia:Talk page]]. Thanks. [[User:Udonknome|Udonknome]] ([[User talk:Udonknome|talk]]) 02:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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I have blanked this talk page, as it violated our Biographies of Living People policy in numerous places. I strongly suggest everyone takes great care in making comments about living people on Wikipedia, whether you have an account here or not. Neıl 11:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perceived lack of balance

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In copyediting this page, and expanding ref links to show their sources, I noticed that the citations and other links are almost invariably to pro-Israeli sources (some of which I removed on account of unreliability and/or overt partisanship). Since the subject is highly controversial by nature, I am flagging the article as NPOV in the hope that interested editors can add some balance to it, or at least give further consideration to the issues. Bjenks (talk) 05:34, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This person is a scam

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I'm italian (from Rome, where this funny story is widely known) and I can tell you that the person in this article is a fraud, he was never an imam and is not or has never been a muslim. He was also faking to be president, secretary general of many invented italian muslim associations (also real ones, but he just faked to be part of them and letters of injunction were sent to him). In fact, he is not only right wing, but he recently "converted" to hinduism, as you can see in his facebook page. He also wrote recently: "Chiudere le moschee ed espellere gli islamici dall'Europa: unica soluzione per vincere questa guerra! Marine, sei sempre una grande, Vladimir aiutaci tu!" (close all the mosques and expell muslims from Europe: the only solution to win this war!) His story is quite funny anyway, he managed to scam a lot of important journals which only wanted to write something pro-israeli without caring about their sources. I'll give a few sources (mainly in italian):

Link1 Link2 Link3 (english) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.49.219.43 (talk) 19:12, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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