Talk:Roddy McCorley

Family Connection to Roger McCorley

"McCorley's family continued the republican tradition and his grandson, Roger McCorley was a senior figure in the Belfast Irish Republican Army during the Irish War of Independence of 1919-1922."

I find this very hard to believe as there are 120 years between the 1799 and 1919. This would mean that Roddy McCorley's son would have either had his son very late, when he was very old and that his son was a fairly old man when he was fighting in the war of independence. The gap is just too long. They may be related but I think it most likely that if Roddy McCorley was his ancestor that he most probably was a great grandfather. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EoinBach (talk • contribs) 09:34, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Irish form of name

I have removed the Rodaí Mhic Corley form as this is just the genitive form in Irish and would not be used for citation purposes. Any Irish name with Mac would, in the genitive, be 'Mhic' so Mac Néill (McNeil) would be Mhic Néill etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EoinBach (talk • contribs) 09:34, 20 September 2008

Date of Death

I think that the date give for his death is actually based on the ballad, which was based on the idea of Good Friday. My understanding is that we don't actually have any recorded sources stating the actual date of death other than the year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EoinBach (talk • contribs) 09:34, 20 September 2008

Burial

His body was disinterred by his nephew who had it buried in the Anglican churchyard where the McCorley's buried their dead, it was marked however the grave was vandalised a number of times by pro-union elements and eventually the gravestone was lost as was knowledge of the exact where abouts of the grave. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EoinBach (talk • contribs) 09:34, 20 September 2008

Disected or dismembered

I'm going to revert the recent change to 'dismembered' as I don't know whether it is correct or not - however I do know that they didn't normally dismember a body when they had executed the person (unless hung, drawn and quartered of course) however disection was allowed as a part of the punishment - and bodies would often be handed over to local surgeons for them to practice their skills on, so for example the Murder Act 1752 allowed for the bodies of murderers to be disected see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disection. As this was obviously the practice then it may actually be correct that he was disected and so yes, it was a science project! (at least for the physicians who did it, if they did). If anyone has any other information on this point, and facts as to what actually happened in this case, please could you add them here.EoinBach (talk) 13:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Poem Vs Lyrics

I have replaced the lyrics to the song "Roddy McCorley" as they have been sung since about 1960 with Carbery's original poem. One reason for doing so is that the 4-verse version typically sung today and recorded by the folk groups of the 1960s (a version which rearranges parts of some of the stanzas and creates a different poem, in effect) is under copyright to the late Pat Clancy and his heirs; including it here is CopyVio. More significantly, I think - and I am a huge fan of the four verse song and have performed it for nearly fifty years - is that Carbery's original is broader in its perspective and more interested in establishing McCorley's significance in the wider context of the 1798 rising and Irish patriotism in general. This is more in keeping with the content of the article than the abridged song lyrics. Sensei48 (talk) 06:45, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Corrected Date of Death

The opening section listed his death as being 22 March, 1799 while the article later states that he was executed on 28 February, 1800. Been doing a bit of reading about Roddy McCorley, a Northern Irish newspaper reported his death the Monday after his execution in 1800. Have changed the article accordingly. Will return with a link when I find it again. Teblyn (talk) 19:21, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Carbery's poem

I have moved a comment made by user:69.141.156.148 concerning the verse of Carbery's poem: Last Verse first two lines are incorrect: Because he loved the Mother Land, Because he loved the green, He goes to meet the martyr's fate with proud and joyous mein; I have did a bit of goggling and these references support the claim [1] [2]. So unless someone can show something different it will be changed. Bjmullan (talk) 19:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Let me guess: You mean the word "mien" (not "mein") and "googling" (not "goggling"). Right?128.120.234.44 (talk) 00:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

English?

"Following the publication of the Ethna Carbery poem bearing his name in 1902, where he is associated with events around the Battle of Antrim, he is alleged to have been a member of the United Irishmen and claimed as a participant in their rebellion of 1798."

How would this read if it were in English?128.120.234.44 (talk) 00:47, 16 December 2020 (UTC)